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It seems i had a lot of luck then - Just looked up SMART data: #1 (2y, 5m, 25d, 4h) #2 (2y, 3m, 25d, 3h) They are both in a btrfs raid1, i only have 2 flash pools, no array. And the 870 are kinda "cold-storage" so basically not often used. Docker+VMs use the 2x1TB Silicon-Power disks for very hich I/OPS.

Nice danke fürs Teilen! Sehr interessant

Welche CPU wäre das? Welche Idle-Power-Draw hast du da? Supported Unraid P und E Cores gut?

@SebastianSchmidt Hast du meine Antwort gelesen?

(Kurze Sidenote: Meine Gedanken an dem Punkt sind ein wenig AMD zentrisch weil fast alle Systeme die ich baue für mich oder für andere sind Fast AMD only, keiner möchte mehr Intel, die wollen alle Price-To-Performance und da sind meisten 5800x3D gewollt. Ist nicht so das ich es nicht beantworten möchte, keine Frage, die Antwort könnte nur etwas AMD-Orientiert wirken, darum bitte ich das zu entschuldigen.) Ich glaube wenn die GPUs keine Load haben und im Idle also P8 State sind, dass muss ich wohl oder übel mit (8w(4060Ti)+20w(3080Ti)) ~30w rechnen, was glaube ich okay?gut?Spitze? ist für 2 Nvidia GPUs? Der aktuelle Idle vom 5700G ist um die 75w, ideal wäre das System bei 40-50w (Full-Idle) + GPUs evtl.? Ist das möglich mit Hardware die im Falle der Fälle trotzdem UMPF hat um Dedicated-Server wie ARK zu hosten? (Ark braucht viele Cores und die sollten sehr hohe Ghz haben, basiert darauf wie der Server-Manager intern mit dem Master und Client-Thread arbeitet, ist very complex)

Was wären den die Ideen für ein Intel-Basiertes System was "in etwa" einen gleichen UMPF-Faktor hätte? Und was könnte man da an Idle-Power-Draw rausholen? (Die Option die Hardware einfach zu verkaufen und in ein Intel System zu re-investieren besteht ja durchaus).

Keine Frage genau die AMD-Base ist wenig NAS-Zentrisch, bin ich voll bei dir! (Side-Note/Kommentar, zu der die Idee von dieser AMD-Base im Background war "evtl. später" wenn mal in Deutschland "FTTH" mit Symmetrischem Internet kommt (oder 200Mbit+ up) meinen Root bei Hetzner zu kündigen und von zu Hause zu hosten, unter anderem 6-8 Gameserver, aber das ist so weit weg und so viel "Was wäre wenn Szenario" das ich das nicht auch noch mit in den ersten Post packen wollte, dann wäre jeder überfordert was nun eigentlich die Idee ist. ABER so könnte ich 130-145 Euro im Monat sparen und anders investieren.)

