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    Backup cache only share to another share on array

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    On 1/6/2023 at 9:07 AM, dopeytree said:

    Would you be better just backing up the whole cache disk?

    That way it would cover any new shares + also backup any new folders before moving to array for other shares etc.

    While I know what is basically what mirroring does there is a big performance hit using mirror for some reason.

     

    Wouldn't that inadvertently pick up files meant for the mover as well?

    Replacing two drives - Please verify my procedure

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    I want to replace an 8TB parity disk with a 10TB disk. (That's straightforward enough, remove / replace, let it rebuild)

     

    But: I want to re-use the 8TB old parity disk to replace a 4TB drive.  

    When I plug it in, will un-raid re-recognize it as the old parity disk?  Will it (hopefully) prompt me to re-format it and re-use it?

    Or ... is there another procedure I'm missing here.

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Cannot spin drives down

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    49 minutes ago, JonathanM said:

    Parity is NOT a backup.

    Agreed, and a poor choice of words on my part.  

     

    What I mean is that the parity makes it a lot easier to replace if the single drive goes down.  (Rebuild).  I have other backup solutions in place for critical data.  (Including an older QNAP server that mirrors many critical files thru RSYNC).  

     

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    Cannot spin drives down

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    I think I may have solved this.  

     

    I had the spin down time at 2 hours.  My Time Machine backup on my work MBP was hourly.  I've lowered the spin down time to 15 minutes.  It seems OK for the moment.  (I also cleaned up the AppData mess).  Also: Turned turbo-writes off for the moment.  I may turn that back on, but I'm doing this one step at a time.


    Currently my doctor is on disk1, and my thinking at the time was then it is backed up on the parity disk.  Wondering if I should move that to the cache disk and Implement a separate backup for that?  (Any thoughts?)

     

    Thank you all !!

    Cannot spin drives down

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    7 hours ago, itimpi said:

    I notice that the ‘appdata’ share has files all over the array drives despite it being set to Use Cache=Only.   With that setting mover will ignore the files on the array - you need Prefer (with Docker service disabled when running mover) to get them onto the cache.   If any still do not move they may be duplicates of files already on the cache as mover will also not move duplicates - they need deleting manually.   Whether that is a cause of your issue I have no idea but it makes sense to tidy that up anyway.

    Yeah, that's been bugging me for a while.  I'm not sure how they got that way, and mover doesn't touch them.  That's on my list of things to look at.  It appears that *most* of the appdata stuff is old and long since deprecated, but I want to take a methodical approach to deleting it so I don't accidentally shoot myself in the foot.

     

    Good catch though, I appreciate it.

     

    I'm going to resolve this.  It's become a quest at this point. 

     

    Cannot spin drives down

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    8 hours ago, SimonF said:

    Where is the location of your dockers, can you look at the system share to see where dockers images are located? Do you have turbo writes enabled?

     

    The docker image is located at /mnt/disk1/docker.img

    I can probably move it to the cache drive.  But that's still just a single disk.

    Turbo writes are in fact enabled.

     

    Cannot spin drives down

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    On 3/24/2023 at 4:31 AM, JorgeB said:

    Actually after my last post I tried that and for some reason drives don't stay spun down in maintenance mode, instead boot in safe mode, disable VM and docker services and try again after that.

    OK, I shut down all VMs (Normally not running anyway).  I shut down ALL dockers.  Same issue.  

    What else can I shut down?  

     

    Cannot spin drives down

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    I did find this in the log, whenever I do a spin down:

    What is the read SMART after each spin down attempt?  

     

    Mar 23 13:37:28 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf

    Mar 23 13:37:32 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf

    Mar 23 13:37:36 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdj

    Mar 23 13:37:39 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdj

    Mar 23 13:37:41 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdi

    Mar 23 13:37:41 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh

    Mar 23 13:37:42 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh

    Mar 23 13:37:44 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdi

    Mar 23 13:37:49 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg

    Mar 23 13:37:50 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg

    Mar 23 13:37:53 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf

    Mar 23 13:37:54 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf

    Mar 23 13:37:56 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdd

    Mar 23 13:37:59 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc

    Mar 23 13:38:01 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd

    Mar 23 13:38:01 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc

    Mar 23 13:38:22 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf

    Mar 23 13:38:26 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf

    Mar 23 13:38:31 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh

    Mar 23 13:38:32 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh

    Mar 23 13:38:39 Elsa  emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdi

    Mar 23 13:38:40 Elsa  emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdi

    Cannot spin drives down

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    Posted

    Just now, JorgeB said:

    Nothing obvious, to confirm there's nothing external accessing the disks start the array in maintenance mode and see if they stay down.

     

    I'll give that a try and post the results. 

    I'm not sure when this started, but it had to be fairly recently.  (I'd have noticed at some point).  Not the end of the world, but my drives have plenty of hours on them, would prefer to make them last a bit longer, and save a bit of power.  (It's one of the main points of Unraid, right?)

     

    Just odd that I can't even manually spin any of them down.  

     

    ... more soon.

    Cannot spin drives down

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    I've noticed recently that all of my drives are *always* spun up.  

    I can't seem to find a setting that prevents them from shutting down.  

     

    Making matters worse, when I manually try and spin them down, they stay spun up.  No obvious errors in the log.  (So I literally cannot spin them down by any means).

     

    Any thoughts?  Any more information or logs that I need to upload?

     

    Mac Issues with UnRAID

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    Posted · Edited by Ellis34771

    Seems better, but still really slow on folders with 1,000 to 5,000 files.  I'll keep reading those links.  

     

    Has anyone tried NFS mounts?  (I've never gotten them to work).  If so, is the performance better?

     

     

    UPDATE:  THE vfs objects line was the magic sauce.  (I had a typo in that, once that was in there, bam)

    I'm thrilled!  THANK YOU.

     

    Mac Issues with UnRAID

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    Having several issues with UnRAID on MacOS (Monterey)

     

    1. VERY slow access times, even to read large directories.  I run a Windows VM on the same hardware, and it's not even a close contest.  At times accessing files and directories from the Mac Finder is almost unusable.

     

    2. Sometimes shares cannot be accessed at all.  I create a directory, and then I try to copy a file to it, and it says no permissions.  Or, I'll save some files from an App (such as Photos) to that same directory, but Finder won't open it. (Red dot). Meanwhile, using the same UI/PW under Windows VM works just fine.

     

    I typically connect to UnRAID over SMB.  

     

    How do I start to fix this?  (Am I the only one with these issues?)

     

    How Many Servers Are You Running?

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    I have two.  

    One Unraid, One older 4 bay QNAP.  

     

    I originally built the Unraid when my QNAP went down and I had to wait 6 weeks for the company to repair it with proprietary parts.  Now the QNAP is a lite-backup server, but it does have some great internet facing tools.  As such, I mapped some shares from the QNAP over to my Unraid box and I use the QNAP as a "gateway" to get to my Unraid files remotely.  

     

     

    Finding those drives

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    58 minutes ago, Squid said:

    Set the array to not autostart (Settings - Disk Settings), then unplug on, turn on the machine.  It'll tell you which one is missing.  Repeat until you've got it.  Then you can start the array.

     

    But, if you can make out the serial numbers then you're rocking -> I always stick a label on the back (or front) of the drive that has the last 4 digits to make identification easy

     

    Brilliant !!  Huge time-saver.  Once my current drive rebuilds, I'll do that next. 

     

    The serial numbers ...   is that the extended string on the drive list on the dashboard?  I need to pull the drives to see what info is on the labels.  
    Yeah, this is a position I won't find myself in again.  #FAIL

     

    A huge thank you to you!