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I have not seen those same errors, but I did find the below that appeared to occur during startup. I also see the same failed login errors randomly occurring but not continually. Newly noticed in the log: Any help or insight on the above is appreciated.

thanks for the help with this. working fine now.

I was hunting on another issue and came across a couple errors in my log file and wanting to know if these would be concerning. Hardware Error - it seems to say it was ECC corrected, but I've never actually seen this happen before. Is this a sign that something is failing? I found multiple instances of a "failed login, spaced throughout the end of the startup routine. There is no specific pattern of a command happening either immediately above or below the timeline of these fails. Typically there is either a Smart read or a disk fan adjustment command above and/or below those login fails, but some are close in time and others are hours apart so that doesnt seem like a pattern. Any way to track down what this is?

Thanks this is a big help, didn't know that list was there. I see you did it by IP address, but my SMB share is mounted by name. Which of these is correct? They are in order of what I think is most likely correct, but just checking. /usr/local/sbin/rc.unassigned mount //UNRAID_BU/BACKUP or /usr/local/sbin/rc.unassigned mount /mnt/remotes/UNRAID_BU_BACKUP or /usr/local/sbin/rc.unassigned mount //192.168.XX.XX/backup (I don't have anything mounted by IP on UNRAID, just the NAS Name. The IP is how I would find it on a windows machine)

Any help with this?

I THINK what I'm asking for here is a command line to put in a script file to first mount a drive that is visible in unassigned devices, and then after the rest of the script runs, unmount the drive before it ends. The situation: I have an external simple NAS (Synology) that is a complete backup of my unRAID data. There is a user script that is intended to run maybe twice a month to execute a set of rclone commands to complete the backup. The NAS is usually asleep, the script file will wake the NAS fine but unless I manually mount the drive the rclone actions just error out. Once I mount the drive the script runs fine. Then I've noticed twice now, after the script completes over the next few days my log file is filling up with thousands of the same error line (sample below). What I think is happening, is the NAS is going back to sleep and the drive is still mounted so it starts generating errors. The only flaw I can't explain in this logic, is that even after manually umounting the drive the errors continue to generate until I reboot the server to stop them, and then all is quiet again. Unless you see something else in this error message, I'm looking for two command lines for the user script. One to mount the drive after it wakes, and one to unmount the drive after the rclone commands run. EDIT: In the below excerpt there is what might be the unmount command line that came from me clicking the unmount button. Would this work inside the user script file: Unmount cmd: /sbin/umount -t cifs -l '/mnt/remotes/UNRAID_BU_BACKUP' 2>&1 If so then is the Mount command the excact same? Mount cmd: /sbin/mount -t cifs -l '/mnt/remotes/UNRAID_BU_BACKUP' 2>&1 EDIT 2: I tried the above and it didn't work. Thanks in advance for any help. Mar 29 16:20:58 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:21:09 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:21:20 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:21:30 TODD-Svr webGUI: Successful login user root from 192.168.XXX.XXX Mar 29 16:21:31 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:21:42 TODD-Svr unassigned.devices: Warning: shell_exec(/usr/bin/df '/mnt/remotes/UNRAID_BU_BACKUP' --output=size,used,avail | /bin/grep -v '1K-blocks' 2>/dev/null) took longer than 10.0s! Mar 29 16:21:42 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:21:53 TODD-Svr unassigned.devices: Unmounting Remote SMB/NFS Share '//UNRAID_BU/BACKUP'... Mar 29 16:21:53 TODD-Svr unassigned.devices: Synching file system on '/mnt/remotes/UNRAID_BU_BACKUP'. Mar 29 16:21:53 TODD-Svr unassigned.devices: Unmount cmd: /sbin/umount -t cifs -l '/mnt/remotes/UNRAID_BU_BACKUP' 2>&1 Mar 29 16:21:53 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:21:53 TODD-Svr unassigned.devices: Successfully unmounted '//UNRAID_BU.LOCAL/BACKUP' Mar 29 16:22:04 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:22:16 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:22:27 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:22:38 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:22:49 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:23:00 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:23:11 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:23:22 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:23:31 TODD-Svr unassigned.devices: Remote server 'UNRAID_BU.LOCAL' port '445' is not open; server appears to be offline. Mar 29 16:23:34 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:23:45 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name Mar 29 16:23:56 TODD-Svr key.dns_resolver: UNRAID_BU.LOCAL: No address associated with name

Thanks for the help, much appreciated. Do I actually need the WOL for Services Plugin for etherwake to work? I installed WOL for Services, but not sure its actually needed since etherwake is a separate install.

