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Nevermind delete this I'm a idiot. I forgot I needed to fill in the array slots first then I can select the type of ZFS Pool. I'm too much of a windows guy where in windows you can almost allways screw up things because the make a bunch of selections work. Much like putting the cart in front of the horse.

I'm trying to setup a ZFS data pool and I only get the option for mirror. I use to get the option for raidZ1 or many other options. Why did these options get removed. in 6.12.13? I think I could do this in 6.12.8 or .10

Not sure I can agree to that statement. the reason the drive dropped is very relevant. Because it goes back to what I was talking about. you could be facing hardware compatibly and sata supported chipsets. And like if its dropping and coming back online say in a different interface. like its in sdg and comes back up say in sdi or something to that effect. Then you might be able to get someone to help write a script to force certain serial #'s to always come back in the same interface. I think they try to do this in default already. But for some reason maybe its not able to etc.. But if your seeing issues like this and your looking for a work around so you can do support for yourself/ other customer while your in the Air. To me it sounds like you have something else you might need to work on instead of giving you more time to address some drive issues. I just haven't experienced the kind of case your presenting. The case just feels really odd and seams like you have something else going on. I've done a lot of self hardware testing and building with a lot of strange old parts etc. I feel like what you have described sounds like a Sata Multiplexer interface is used and unraid OS is not bringing the drive back after maybe it went into a sleep mode or something. To me if I saw what you had happen I world be looking at my hardware and looking there and the logs to find something. something I found recently for my self. I've learned that HBA cables and fan noise actually can cause some drive events and smart errors. I've actually had to like do really good cable management recently to fix some of it. As well and replace some HBA cables. ignore all that I'm just talking about me sorry about that.

Yeah those are some good points. strange that your having drives fall offline. I'm guessing you have the power management settings really setup to turn down spin drives and they must not all spin up and run until needed all the time. if that's the case it could be a number of things. Hardware compatibly will be what most people jump to first. My guess is something in power management is not sending a command to put the drive online in way unraid OS is not seeing it to work correctly. Maybe whenit spins back up it changes drive position if so that would make me lean towards sata chipset compatibility issue (so yes hardware) but someone might have a work around for a case like that. But your Idea it sounds pretty good I just think JoanthanM is right I dont see the Dev's interested in adding more functions like this to the main array now with OpenZFS getting more support.

Hmm many options for this. to start might be good to know how much your looking to spend. Also how much storage are you planning for. And do you have the Storage drives already? Me I'm always reusing old parts from server builds at work. So the new hardware I buy is small. I don't suggest getting many spin drives from Ebay. Most there are recycled used ones and have the smart data cleared and re-flashed. Even if it says is new refreshed from factory. (that's a BS all the time) If you want a CPU with GPU for Transcode I suggest to go Intel but you will be limited on Sata ports in most motherboards. In those cases I would suggest adding a Cheap HBA card a LSI 9211 or something would do fine for any Sata Spinner drives. And get the break out cables that are red. not those thin blue or white wires if you go the HBA route. You might find a better deal some where but these with the extra jacket on the cable have less issues with Fan noise effecting crc count errors on drives. I just wish they made these for all the other interfaces. Because unless I get my cables running a certian way fan noise gets my drives to throw CRC errors. so thats another important thing to note. https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-50cm-SFF-8087-4x-SATA/dp/B008KF73CA/ref=sr_1_15?crid=1KLKCVSCBH791&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Xmgx8R_iNahmri2EmOLTly0o9ekHNAKVpeT8_6Ee0YmpUaZeNCyYyzPaHRD1UVfOuH2JW4nmn4eMyfz0mjHzU-RbzxiT_tuSRpIcRp2M16CeR0YCHkokMLUQ09ZlyGrbeZKq2Nu8O4OCeAUrZKefpnbe5v1SBg8UUxveYdm8H6Pk2ozUVMry-SIn77cdk43Jc8ug68HFRJeC2T4GgxKvnOcj2qfY2nULljrR9knMNihIKQEh2_qiRMCSdpUEwJORQT_FBZZuwnr_nG28H16ezw5yoqsjLPqu_x-_NlXkhjs.xNxbsiphUzF1sNAL95Kg3rze1qSiG0HHpEeuf_f0TMI&dib_tag=se&keywords=sff-8087+to+sata&qid=1726336175&s=electronics&sprefix=SFF+8087%2Celectronics%2C142&sr=1-15 a LSI card like this should be fine. https://www.ebay.com/itm/155689357752?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D271354%26meid%3Df4c26ec6e87647b68bfcc69afe0de097%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D294651809984%26itm%3D155689357752%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bAndUBSourceDemotionWithUltimatelyBoughtOfCoviewV1%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2332490.c101196.m2219&itmprp=cksum%3A155689357752f4c26ec6e87647b68bfcc69afe0de097|enc%3AAQAJAAABQJh9BGsXvPG03pKg78mUhLLErCJ%2BXOEYDkzTGJ85B4rSRXG6DGHfiL9UFpXuaOk%2FmuXW6x51j8YJMfy7doeYuyk9WZaRPkl%2FLlHN84X3%2FeYgVG3iucUQjkVp9Lf5uEN8ToMZsxMjTVrbSlo43NvMdo8FrAGxTUF6ODBix3HhVfXWBm5osY6yOvvEyxN1ylIosNq0Tm6W%2Fk%2FNi9rDZXnD6eiH5WIl3CjvOA%2BpUa%2BTulBEOyb8DXekb8uYBBJegtdefXmqdV5iJWUCkWROwYkw0%2FCf8b7PS3gtsRu%2FbT7ZK5hMDfCHQworU3LR3iqWGbwQnVjS1FH%2BxzE1CJRJH8GPpayW5UVT%2BU5Neg8S0W5XYdt4MSOFcVvyG1gM65Ud%2Bj%2FwIunNK%2FSA4huZjLsv6nN3tsFt81%2FClZsVB6d2HUndQaL%2F|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490&itmmeta=01J7RVQNF50W4G6TWD7JD9WWB4 you can get newer LSI chip sets but your not going to get a lot of drives and cooling in there to benefit from a newer chipset. I think sense you cant use more than a MicroATX board. Your going to not find many intel micro motherboards to have 6 Sata. Your most likely going to need a sata expansion or HBA card. You might find something for AMD. But AMD Transcoding in plex is still new only last 6 or 7 months. I don't think there is much data on the transcoding for me to suggest anything there. As for CPU try to get a CPU with a good base clock speed. Intel 10th gen i5 should work. I haven't see anything yet that actually tells unraid dockers to go past the base clock. I don't see the CPU speed go past that in any of the boxes I made. I wonder today what that means for those new efficiency cores the new tech ideas are great but if the OS doesn't have anything added to use it. Its going to run at the lowest clock rate detected. And that doesn't sound too good to me. I really think unraid for me has run better on AMD. But its required me to add a GPU for transcoding for a perfect world. for that Node 804 case your going to want to avoid that mess. the HBA card will be fine but adding GPU just because of CPU differences its not worth all the cooling challenges your going to have.

