PeteAron

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  1. 8 hours ago, winklevos said:

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    The UPC stuff is a little more complex. I changed my key today, the old way, and it was super simple barely an inconvenience. I'll outline my concerns with this direction, take them as you will.

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    These are my concerns, the features and functions of Unraid in this release are great. Thanks for the work put into them

    I wont annoy anyone by posting my objection to the UPC again, but in case it makes any difference to the company, for whom I have had great respect and good feelings for about 11 years, this will represent the end of my support.  I will not upgrade from my current state.  I have ZERO interest in having my servers connected to the internet except for one application on my backup server.  There is no need to take any risk whatsoever of allowing some mistake/mismanagement/malicious attack/ whatever at Lime technology and _especially_ over this "for information only" forum.  I am stunned that connecting registration on this forum directly to our server license and information was even floated except over a beers.   I really can't believe this is being considered.

     

    I suppose the modern way of things is subscriptions to gouge every last dime out of customers at a seemingly low price month by month but I am rejecting it from microsoft and will reject it here.  I am quite happy with my purchase, have recommended UNRAID uncounted times to others and several friends are now users but that is at an end.  I will remain at my current version of unraid that that's that.  It sounds like i need also to delete this forum account, unfortunately.

     

    I am certain noone gives a rat's but I thought I would clarify my position before signing off of the forum.  

     

    Why not just charge for version upgrades instead?  Is that because people might decide they dont need the current version and you'd like to charge them anyway?  At the price of the security of my servers?  I just dont understand.  I have happily paid for my licenses and was actually considering purchasing a third, but man this will get very expensive very quickly if i pay for it every month.

     

    what happens when i stop paying?  

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  2. Agree, no risk like this is acceptable.  

    On 8/10/2021 at 2:32 AM, AngriestNerd said:

    I, for one, do not like the UPC requirement. I completely understand the convenience of it, and if you like that, then I think it should be available to you. But it is important to realize that it comes with a steep security tradeoff. Even if no additional server data is transferred during the linking of the forum account and the UPC service (and that is a big "if" that needs to be made clear), that still makes it FAR too easy for keys to be compromised.

    This isn't about bashing LimeTech, but the reality of things is that forum account credentials could be compromised at some point (Ubiquiti, among others, had far worse than that happen). I would much rather keys be HARD to change, especially with them associated with my critical servers. If this change is not more explicitly avoidable, I will not purchase any further keys. I LOVE Unraid and have recommended it to many people, but this change would be a deal breaker for me.

    All user data should be able to be controlled/restricted by the user. Also, I would love to see a setting to hide the login link on the header (but I'm sure there will be a plugin/app to do this if LimeTech doesn't).

    On 8/10/2021 at 4:12 AM, mgutt said:

    I'm not sure if I really like to bind my keys to this moderator account.

     

    PS I really wonder why Limetech binds their license sales to a forum software which had serious loading problems in the last months. And I really wonder why to Invision. Invision is the company which canceled all lifetime licenses with the release of version 4. And its still a slow, expensive and buggy forum software compared to eg Xenforo (Froala = best editor).

     

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