comet424 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 i trying to figure where you can setup notification when your drive runs into 0 diskspace i set the minum diskspace to 50GB so it will never go below 50GB that double the size of the biggest file makes no sense.. but i set it to 50GB so it cant go below it but it always goes below it.. my 1 share is for torrents, windows downloads etc.. and it spans across all the drives but it always ends up with 1.67kbs free and buggers up.. and is there a way if it goes below 50GB it will send me a text message saying downloads on disk # is gone below mininum disk space i tried to find a feature.. that it wont allow to go below 50gb but nothing whats the best way... and a way to send me notiifcations as i keep going into krusader and then move files from 1 disk to the next disk to move say 100gb or whatever to free up the drive Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 The free space CAN go below the value you set. It is about whether a drive can be selected fo a new file and what it does is stop a NEW file going to the drive when the value falls below that value, As an example if you had the valu set to 50GB, had 60Gb free and tried to write a 40GB file then this would be allowed and there would only be 20GB free after writing the file finished and the NEXT file would go another drive, If the file had been 70GB then the drive would have been selected and the write-failed because 70GB was more than the available space, Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 @itimpi ah ok so the min free space only protects if transfering a file that is bigger then the min space so it moves to the next drive that has more then the min space so then there is no protection from like bit torrent or windows Download as i download directly to my downloads folder on my array. like downloading raspberry pi images i use to play with the RPI if i have 20gb free and i downloading from windows to that share it starts off at 0 and then goes to like 1.9 gigs but if you do it enough times there is no protection as it always be below the min is there a way to protect it is there a way to Tell unraid... if min 20GB setting equals the Actual File Size of 20GB do not write to this drive anymore. so for a windows download that starts at 0 then increases as you download would bypass this protection is there a way to set 20GB (min size) =< Actual File Size do not write to even if the file is 100kilobites and is there a way to get notifications to tell me when actual file size goes below 20gb.. as the windows and torrents bypass 20gb min and i end up 1.67kb left on the disk is there a feature or would that be a request for future addons to unraid do not allow writes if it reaches the min size as i find out after i try to do a windows dl and it craps out afterwards but starts off normal and i tried the 20gb and 50gb.. but was hoping for a =< actual file size move to the next disk dont or least a notification to tell me by text message disk4 is going below min file size setting Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 You seem to have it backwards from what I can see? The Minimum Free Space setting works at the individual file level and is used when a file is first created (and at that point the code doing the drive selection makes no assumptions about how large that file is and has no access to that information). That is why the recommended value is for it to be at least bigger than the largest file you intend to download because you are not protected against trying to put a file that is larger than that on a drive - you are protected against smaller ones as they will fit. Once the free space on the a drive falls below that value a different drive is selected for the NEXT file (assuming other share settings such as Split Level allow this). If you are downloading multiple files in parallel then the Minimum Free Space needs to be bigger than the sum of the file sizes to avoid problems. if you are downloading directly to a drive rather than to a share you are by-passing the User Share system so the setting then is not relevant as it only applies to shares. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) well i kinda understand if user share is set to 20gb min if Disk 1 has 21GB and i copying a file 10GB it will copy it to Disk 1 but if the file is 25gb it will skip Disk 1 as it sees File is bigger then 10GB free on Disk 1 and goto the next disk that has least 25GB free but i figure also how it worked.. if i copying 10GB file 21GB free and min 20GB it will skip disk 1.. as i want at all times not to go below 20GB so it will skip it. and leave that 21 GB alone and ud only be able to copy 1GB to that disk 1 now see i get confused Torrents and Windows Downloads have no point of code if when i Direct Download to User Share Downloads from a Torrent or Windows download... and say the file is 25GB download and it chooses Disk 1 with 21GB free. how does unraid not write to Disk1 that it will become 25GB on drive of 21GB free it will crap out and fail.. as unraid cant know how big a 0bytes file will be as 0 bytes is less then 20GB mininum is that not correct? direct download of Torrent or Windows Download bypass's the Min File size when you direct download to a User share the min file size is only good for when you have an actual file that ur moving across the network.. not from the internet.. as a Windows or Torrent doesnt tell unraid.. this file thats about to download is going to be 25GB thats why i asked if there is a feature or future request that if the Min file size 20gb =< Actual file Size dont write but here i lost because doesn it work like if the Min size is 20GB but files copying is 1 GB files doesnt it still allow to copy 1 GB files to DISK 1 so then each file will be droping that DISK 1 19 18 17 GB and so on? and if so if i copy 5 1GB files Min 20gb