Last part needed for initial build! (CASE recommendations)


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CPU

  • AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor - $309.99

Motherboard

  • ASRock X470D4U Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard - $229.99

Memory

  • Crucial 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 non-ECC Memory (part #: CT16G4DFD832A) - $163.50

Storage (Cache)

  • Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive - $69.99

Storage (Parity)

  • Western Digital Red 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive - $94.99

Storage

  • Western Digital Red 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive - $94.99

Power Supply

  • EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - $79.98

Operating System

  • Unraid Basic - $59.00

 

Total so far: $1102.42

 

Intended use for the build (Unraid server):

  • Plex (with transcoding) [max 10 users at once, max 5 (of the 10) transcoding, mostly 1080p, mostly remote streaming)
  • Nextcloud
  • Minecraft server (max 10 users at once, not heavily modded but it would be nice to be able to explore it)
  • Pi-hole
  • Ampache
  • deemix
  • UniFi Controller Software
  • 2-3 VMs
  • *Ability to add on to this if desired later on*

 

Questions

  1. I was considering either the X470D4U, X470D4U2-2T, X570D4U, or X570D4U-2L2T. The latter 2 are X570, and the 2T and 2L2T have 10GbE. Thinking I don't need 10GbE... Will X470 still be good for the years to come? Is it worth shelling out the extra $250 for X570?
  2. Will non-ECC ram be the end of the world? The motherboard supports it, but it seems a little too expensive.
  3. If you see above, you will see my Plex requirements which will most definitely require transcoding from a video card. However, I do NOT plan on buying a GPU right now, so basically I want the build (including case) to all be compatible and capable when I am ready to add in the GPU (and additional storage mentioned below).
  4. Looking for a case to fit this build as well as fit a nice GPU and 3 more hard drives that I will get at a later date (for a total of 6 - the max allowed for the basic Unraid license)
  5. I get the following warning in PCPartPicker: "Some AMD X470 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions." Something to worry about?
  6. Are 5400 RPM drives ok? Compared to +$45 each for 7200 RPM (WD Red Pro)?
  7. Is 650W PSU ok?
  8. Is this a good build (+ case, and soon to be added GPU and additional storage) given the intended use?
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  • hell0 changed the title to Need help picking out RAM and a case (also rate my build so far!)
  • hell0 changed the title to Need help picking out RAM, GPU, and a case (also rate my build so far!)
  • hell0 changed the title to Last part needed for initial build! (CASE recommendations)

1st major problem, why use SATA SSD instead NVMe ? They are same price.

 

If you plan use low-end GPU then 650w PSU fine.

 

8 core CPU was good start, sweet balance.

 

I like 5400 grade HDD because less heat generate and I use shuck disk often, C/P always the main factor. But if you use 4TB disk then speed perform will further lower due to less disk platter which compare to those high capacity disk.

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On 5/4/2021 at 9:26 PM, hell0 said:

Questions

  1. I was considering either the X470D4U, X470D4U2-2T, X570D4U, or X570D4U-2L2T. The latter 2 are X570, and the 2T and 2L2T have 10GbE. Thinking I don't need 10GbE... Will X470 still be good for the years to come? Is it worth shelling out the extra $250 for X570?
  2. Will non-ECC ram be the end of the world? The motherboard supports it, but it seems a little too expensive.
  3. If you see above, you will see my Plex requirements which will most definitely require transcoding from a video card. However, I do NOT plan on buying a GPU right now, so basically I want the build (including case) to all be compatible and capable when I am ready to add in the GPU (and additional storage mentioned below).
  4. Looking for a case to fit this build as well as fit a nice GPU and 3 more hard drives that I will get at a later date (for a total of 6 - the max allowed for the basic Unraid license)
  5. I get the following warning in PCPartPicker: "Some AMD X470 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions." Something to worry about?
  6. Are 5400 RPM drives ok? Compared to +$45 each for 7200 RPM (WD Red Pro)?
  7. Is 650W PSU ok?
  8. Is this a good build (+ case, and soon to be added GPU and additional storage) given the intended use?

 

1. I would say definitely not worth shelling out the extra for X570, unless you have a particular use case for it (such as PCIe 4.0) and it sounds like you don't. If anything I would go full size ATX unless there was a particular reason you wanted micro ATX?

2. No, I run a Ryzen self built system using standard DDR4 memory, worth getting decent 3200Mhz or 3600MHz memory for Ryzen.

3. You will need a GPU with the 3700X at the outset. The 3700X doesn't have onboard graphics, so either buy a cheap Ryzen APU instead as a stop-gap, or a very cheap GPU second hand. You just need *something* to give graphics capability at the outset.

4. Very much personal preference, but I like Lian Li, Fractal Design and Phanteks cases. But I guarantee you will be upgrading that basic licence at some point for extra storage!

5. What they are saying is that the motherboard might require a BIOS update to work with Ryzen 3000 series or newer. If you are buying a new motherboard now, I bet the house that it will be Ryzen 3000 ready and if it isn't, any decent specialist retailer will update the BIOS for you. Or someone on here. Or anywhere. It's a non-issue and workaroundable if needs be.

6. Go 5400rpm, especially if in a small case or noise/heat is a concern. If anything, get a bigger cache drive and then have Unraid schedule to move stuff off the cache daily to the hard drives.

7. Having had a EVGA Platinum 1200W PSU go bang on me after 8 months, I am somewhat reluctant to go EVGA for a PSU. Have a look at SeaSonic PSUs, they offer a 10 year warranty for a reason. I personally like a bit of 'growth' room for a PSU and have 850W SeaSonics in my normal PC and Unraid server.

8. As an idea, consider the full size X470 motherboard. Also, if you go second hand on the CPU, you might pick up a good deal on a 3900X from someone who has upgraded to Ryzen 5000 series. But you will need some kind of GPU at the outset, even if it's a cheap one!

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