Hallo, ich habe aktuell als NAS ein System folgenden Hardware: Mobo: Asus B550 Prime Plus CPU: Ryzen 7 5700G RAM: 128GB DDR4 3200MT SSD: 2x8TB SATA + 2x1TB NVMe PSU: 550/650W EVGA Gold Addons: 1x 10Gbit Mellanox 3 Card 1x RTX4060Ti 16GB (LLMs) 1x PI-KVM an USB+HDMI-Port Power-Draw: 65-75w im Idle (GPU-Idle 7-9w) VM:2-3 ohne PCIe-Passthrough, 24/7 an Docker: 15 Container, Plex, Monitoring-Tools, Development Tools, LLM Tools und hier und da ein Gameserver Nun wollte ich gucken ob ich mein altes Gaming System mit nachfolgender Hardware nehmen kann und daraus mein neues NAS bauen kann (und teile aus dem alten NAS ausbaue und übertrage), weil ich gerne für LLMs wenn nötig 2 GPUs im Idle im System haben möchte und damit zusätzlich mehr Docker-Container wie Plex HW-beschleunigen kann. Problem ist der Power-Idle-Draw, weil ich im End-Effekt an den Strom-Kosten irgendwann verblute wenn das 40Cent/kWh sind. (Das neue alte Gaming System/Neue NAS hat statt b550 x570 Chipsatz und ein Layout was Dual-GPU + 10Gbit Nic auch zulässt, während das alte dies nicht zulassen würde.) Mobo: Asus x570 Prime Pro (gekauft weil Asus gute Bios mit IOMMU-Groups hat) CPU: Ryzen 9 5950x RAM: 128GB DDR4 3200MT SSD: 2x1TB NVMe PSU: 850/1000W EVGA Gold Addons: 1x 10Gbit Mellanox 3 Card 1x RTX3080Ti 12GB (HW-Gpu-Acceleration) Power-Draw: 180-210w im Idle (GPU-Idle 90-120w) Wie man sieht frisst das neue System durchaus mehr Strom, kann aber auch mehr. Weil der Ryzen 5700g eine iGPU hat wird diese für Console und PI-KVM genutzt. Das neue System hat aber keine iGPU also ist die erste GPU immer hart im Power-Draw obwohl sie gar nichts wirklich macht 90-120w. Durch den Tipp von @ich777 habe ich nvidia-persistenced genutzt um die GPU die sonst nicht so richtig idled in P8 Power-State zu bekommen und de idled nun bei 20w, mehr als die 4060Ti vorher aber weniger als 120w . Danach habe ich im Bios bei den PBO Settings geguckt ob man die 120w TDP für den 5950x nicht auf 65w Eco stellen kann, das klappt auch, nun idled das System bei 95-105w. Ich finde das schon besser als vorher, aber immer noch krass hoch, weil das System zu 99,9% idled und da noch keine Load drauf ist. Wenn nun mehr Disks via 2x8TB Sata rüber kommen und noch eine GPU geht die Last bestimmt höher. Was wären Punkte wo man noch Strom sparen könnte? (Ich würde ungern solange Undervolten bis das System fast gar nicht mehr Stabil ist, das NAS sollte stabil 24/7 laufen und ja mir ist klar das man bei AMD einfach den 24/7 Power-Idle-Draw nicht soweit runter bekommt wie bei Intel, dass ist nun mal so, verstehe ich auch.) Bin für Ideen und Feedback offen Vielen Dank vorab

Arent thoose true for Btrfs Raid in a Pool?

For me it was like the first 2-3 hours'ish. But the would fit your scenario, just another timeframe. Could you put that "initial delay information" please in the "Information-Text" off the app? That would reduce false positives.

Eh ... im glad and sorry at the same time, to report the error is gone? 😕 Now it says "Current server • Connected to Mothership" just 1 night went by. Sorry for the trouble i guess? 🤐 I could still generate a report, but im not sure that helps you to nail down the problem. Please let me know.

Still got this problem. This is what i did today: Updated 6.10.1 to 6.10.3, after that installed the "my servers" app from CA and logged in. Directly it said at my servername "Current server • Not Connected to Mothership" even relogging did not stop this

Im on 6.10.4 and its bugs around

Could please provide a 6.10 version? I get only javascript errors in the console:

Im developing Docker images and hosting containers on my unraid systems. I would love to see that in the "Docker" page next to the title "Docker Containers" a tab or switch feature to separate "containers" from "images" because sometimes you loose overview. I already asked in Discord and @OmgImAlexis recommended to try open a feature request for this. Here is some visual content to make more clear what i would love to see: I added on my clean unraid servers some nginx images to make more clear what i mean when the system with docker is used for development. Cool would be a feature like Bootstrap's "Tabs" to split "Containers" from "Images" and maybe make the title more clear on top: Hope i explained it well, please let me know if there are any questions.

Yeah @Meannekes i totally agree and get your point, i should have gone with my 2 other highspeed "SPCC_M.2_PCIe_SSD" Silicon Power SSDs. I have 2 Unraid systems and the one with 2 of thoose disks in it, isnt mission critical, its more like hold some Docker Settings for plex or so and while its set to cache only, the settings are not that important. It runs raid1 anyway and its been barley used as a file cache. So failure rate should be low to extremly low. Next time the better ones

Hey @JorgeB, oh ..... i even know the old thread, so the message isnt whats important, the SMART number 197 is the key here? Good to know, but afaik they should have fixed it in smartmontools according to this: https://www.smartmontools.org/changeset/5061 Just looked into my hostname/Main/Device?name=cache link for the cache drives and disabled 197 which is onr row below 188 which is also disbaled, maybe i missclicked or so and disabled 188 by accidient? Or is 188 disabled by default?

