Rastaman

Ive precleared 2 Samsung F3's and the first one looks fine i think. But the second one has some strange results. Does anyone know if there's any problem? == Disk /dev/sdf has been successfully precleared ============================================================================== S.M.A.R.T. error count differences detected after pre-clear note, some 'raw' values may change, but not be an indication of a problem 55c55 < 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 252 252 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 --- > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 136 67c67 < 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 252 252 000 Old_age Always --- > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always 72c72 < 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 --- > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 ============================================================================ == Disk /dev/sdc has been successfully precleared ============================================================================== S.M.A.R.T. error count differences detected after pre-clear note, some 'raw' values may change, but not be an indication of a problem 18,28c18,95 < Error SMART Status command failed < Please get assistance from http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ < Register values returned from SMART Status command are: < ST =0x40 < ERR=0x00 < NS =0x0c < SC =0x00 < CL =0x88 < CH =0xe0 < SEL=0x40 < A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options. --- > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED > > General SMART Values: > Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity > was never started. > Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed > without error or no self-test has ever > been run. > Total time to complete Offline > data collection: (25560) seconds. > Offline data collection > capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. > Auto Offline data collection on/off support. > Suspend Offline collection upon new > command. > Offline surface scan supported. > Self-test supported. > No Conveyance Self-test supported. > Selective Self-test supported. > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering > power-saving mode. > Supports SMART auto save timer. > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. > General Purpose Logging supported. > Short self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > Extended self-test routine > recommended polling time: ( 255) minutes. > SCT capabilities: (0x003f) SCT Status supported. > SCT Feature Control supported. > SCT Data Table supported. > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 86 > 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0026 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0023 060 060 025 Pre-fail Always - 12404 > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2 > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 252 252 051 Old_age Always - 0 > 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0024 252 252 015 Old_age Offline - 0 > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 051 Old_age Always - 0 > 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2 > 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 252 252 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0036 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 9 > 223 Load_Retry_Count 0x0032 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 225 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3 > > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > No Errors Logged > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] > > > SMART Selective Self-Test Log Data Structure Revision Number (0) should be 1 > SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 0 > Warning: ATA Specification requires selective self-test log data structure revision number = 1 > SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS > 1 0 0 Completed [00% left] (0-65535) > 2 0 0 Not_testing > 3 0 0 Not_testing > 4 0 0 Not_testing > 5 0 0 Not_testing > Selective self-test flags (0x0): > After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. > And a small update: im assuming the second disk is also correct, running preclear_disk.sh -t /dev/sdc gives the following results: Pre-Clear unRAID Disk ######################################################################## Device Model: SAMSUNG HD203WI Serial Number: S2ACJ1SZ901034 Firmware Version: 1AN10003 User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes Disk /dev/sdc: 2000.3 GB, 2000398934016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders, total 3907029168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 63 3907029167 1953514552+ 0 Empty Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. ######################################################################## ============================================================================ == == DISK /dev/sdc IS PRECLEARED == ============================================================================

Thats good news, the Hitachi drive indeed has bad airflow. It seems the bottom tray is around 5 degrees warmer then the top ones (Zalman 3-in-3 bay) and thats with an empty bay in the middle. But i'll try to play with the fans a little more to make it a little cooler, thanks for the help

