Zentachi Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 Updated to 6.9.1 as well and everything runs smoothly. As I can see the issue is resolved for everyone, so will be tagging this topic as solved. Quote Link to comment
gerard6110 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Now on 6.9.2. Issue not solved. Still not spinning down due to read SMART .. May 19 13:23:56 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh May 19 13:24:02 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdi May 19 13:24:11 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdl May 19 13:24:17 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdm May 19 13:48:48 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf May 19 13:48:53 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdm May 19 13:54:27 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdl May 19 13:54:42 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg May 19 13:56:36 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdi May 19 13:57:18 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdk May 19 14:00:15 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg May 19 14:00:15 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdl May 19 14:00:20 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdb May 19 14:00:36 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf May 19 14:02:49 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 19 14:08:13 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh May 19 14:08:26 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdm May 19 14:08:26 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdk May 19 14:08:34 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdi May 19 14:17:13 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdb May 19 14:26:34 Stacker emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg May 19 14:31:02 Stacker emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg Quote Link to comment
Andiroo2 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Not solved for me either on 6.9.2 May 19 01:08:08 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdk May 19 01:08:08 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdl May 19 01:11:00 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 19 01:13:06 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdj May 19 01:13:06 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdl May 19 01:13:07 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdk May 19 01:13:17 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh May 19 01:28:37 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 19 01:29:47 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdj May 19 01:30:17 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdk May 19 01:41:51 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdl May 19 02:01:18 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdl May 19 02:01:28 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh May 19 02:01:38 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdj May 19 02:20:57 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdj May 19 02:20:57 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 19 02:20:57 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdl May 19 02:27:40 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdl May 19 02:42:42 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdl May 19 04:10:57 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdl May 19 04:11:07 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh May 19 04:25:59 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdl May 19 04:26:09 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 19 04:36:15 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdl May 19 04:36:33 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh May 19 04:51:25 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdl May 19 04:52:23 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdj May 19 05:01:32 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 19 05:07:25 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdj May 19 06:14:14 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdl May 19 06:52:09 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdl This is with Telegraf/Grafana stopped. I am testing with some dockers down at given times to see if I can find a culprit, but so far no luck. Quote Link to comment
michelm Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Anyone found a solution to this issue? My disk's also not going into spin down mode. I also think it worked with previous releases. Quote Link to comment
rgi Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Same issue here on a fresh 6.9.2 install with only 2 drives and 1 share: Jul 11 19:09:02 Hannibal emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdb Jul 11 19:09:04 Hannibal emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc Jul 11 19:12:23 Hannibal emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdb Jul 11 19:13:13 Hannibal emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc Quote Link to comment
moguiyu Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 6.9.2 turned off all VM and docker. Jul 11 23:16:39 M17 emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sde Jul 11 23:17:28 M17 emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sde Jul 11 23:32:04 M17 emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sde same problem here. the disk is format in GPT instead of MBR, this is the only difference compare to other sleeping disks Quote Link to comment
NasKaya Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Unraid 6.9.2 Hey, i also have the problem that my disks are not spinning down. Even if i spin them down manual, they will spin up 5 sek later. Tryed turning off all vm and docker. Also looked with the Plugin File Activity but there is nothing reading or writing. In the logs of the drive i see the SMART scan right after the spindown. Jul 16 14:26:27 emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc Jul 18 23:39:28 emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc Jul 18 23:39:31 emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc Jul 18 23:39:51 emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc Jul 18 23:39:54 emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc Jul 18 23:43:37 emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc Jul 18 23:43:45 emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc Jul 18 23:50:11 emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc Jul 18 23:50:28 emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc Quote Link to comment
Juzzotec Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 This is something I noticed recently as well... my disks never spin down unless I initiate it manually. Open files shows no shares accessed, only cache... hddtemp disabled from grafana-unraid-stack docker. I checked Disk Settings and Default spin down delay: is set to Never. I have not touched this setting at all! does never mean, never spin disk down or 0 mins delay to spin down. Could that be something enabled by default since 6.9.2? Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Never means no automatic spin downs. Quote Link to comment