So like this? #!/bin/bash etherwake XXXXX sleep 120 rclone sync '/mnt/user/Backup Items' '/mnt/remotes/UNRAID_BU_BACKUP/Personal Backup' rclone sync '/mnt/user/Media' '/mnt/remotes/UNRAID_BU_BACKUP/Media'

OK, got that to work and tested the etherwake command in a terminal screen, worked perfect so TY. Last question: It takes 1-2 mins for the NAS to fully wake up. Do I need to have a "pause" occur in my userscript for the backup between etherwake, and the rclone commands? It will automatically wait for a drive to spin up but not sure Rclone will not just register an error when it hasn't woken up yet. What command would make it pause for 90 seconds between those commands?

Thanks for this. I'll do some reading and post further in that thread for help if needed. Much appreciated.

I have a separate NAS that is a portable backup (Synology). it's mounted as a drive in UNRAID with unassigned devices. The model I have does support WOL. Is there a command I can add to my userscript for running a backup (uses Rsync) that would trigger the WOL? simply running the script while the synology is asleep does nothing. Thanks in advance for any advice.

Does this backplain look like its open enough for cooling?

I'm planning a backup rig. Originally I was just going to use a hardware raid case with 4 drives and an eSATA connection and that was driven by size and portability. One of the criteria is the ability to pick it up and walk out of the house easily enough. However after an earlier post in here I decided to just make a separate unRAID rig, stability, flexibility, expandability.. all the reasons everyone here knows. However, that does leave me with more of a challenge to balance, size, portability and of course airflow. I've always been able to keep drives < 40dC and would like to keep that philosophy the backup is to protect data and cooler drives are part of that. I'm more concerned with the balance of size/cooling than it being a little more of a challenging build. I know there is no perfect case out there (though I don't know why ) I've read recent comments here about some of my top options but have missed if anyone actually spoke of drive temp outcomes after the build. Any thoughts are welcome and appreciated: https://www.amazon.com/N2-Aluminum-Support-Integrated-Removable/dp/B0BQJ6BCB7/?th=1 https://www.ebay.com/itm/134692492542 (this one is sold out on Amazon at the moment) https://www.amazon.com/AUDHEID-Compatible-Mini-ITX-Attached-Enclosure/dp/B096FD8WVS/ I like the FD 304, but I thik its nearly 18" deep making the portability more of a thing. Thanks in advance, other suggestings I may have missed are very welcome.

Thanks, 1st cycle will finish shortly tonight (3 days). I'm doing 2 and then will do a long self test. The self test took a day last time.

Does anyone have any thoughts, particularly on the MB options?

Any chance you can have a peek at the two long smart reports and let me know if you see anything you would worry about?

These are the two reports after a long smart test. Any thoughts. One had near zero usage and the other a few hours. I think they way the report "raw data" (in hexa) this is still OK, but any insight is helpful. yes/no? next step will be preclearing ST18000NT001-3NF101_ZVTAXLKZ-20240723-0053.txt ST18000NT001-3NF101_ZVTAW2GT-20240723-0046.txt

Theses are ~ $10 / TB, half of what they would be otherweise. i've pre-cleared every drive in my array, usually 2 cycles. Those were 6 TB drives, 3 cycles at 18 TB takes a week?