I needed to update my plex docker instance on my NAS Unraid system. So i loggedin into the system via the web gui and i was presented with a lot of thoose messages about this error, going into yellow and green again, see screenshot please. After some searching via google with quotes and without i didnt really found an exact post about what this could mean, the closest i got to find something was this medium.com post ( https://satyeshukumar.medium.com/how-to-fix-current-pending-sector-count-warning-d9232220366e ) which bascially states Is this for my message also true? Did anyone already have this message/error and help me to understand whats needed for my system? About the SSDs: Thoose "Crucial MX500 250GB CT250MX500SSD1(Z)" are bought from 12/2020 so they are fresh ones, and i did invest a bit more money for them as a Raid1 Cache then go with the lower BX series. Please help :X

This one "did you set the unRAID DNS to the IP address of Pihole (not recommended)" I had it for 2 weeks running with only static dns entries, not dhcp and router stuff, it worked like a charm on selected clients, but now where its in the broad, inronically the unRAID system suffers from that, i kinda think off just setting the unRAID IP settings to static and use 1.1.1.1 as DNS from unRAID, seems like a easy fix.

Hey guys, i followed the guide from SpaceInvader, here and there are a few hickups to feel compared to an AdBlock extension but i can live with that. What i cant live with is that i setup'd it like in the video with DNS via DHCP over my router and the DNS address to my docker container and the unRAID server cant resolve any internet domains anymore, the resolv.conf states my DNS is right, but i cant do anything with unRAID in that state. Any ideas? I really thought it wouldnt matter that much that unRAID tries at bootup to get a DNS when the container isnt started yet but now, nothing is working. Regards.

Hey, just installed "Dynamix System Stats" but the selectbox for timing doesnt work at all. all of my displayed data is for about the last 15 seconds. How can i fix that?

Oh my god, i couldnt accept RMAing all the parts and stuck to it and discoverd, that the mainboard is really picky with the PSU, the third one works, i just install the new rig and i feel like in heaven