I just precleared 4 drives and i cant really tell if the results are good or not. So could someone take a look at them, thanks in advance The first drive is a Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 HDS722020ALA330 Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Disk /dev/sda has been successfully precleared Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Ran 1 preclear-disk cycle Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Using :Read block size = 8225280 Bytes Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Last Cycle's Pre Read Time : 6:23:14 (86 MB/s) Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Last Cycle's Zeroing time : 6:16:27 (88 MB/s) Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Last Cycle's Post Read Time : 14:47:42 (37 MB/s) Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Last Cycle's Total Time : 27:28:39 Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Total Elapsed Time 27:28:39 Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Disk Start Temperature: 36C Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Current Disk Temperature: -->44<--C, Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: == Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: ============================================================================ Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: S.M.A.R.T. error count differences detected after pre-clear Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: note, some 'raw' values may change, but not be an indication of a problem Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: 19,20c19,20 Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: < Offline data collection status: (0x80)^IOffline data collection activity Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: < ^I^I^I^I^Iwas never started. Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: --- Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: > Offline data collection status: (0x84)^IOffline data collection activity Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: > ^I^I^I^I^Iwas suspended by an interrupting command from host. Sep 25 07:39:45 Tower preclear_disk-diff[19750]: ============================================================================ And the other 3 drives are Samsung SpinPoints F3EG Desktop Class HD203WI: Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Disk /dev/sdb has been successfully precleared Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Ran 1 preclear-disk cycle Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Using :Read block size = 8225280 Bytes Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Last Cycle's Pre Read Time : 7:13:58 (76 MB/s) Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Last Cycle's Zeroing time : 6:57:14 (79 MB/s) Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Last Cycle's Post Read Time : 17:01:19 (32 MB/s) Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Last Cycle's Total Time : 31:13:55 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Total Elapsed Time 31:13:55 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Disk Start Temperature: 29C Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Current Disk Temperature: 33C, Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: == Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: ============================================================================ Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: S.M.A.R.T. error count differences detected after pre-clear Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: note, some 'raw' values may change, but not be an indication of a problem Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: 55c55 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: < 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 252 252 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: --- Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 12 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: 67c67 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: < 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 252 252 000 Old_age Always Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: --- Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: 72c72 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: < 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: --- Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 Sep 25 11:26:07 Tower preclear_disk-diff[16777]: ============================================================================ Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Disk /dev/sdd has been successfully precleared Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Ran 1 preclear-disk cycle Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Using :Read block size = 8225280 Bytes Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Last Cycle's Pre Read Time : 7:43:19 (71 MB/s) Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Last Cycle's Zeroing time : 7:24:26 (75 MB/s) Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Last Cycle's Post Read Time : 17:53:32 (31 MB/s) Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Last Cycle's Total Time : 33:02:41 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Total Elapsed Time 33:02:41 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Disk Start Temperature: 28C Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Current Disk Temperature: 31C, Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: == Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: ============================================================================ Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: S.M.A.R.T. error count differences detected after pre-clear Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: note, some 'raw' values may change, but not be an indication of a problem Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: 55c55 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: < 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 252 252 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: --- Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 358 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: 65c65 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: < 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0022 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: --- Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: > 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 25 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: 67c67 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: < 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 252 252 000 Old_age Always Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: --- Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: 72c72 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: < 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: --- Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 Sep 25 13:16:05 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25318]: ============================================================================ Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Disk /dev/sdc has been successfully precleared Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Ran 1 preclear-disk cycle Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Using :Read block size = 8225280 Bytes Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Last Cycle's Pre Read Time : 7:48:19 (71 MB/s) Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Last Cycle's Zeroing time : 7:35:07 (73 MB/s) Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Last Cycle's Post Read Time : 17:54:57 (31 MB/s) Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Last Cycle's Total Time : 33:19:49 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Total Elapsed Time 33:19:49 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Disk Start Temperature: 30C Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Current Disk Temperature: 36C, Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: == Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: ============================================================================ Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: S.M.A.R.T. error count differences detected after pre-clear Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: note, some 'raw' values may change, but not be an indication of a problem Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: 55c55 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: < 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 252 252 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: --- Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 71 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: 67c67 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: < 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 252 252 000 Old_age Always Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: --- Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: 72c72 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: < 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 252 252 000 Old_age Always - 0 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: --- Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1 Sep 25 13:32:33 Tower preclear_disk-diff[25905]: ============================================================================

That sound pretty simple and i almost feel like i should have figured that out by myself. Thanks again Rastaman quickly hides his degree in Electrical engineering

Thanks, but maybe my question was a little vague. I was wondering which of the following would be better: - 4 HDDs on the motherboard + 8 on the AOC-SASLP-MV8 card or - 6 HDDs on the motherboard + 6 on the AOC-SASLP-MV8 card I think i read somewhere it would be better to have more drives on the motherboard, but im not really sure. EDIT: it seems i missed this reply, thanks Rajahal

My case has 'only' room for 12 HDDs, but i have 14 SATA connections (6+, so i was wondering how to connect all the drives. Since i already have 8 SATA cables from the AOC-SASLP-MV8 in the case i was thinking of using all of them, but iirc the SATA connections on the motherboard (asus m4a785t-m) are faster, so it would be wiser to use those. So does it make any difference which connections i'm gonna use?

Good to hear everything is fine now Ever since i saw your post on tweakers.net, ive been thinking of getting a similar build. I only got 2 questions: 1. what about the last 2 HDDs, is there any room left for drive 13 and 14 inside the case? 2. would you have done things differently if you could do it all again