Sounds more like a Hot Spare raid concept. The main array is the products name unraid. I don't think a hot spare keeps the intentions of the product label. All though its not a bad Idea. I think if you want that extra data protection. Your better off just adding a second parity. That is if your going to use the main array. If you were going to do a ZFS pool though the new 7.0 might have some feature to what your looking for to a degree. You can setup a hot spare from what I saw in a video. But a ZFS pool is not the main array so very different. But Someone else should comment I'm really that much of a expert. I've just been using and playing with Unraid for a few years now.

I updated 3 weeks ago no issues. just wonder how much longer till 7.0 is in RC status. I'm looking forward to not having the array start and Also the new ZFS options. I hope I can import my existing and add a SLOG to my current zfspool etc...

Seams odd that just started to happen. I was planning on moving everything to a new case with more cooling options. I guess I'm just going to have to make it a little quicker move than I expected. I do have one other option I can do. I've also been trying to move to new hardware again so I might be able to see if the backup server is ready enough to take over.

Server is rebooting on its own I think about every 6 hours or so.

Not sure what is going on I need to some help to see if this is hardware or software. If hardware what is failing. Seams like this just started the last few days. Log attached. neonas3-diagnostics-20240326-1201.zip

Well like I said above a lot of times people will list and say anything. But you don't know for sure unless you check here is where I saw it in the log. Mar 11 11:03:50 NAS kernel: mpt2sas_cm0: LSISAS2008: FWVersion(11.00.00.00), ChipRevision(0x03), BiosVersion(07.00.00.01) I would think the firmware version would say something else. I just dont have a log file with one of these HBA cards to tell for sure. So thats why I suggested you at least check. You ont have to flash it but I would try to follow the steps like you would flash it and check the firmware version. or if the place you got it from added the BIOS to it. you could check before boot and get into the controller. Just don't try to change anything. It might be fine though so not sure. I wish I had a older log file from my older systems to see what mine said.

from your Log post it does look like your HBA controllers are on a older firmware. But If you don't have any issues you might not need to do anything. I would guess that your older setup might have had the power settings in bios set low which was why it could boot up and make all your drives usable. Now in this newer setup. Generally they set things a little more on the higher side especially after you add 1 or 2 cards plugged into the motherboard. But for me when I'm building out systems if I got more than 5 drives I usually use a 650watt min PSU. and I was seeing 7 spin drives plus the small SSD's. That with a new Intel chip with igpu. 500watts was just a little under. might 550watts would be just enough. but it was just a little on the low side to me.

Still not sure what is causing these messages. Diag is above.

500 watts PSU does seam a bit low with that many drives and HBA cards. older 4TB and lower Spin Drives do take some power when I ran 6 4TB WD reds. I made sure my PSU was 650. kind of surprised your dual Xeon box didn't have power issues. unless the CPU's just constantly ran in low power mode. Which can happen if your Bios is not set to turn off C-states and a few other things all depending on what the BIOS lets you do. glad to hear it sounds like your up and running now. I would double check your HBA Firmware to make sure its P20. Sometimes I've gotten a few of those old 9201 cards and I've had to reflash them because who ever sold them didn't do it right or just claimed they did. But your log shows that's good I don't know how to read everything in the logs yet still learning.

Here I'm currently replacing my parity drive. But other than that I just got those weird errors for the i915 and the i2c's neonas3-diagnostics-20240311-1245.zip