Thanks pwm and s.Oliver: As both of you asked, whats my scenario and endgoal, i think i have to explain a little (Just to be clear im using unRAID over a year and i know a fair bit about usage and features, but i wouldnt consider myself a pro) (I did use unRAID on my Gaming rig as a GamingVM in a NAS approach, again with the WD disks a few months ago, but i really frustrated me having massive IO and audio issues all the time, even after spending the overprize on a X370 board vs a b350 for better architecture of asus boards and better IOMMU groups): For now its just performance evaluation, but the longterm goal is to reduce my rented pretty powerful dedicated root which comes about 100€ a month, on which i do everything, webhosting, email, teamspeak3, ipfire, docker, gameserver hosting of a multitude of games, evaluating bleeding edge stuff and a few things more, all done mainly by Proxmox, because of the free choice of VMs or OpenVZ containers or if i want docker containers. Later that root (100€) server should go and the critical stuff should be hold there on a 20-30ish€ server per month(web+mail, maybe teamspeak), everything else i want to selfhost from my basement, my internet connection is high and good enough for that( as i said that stuff is not critical, so a downtime is okay if it happens). As i said my old HW for my old unRAID NAS is a dual Xeon L5420 (4c4t) and 24GB ECC DDR 1 RAM, plus a few used bought disks, thats why i want to go for a raid6, because of the multitude of different lifetimes and the possibilty of dying every minute. The disks are 2x 1TB WD Caviar Black 1TB (7,2k rpm) about 5 years power on time, 1x2TB WD Green (5,4k rpm) 5 years too i think, both of them are bought new and are my own. Then i shot 5x1TB Samsung Spinpoint SATA2 (7,2k rpm) for about 100€ used on ebay, no clue of SMART data of any of them, of which 1 just yesterday hicked up again, which basically means its dead for usage and not reliable anymore. Again my old system can about just handle the speeds required for the disks, the 2 pci-e lanes are just the ver1 standard and im using the x4 connector because of a chipset headspreader blocking the x8 port. All 3 WD support SATA3 on paper, but lets be real, the WB Green SATA3 is basically a 5400rpm disk which is about as fast as a 7200rpm SATA2 Samsung Spinpoint avg'ing about 90MB/s. When the new hardware comes back from checking/rma'ing i got a Xeon Low Power Chip ( https://ark.intel.com/de/products/75270/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2650L-v2-25M-Cache-1_70-GHz ) (10c20t) with DDR3 ECC RDIMM R4 with 96GB and a bigger mainboard which itself could handle the 8 disks and i dont have to go for hw rc which only does jbod. When that happens i plan to future proof more, maybe buying new disks for not bottlenecking the cpu and ram. My endgoal is, recude the root BUT also, educate myself on doing nested virtualization. I plan to virtualize ESXi and unRAID and play around with infrastructure automatization, IaaS deployments or maybe XaaS stuff, which basically gives me the ability to create and run 25vms via one button click, which will be bottlenecked if only 1 disks is doing it, but the raid5 or rai6 approach gives me at 7disks the reads of a medium priced ssd. I know raid0 could give me the writes too, but if another Samsung fails everything is again gone, so im sticking with the "better safe than sorry" approach here because it happend yesterday the first time and i had to reinstall everything. Also you will ask yourself, why not use PVE and unRAID in ESXi OR PVE and ESXi in unRAID OR like i just do plan now unRAID and ESXi in PVE. I'm really trying things out here right know and to be honest i dont even know why i not considered PVE at first and only ESXi or unRAID as host, because im using PVE over 7 years know i think. If you wanted to say im knowledged in one of these hypervisors its defenetly PVE for sure on a way bigger scale. But i also know the hickups of all of them. PVE has basically none, except for customing nested VT yourself, which is really really easy, about 3 commands and a reboot. ESXi (im new to that and im just trying it out right now, because im using it at work in the future) needs a good hw rc and compatible HW or you will never see a newer version of this software and the cool stuff like IaaS or XaaS costs a lot money. unRAID is really cool as a NAS with a custom SW raid function that never had a basis on a hw rc and gives you a lot of features, but its not made for clustering, HA, live-migration of VMs/containers, which the others do, again its a NAS. To be honest im not using HA or a cluster or live migration, but i use backups of containers via snapshots every night, which PVE masters perfectly, also everything im trying to later move here is in that format, so no migration process needed, but that wouldnt be a dealbreaker to do if its needed though. I really hope you guys now understand a little better now, why i really love to have PVE but also unRAID too. (ESXi, meh, im new to that, it costs a lot of money and its really freaking picky, but here is where the cool enterprise stuff is, IaaS/XaaS VM deployments and stuff, but dont see me here as knowledged, i only now just the basics maybe.) But to be honest, from my pov, unRAID was always a freaking good NAS with really cool stuff that seeks a rival, but PVE is a free and basic ESXi alternative which not delivers any NAS function but many container formats except docker. All i know is, i want to have a basic robust system and virtualize the rest and 1000 things more in the future to evaluate things. Thats why its so hard to make your mind up, in which order you want to do things. Is speed more needed that power efficency? Where is the bottleneck on which approach? Can you live with the bottleneck? Does nested hypervisor B or C even work with host system A? Does the deeper nested system X even work with host or guest system A and B? (Again robust base) Where to store my classic NAS "private" stuff? How does a backup strategy look like? (raid even unraid isnt a backup, as you know) Im sure i would come up with many more questions the more i type here So please feel free to share your feedback, your knowledge, your experience and maybe even your plan to do this, because there is more than meets the eye and more eyes see more than just 1 pretty much confused and sad (rmaing my new server) person.

Well my new ordered hardware wont run so i have to through RMA and stuff sadly. Im now using my old dual xeon (4c/4t each) with ddr1 ecc 24G ram, which is enough for playing. BUT on the other hand i have 8 disks (7x1TB+1x2TB) connected to a HW raidcontroller (Adaptec ASR-5805 i think) which just lets me use all disks, while my mainboard has not enough ports. As you said, on one hand its "un"+"raid", BUT on other hand it isnt a Raid6 with 600% read speeds, which is why im going for first testings with Debian9,5 and PVE and virtualize all the things including unraid, or do you see another way? Cause im not really down to do a SW raid via Debian installer and just use my hw rcard as JBOT, EXCEPT there is a really good and solid benefit. Can you think of one? Any suggestions / feedback for me? This is a poc for me, im try it right now out, so please feel free to go crazy

As far as i can read, you guys never got into details of using raid0/1/5/6/10 with your disk, all i can see is that some ppl tried to pass through some SATA controllers. Did you used a certain 300G disk from pve for unraid, or did all of you pass a controll or certain disks through? What about raidlevel on pve? Can you guys sure some details/insight on this? I really want to follow this way, for using pve as a base, i love it since years. But i also want to use unraid as the nas for my home and esxi to evaluate and play around insde pve. Any tips or insight on this?