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But nobody has done the unRaid indepth evaluation on the 4tb and 5tb 2.5 inch drives yet?? I wonder if they are being used in enterprise cloud storage for archival purposes? Backblaze could certainly increase the density of their storage pods with these drives. The fact that no 3.5 inch 16 and 20tb drives exist may already point to a tipping point having been reached. The end of the 3.5 inch drive?

Does this mean that they work better than the Seagate 8tb Archive drives. They are quite good..

Sorry, I said "soon" but didn't define "soon". Yes I agree today it still is cheaper to go with 3.5 in drives. But the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) definitely leans towards the much smaller 2.5 inch solutions. Seems most of us are still sticking with 3.5 at the present??

It will soon be more cost effective and it already is more space efficient to build our arrays with 2.5 in drives. I haven't taken the plunge yet. But I have a case that is ready with 2.5 in hotswaps and may try it soon. As long as your case is set up for drives up to 15mm high, you can take advantage of these tiny 4 and 5 tb monsters. Anybody with experience with these little 4tb or 5tb Seagates? https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-2-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000LM024/dp/B01LZMUNGR/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

Updraft plus plugin on WordPress will send ftp backups easily to ProFtp unRaid plugin. I move 25gb per day this way Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Just be careful that your power supply is a single lane. I started with some existing HW like you did and scaled it up to 5 drives, at which point I started to get funny errors that made no sense. Parity errors, reboots, lockups. Yet the hardware all tested out fine. Turns out that the PS was not single lane and this is the result. You can test and start small with non recommended hardware like you suggest above, but check your PS out. It might be the first thing you need to replace as you scale the server.

Originally 3.5 drives were specced to have 6 screw holes (3 on each side) and 6 on the bottom. The newest high capacity drives have sometimes removed the optional center 2 on the sides and the bottom has only had 4 screw holes in many kinds of drives for years. In my opinion they were extra anyways. I never use all the holes. But I have not seen any holes moved. My drive trays always fit, even if not all the holes exist on the drive. https://thecus.kayako.com/Knowledgebase/Article/GetAttachment/708/8008 https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/Seagate/SFF-8300.PDF

Just to clarify what johnnie.black says. You need Win 10 Pro on the VM on unRaid, but the laptop connecting in can be running the lowly Win 10 Home version. I do this all the time for Office and web browsing and really love the user experience over wired gbit and even over wifi.

Just want to give an update on how this works from behind the GFW (Great Firewall of China). I have a server there that copies some website backup zips from a server in USA. USA is on Google Fiber and in China we are on China Telecom with 200mbit down and 3mbit up. The GFW is known to slow down SSH transfers, and it sure does. In the evening, transfer speeds drop way down to dial up speeds, but this example below shows that they can go 1000 times as fast in the early morning. Anybody else seeing significant fluctuations in transfers speeds? (this was from a 7am transfer and the is about as good as it gets) receiving incremental file list backup_2018-03-26-2045_8b52ec48f571-db.gz 19,965,146 100% 4.05MB/s 0:00:04 (xfr#1, to-chk=5/541) backup_2018-03-27-0045_b289b6cf94e3-db.gz 20,072,759 100% 3.84MB/s 0:00:04 (xfr#2, to-chk=4/541) backup_2018-03-27-0445_a68f8c15d41b-db.gz 19,913,288 100% 2.97MB/s 0:00:06 (xfr#3, to-chk=3/541) backup_2018-03-27-0845_4e34663424ee-db.gz 19,932,127 100% 912.26kB/s 0:00:21 (xfr#4, to-chk=2/541) backup_2018-03-27-1245_1fb788df7e07-db.gz 20,027,387 100% 725.39kB/s 0:00:26 (xfr#5, to-chk=1/541) backup_2018-03-27-1646_03c8d71e4bed-db.gz 19,927,016 100% 833.73kB/s 0:00:23 (xfr#6, to-chk=0/541) Number of files: 541 (reg: 541) Number of created files: 6 (reg: 6) Number of deleted files: 0 Number of regular files transferred: 6 Total file size: 8,469,511,456 bytes Total transferred file size: 119,837,723 bytes Literal data: 119,837,723 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 89,580 File list generation time: 8.661 seconds File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds Total bytes sent: 152 Total bytes received: 119,957,216 sent 152 bytes received 119,957,216 bytes 1,181,845.99 bytes/sec total size is 8,469,511,456 speedup is 70.60

And once you have unRaid running so that you never look at the server attached display, you can take that card out and save a few watts of power. (provided your MB can be set to boot without complaining about the lack of video.)

Yep, that would work, but the cabling might be nasty. I use unRaid all the time for VM's but they are connected via RDP or some other way. Gaming VM's need dedicated graphics hdmi, keyboard, and mouse cabling. RDP VM's work fine on wifi or perfectly with only an Ethernet cable. This cabling is the Achilles problem with gaming VM's. Now if all you need is a lan party environment it's perfect as the cabling is short and doable. But separate bedrooms...... RDP is great for web browsing, MS Office type work, coding etc but high perf gaming needs passed through video cards, and the whole cabling thing. The HDMI and USB hubs help, but it's still a pain. They can reboot their Windows VM's from their room, but overall VM control would be from the unRaid Gui. Likely best to simply leave the VM's always running and only shut the screens down with no activity. Depends if you needed more VM control from each bedroom and wanted to give everybody access to the GUI?