Juzzotec Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 16 hours ago, itimpi said: Never means no automatic spin downs. Thanks, no wonder my disks are not automatically spinning down. Is Never the default value? I just changed it to 3 hours and will test and report back overnight. What does everyone else set this as? 1 hr, 4, hrs... Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, Juzzotec said: Thanks, no wonder my disks are not automatically spinning down. Is Never the default value? I just changed it to 3 hours and will test and report back overnight. What does everyone else set this as? 1 hr, 4, hrs... Not sure there is a perfect answer Quite a few disk controllers suspend any other I/O while spinning up a drive which can cause temporary freezing in video streaming so you have to balance this against power savings of more frequent spindowns. 1 Quote Link to comment
yorch Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Running both 6.9.2 and 6.10.0-rc1 and having the same issue, disabled all Docker containers, disabled Auto Fan and still having this issue. My disks are SAS if it's relevant. They do spin down at the 15 min mark (as I have them configured) and then, few moments later, spin up again. I was playing with suggestion on this thread and noticed that after removing Auto Fan, seemed like it worked, my disks stayed spin down for a good minute or two and then they started again, in the logs, I could see: Aug 29 05:48:49 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sde Aug 29 05:48:49 Tower SAS Assist v0.86: Spinning down device /dev/sde Aug 29 05:50:30 Tower kernel: sd 1:0:3:0: [sde] tag#786 CDB: opcode=0x85 85 06 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 40 e5 00 Aug 29 05:50:32 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sde the time for the `emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sde` corresponds exactly to the time my disks spun up again, so it is possible that the UI is actually causing this issue? Quote Link to comment
SimonF Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 3 hours ago, yorch said: the time for the `emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sde` corresponds exactly to the time my disks spun up again, so it is possible that the UI is actually causing this issue? this is due to ui detecting disk is spun up. what model disks do you have? Quote Link to comment
yorch Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 6 hours ago, SimonF said: this is due to ui detecting disk is spun up. what model disks do you have? Thanks for your reply.. This is what I have: ST33000650SS HUS726060AL5210 DKS2D-H3R0SS Is there a log somewhere that tells when disks spun down and up? Quote Link to comment
SimonF Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 7 hours ago, yorch said: Thanks for your reply.. This is what I have: ST33000650SS HUS726060AL5210 DKS2D-H3R0SS Is there a log somewhere that tells when disks spun down and up? Yes the syslog, but it may be the spindown is not working correctly or the checking of its status and hence why the system is doing the read SMART to get drive temps. It looks like its trying to send an ATA command to the SAS drive, suggest you post output of the commands below on the SAS helper plugin page. Does it happen with all drives? Unraid uses the following to spin down and the second command is the status, could you run for each drive? /usr/local/sbin/sdspin /dev/sdx down echo $? /usr/local/sbin/sdspin /dev/sdx echo $? sdparm -ip di_target /dev/sdx Quote Link to comment
fluisterben Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 9:21 AM, SimonF said: Unraid uses the following to spin down and the second command is the status, could you run for each drive? /usr/local/sbin/sdspin /dev/sdx down echo $? /usr/local/sbin/sdspin /dev/sdx echo $? sdparm -ip di_target /dev/sdx What exactly do you mean by this? You have posted 5 commandlines. Rather confusing. The sdparm command does not state anything about drives being spun down or not, or at least I don't see it.. Quote Link to comment
SimonF Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 hours ago, fluisterben said: /usr/local/sbin/sdspin /dev/sdx down echo $? /usr/local/sbin/sdspin /dev/sdx echo $? these will run the commands and show status to validate if they spin down and status. 10 hours ago, fluisterben said: sdparm -ip di_target /dev/sdx This is used to identify SAS drives Quote Link to comment
fluisterben Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 This is still an issue. My disks keep spinning up almost immediately after spinning them down, which, barely any even do when asked. This used to not be the case, with the exact same hardware and software config. Something is waking them up, and it costs us a ridiculous amount of power. In fact, the reason I noticed this issue, is because we wanted to know what changed in our power consumption. Turned out it was the unraid server. Quote Link to comment
SimonF Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 10 hours ago, fluisterben said: This is still an issue. My disks keep spinning up almost immediately after spinning them down, which, barely any even do when asked. This used to not be the case, with the exact same hardware and software config. Something is waking them up, and it costs us a ridiculous amount of power. In fact, the reason I noticed this issue, is because we wanted to know what changed in our power consumption. Turned out it was the unraid server. Can you post diags? Quote Link to comment
BoutTime Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) Rather than the SMART Read either spinning the disks up or preventing them from spinning down, I believe it's Plex do it instead and the SMART Reads are just happening because the disks are already spinning. Edited October 15, 2021 by BoutTime Quote Link to comment
BoutTime Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours later and no spin-ups and no SMART Reads..... Quote Link to comment
Fabrizio Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Hi there, i had the same issue and I fixed it by moving docker's virtual disk from array to cache. The app reeded always on the array so the disk was always spin up. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Ferreira Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Hello, having the same issue, my disks are not spinning down even if i spin them down manualy, they will spin up 5 seconds later. Tryed turning off all dockers, Using Unraid 6.9.2, Nov 17 20:12:24 NAS emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sde Nov 17 20:12:24 NAS emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdb Nov 17 20:12:24 NAS emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf Nov 17 20:12:24 NAS emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc Nov 17 20:18:31 NAS emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdb Nov 17 20:18:31 NAS emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf Nov 17 20:18:31 NAS emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc Nov 17 20:19:00 NAS emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sde Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Pedro Ferreira said: Tryed turning off all docker Did you actually disable docker in Settings? Attach Diagnostics to your NEXT post in this thread. Quote Link to comment
Pedro Ferreira Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) @trurl thanks for taking the time to reply, here is the Diagnostics, please keep in mind that i'm kind of a noob with computers. no i didn´t knew that was possible to disable dockers in the Settings, i usualy go to the docker tab and stop them one by one, i only have 3 instaled. nas-diagnostics-20211118-1933.zip Edited November 26, 2021 by Pedro Ferreira Quote Link to comment
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