Looking for help in selecting hardware for a rig to backup data on only. Its not intended to run Plex or other dockers, just manage a daily or maybe bi-weekly "sync'ing" of data at night. I have about 30 ish TB of data to backup and planning on starting with 3 - 18 TB drives (one for parity) and having room to add a 4th in the case which would cover me for the foreseeable future on capacity. That said: I like the look and form of this case, more because its portable, size, shape, form. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WZLHCZG/ref=ewc_pr_img_3?smid=A3745GL15R2CE4&psc=1 My only concern with this is heat management. It wont run all the time but needs to be able to manage a pre-clear operation and moreover the initial copy over, which I think will take several days (30 TB). With 3 drives in that case it might be OK so close to the fan leaving an empty space between each drive. If I ever add a drive I'm thinking it may be pretty air flow restrictive. I wish it were 4 bays in the same space. This was another I looked at. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WQC44B3/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=A2IQNZSH0ZS9OH&th=1 little better interior space but doesn't' appear to have a fan right on the hard drives, just the rear fan that is behind the drives but its open top/bottom just inside the case and behind the backplane. i'm not sure how much direct air movement it will pull over those drives. Thoughts? Any other suggestions on a case? For MB's. I have a few I've been looking at. Obviously it would be nice to find something with 5 SATA's (if I use the first case), otherwise 4 is enough. I don't have a good feel for how much processing power I really need to not limit write speed so any advice is helpful. It would be much more cost effective to get one of the boards that already has a CPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZ74H2RJ/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=AKTROCCBLP6VN&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/N5105-N6005-Demon-SATA3-0-I226-V/dp/B0BZ3655Z1/?th=1 If those CPU's aren't enough, I could go to one of these and find a CPU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08F7BHDLY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D2PC3PTW/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=A3MW2JWB8F4AK&th=1 The first option may not be more expensive, but only 4 sata ports. Thanks all. If I can pick a case and MB and get down to a PSU and memory.

They are Seagate Ironwolf Pro's and would be used in a new rig just as a data backup. I was thinking it made complete sense to use them but started having 2nd thoughts. If I do go this way I will do a smart check looking for high temp or high usage.. run a preclear, and return if they don't pass. I'd probably only have 3 drives in the array, one of them for parity and space to add one more drive at some point. If I ever actually needed that backup it means something already went very wrong. I also live on the coast and want something I can pick up in the event of a storm and walk out the door with that doesn't weigh 70 lbs. The data is not irreplaceable, but it would be completely impractical to do it. It's grown over probably 15 years and I dont even want to think how many hours it would take to start over. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even try. That has me thinking of creating the backup rig. The small portion of data that is important to me and irreplaceable is backed up in a different way and not so much at risk.

Meaning you buy "renewed" hard drives only?

Have you, would you ever use a renewed drive, if it passed a preclear and smart data didn't show anything abnormal or excessive? Drives are essentially half the normal price per TB, and would be used in a data backup rig.

thanks for the help all I'll be adding a new thread under the design section of the forum.

I may end up starting a new thread over this. Would a board like this be capable of running unRAID, just as a backup machine? Meaning only the core processes, 3-4 drives. https://www.amazon.com/Mini-ITX-Motherboard-8-threads-SATA3-0-Display/dp/B0D8TWFJL4/?th=1

I really appreciate the feedback. The only issue with setting up a new UnRAID box and retiring the old to a backup is size and portability. That existing box is running 6 TB drives and is a full tower with 12 3.5" bays. It weights 60-70 lbs. I'm looking for a backup that I can pick up and walk out the door with and little fuss. However paying attention to the last couple posts, I am thinking about this case again. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WQC44B3/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=A2IQNZSH0ZS9OH&th=1 Its small enough to walk away with easily. I could use 3 - 18 TB drives and have room for a 4th of any size later. (I have about 30 or so TB to backup) If all I'm running is bare bones unRAID, it can work on a MiniITX board, correct? Can't think of any reason it wouldn't, but honestly never looked. I guess circling back.. I could do a new smaller faster box for the main box and leave the backup in the house. IE the pick up and leave box is the main box. However I'd need to think about size and cooling. I might dig around for options on that tonight.