8tracks were still not there yet. The old world was much more kid proof. Only thing I remember breaking was one of moms potted plants in a friendly wrestling match. I received guidance... Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

A little parental guidance applied to the backside of the offending toddler was what I remember receiving....

VM GPU passthrough is for gamers mainly. And you need to have the unRaid server close by as you need to cable a monitor and keyboard and mouse directly if you go that route. But if you don't passthrough a GPU, you can connect over the lan via RDP from a laptop or another computer. RDP or the lower performance VNC options are far more flexible. You do give up a little video performance for the flexibility. For example you'll notice a little video sluggishness in Photoshop, but MS Office runs like normal. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

3x2tb data plus 1 2tb parity would give you 6tb without needing to go with the newer 4tb 2.5" drives. The newest high capacity drives are more geared to raid arrays than laptops as they are 15mm thick. The laptop drives have proven that they can stand a beating and maybe the newer thicker ones are as good. How many of us have left our laptops laying in the passenger seat on a hot day. Check out this melted dashboard https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/queensland-heat-melts-car-dashboard-39711

Good to see the old hardware still chugging along. unRaid is frugal, but expect to want to try some new things with v6 that will require more memory. I used to have 1gb ram in a similar server and now have 128gb. (thanks to Facebook updating their servers) Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Yeah it should work. I'll try again

I have used these before in a server with good luck. I bought a new one from Monoprice and it seems to be different than my older ones. And devices connect to the new one will not show up in unRaid 6.4.0 at all. Has anyone else experienced this lately? https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=104&cp_id=10407&cs_id=1040702&p_id=2530&seq=1&format=2 New part number is sd-sa2pex-2ir Seems to be Syba and Newegg seems to have the same thing https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124027 (just noticed the topics of SIL3132 corruption, so maybe it was a poor choice to purchase one of these, but the old one is going strong.)

This is exactly what we do with a pool of 4 main windows Photoshop workstations plus another 4 laptops all windows based. The 4 main PS computers are connected via gbit lan. We keep active data only on the workstations, all archives are on unRaid. We create up to 100gb of new content daily. Our backup only needs to move new or edited content. Static content doesn't move daily. Another unRaid backup server is off-site. How much new content are you creating daily? At 100 megabytes per second you can move over 300 gb per hour? My unRaid servers are 24 Bay units with parity so 50mb/second is what you get with normal parity protected array over gbit wired connections. Since the backups happen in the background hourly on all workstations we are nowhere near saturating our network. I don't understand your concern about speed? We tried Macs but they failed the affordability and compatibility tests in our use so I can't comment further on Macs.

I don't game, but I'm not a coder either. I do a lot of web research in FF chrome and Opera. I spend significant time behind the gfw of China requiring shadowsocks and VPN for access to the Western web. What made you want to switch to Linux? It's better for coders but not so good for gamers. I'm neither. I have an unRaid server with 64gb ram and a e5-2670 with 16 cores. I use Windows VM via RDP. My main desktop is a laptop with 8gb ram. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Nice cleanup to my original ugly looking script. Interesting that you are able to eliminate the IPMI wakeup checks. Even locally, I would sometimes get a server started, but not available. Since it wasn't able to rsync, I would get lots or errors. A subsequent power cycle always seemed to fix things.

100 mb/sec read, 40mb/sec write if you have parity enabled. (As measured by windows explorer transfer speed measure while copying very large files) This assume you have solid gbit wired connection from testing desktop all the way to unRaid. WiFi is much more uncertain. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Areca support was an effort of BubbaQ from way back in 4.x days. It has always been a hack on top of unRaid to allow for the non-standard Areca way of doing things to be understandable by unRaid. @bonienl put together the scsi devices plugin that simplified this significantly, but 2 things remain unresolved. 1. Temperatures on the main page always show as 30 degree Celsius regardless of the real disk temperature. The real temperature is available on the 2. PreClear is limited by lack of support for the initial and post smart reports. I always preclear on a motherboard or other standard SATA connection. Areca users are a small group, and most of the development has been by people who have controllers that they want to work.

>> cat Tower-rsync-key.pub >> authorized_keys This part from the original doesn't seem to be getting saved back to your destination flash drive. Later when you reboot, you are bringing in an old copy of authorized keys that doesn't have this new information in it. However Ken-Ji is far more qualified to get you going than I am. I only hacked this together, and the initial writeup is ugly but it works. We look forward to your success and hope to see a smoother writeup being proposed by the adopters of this process. I'll only say that once you figure it out, it will be super easy from then on. It is working for me with 6.4.0 -> 6.3.5 without issue. The raspberry pi at the destination location is the key to making my destination location dead silent and power bills low until it needs to wakeup to do something.

(above from dlandon) several days ago, but let me make the following clarification... You must have one drive in your array encrypted with the same password or keyfile that you want to use with an unassigned device. This is only because without that, unRaid won't even ask for any encryption credentials, and unassigned devices needs the ones from unRaid before it can mount an encrypted device. Other than that clarification, I haven't seen any issues with the implementation. Thanks @dlandon