actual is 21GB so doesnt unraid allow the copying to Disk 1 so now i have 16GB free is that not correct and then if i download from windows through interent say a 20GB file.. doesnt it choose Disk 1... disk 1 has 16GB free and that 20GB cant be downloaded it cuz unraid cant tell Internet whats the file size so it will crap out thats why i said about Actual Size vs Min size... so Min Size 20GB =< Actual Size 16GB do not write to this drive period 0 chances as i currently finding this a problem i have it set Downloads 20GB but its always 1.67KB or whatever in 1.xxKB it filles the drive and i use torrent or Windows download to download to the user Share or another issue if u have a couple torrents they all start at 0 and they were below the 20GB but as they are growing.. and they will expand 20GB min and i guess unraid cant now move that torrent to another drive i guess thats 1 thing unraid cant do i guess the only thing to work around this flaw is 1 Drive for your downloads not span it across multiple disks but you need to to have space free like always 500gb this way odds of filling it be slim and you dont run into the 1.67kb free and downloads keep failing in torrents or what not and then move the downloads drive to the array as those files be complete with ur mover program and i guess there is no Notifications to tell me Actual Size is now 1.67KB error in a text message.. or a text message "Warning Warnning Warning.. Actual Diskspace On Disk # is below Min Size.. Go Check Unraid" i guess there no feature like that ..as that be good a notification as warnings doesnt help and i cant get Warnings or anything to send me Text messages sorry if u covered it in your explanation my head doesnt wrap around things always.. and i have to explain it at times like a 5 yr old or one of the dummies bookes to understand.. have learning disabability dislexia.. so i may have explained things wrong to you but to me i understand it.. so please bare with me when i try to explain things Edited May 25, 2021 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 hours ago, comet424 said: but if the file is 25gb it will skip Disk 1 as it sees File is bigger then 10GB free on Disk 1 and goto the next disk that has least 25GB free Not quite it will go to the next disk that has at least 20GB free as that is the Min Free Space setting. If there is less that 25GB free the transfer will now fail due to running out of space. That is why it is recommended that the Min Free Space be bigger than the largest file so that once a disk is selected there is guaranteed to be enough space for the current file. There are no notifications along the lines you suggest - the closest is the disk warning levels that are not related to the Min Free Space setting. You can over-ride the global setting for any drive by clicking on it on the Main tab. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 ah ok so ya bit confused and my long message i guess was no easy answer or i was correct that direct downloads will always bypass the min file space.. as there is no actual file to transwer when you are direct downloading to the share.. so all in all.. best is to have like least 200gb or more per disk... or 1 single drive .. and well if you can add that feature i thought of for notifications to future requests be good and there is no Text SMS option for the notifications.. i dont use any of the options for notifications.. as then i can get a pop up text message saying array is running out of disk space warning at least not find out when i check on things a few days at a time.. but basiclly all in all.. make sure u have lots of disk space and have least min file space 20gb or 100gb for transfering files that way there is lot of diskspace im more a visual learner so i have to re read things several times with my dislexia /learning disability.. so bare with me that it doesnt snap in my head easilly like to yourself and others..... if i can see how it works like drawings etc i usually can understand it better then just words but i appreciate all the help so far 🙂 Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 oh and is there a break down a better explantion of the "split levels" i was looking for ? when you hover over the name under settings to explain each option in detail and does space invader have a video explaining the pros and cons of the min file size.. since he does some good videos and some other people do too for a detailed visual display Quote Link to comment
JonathanM Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 5 hours ago, comet424 said: there is no Text SMS option for the notifications.. Sure there is. Set up email notifications and send the email to your SMS. https://20somethingfinance.com/how-to-send-text-messages-sms-via-email-for-free/ Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 @jonathanm ok thank you ill check it out.. i know i tried using the Email hotmail to email myself but it never worked id never get an email that array wwas fine or not.. but ill try it..again maybe it was just a glitch i was having .. i appreciate all the helps 🙂 Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 14 hours ago, comet424 said: oh and is there a break down a better explantion of the "split levels" i was looking for ? when you hover over the name under settings to explain each option in detail and does space invader have a video explaining the pros and cons of the min file size.. since he does some good videos and some other people do too for a detailed visual display there is quite a detailed description of Split Levels here in the online documentation accessible via the ‘Manual’ link at the bottom of the UnRaid GUI. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 @itimpi so i trying to figure the link you sent and the directory optiions does it mean Automaticly Split only the top directory level = Level 1 (from the link) Automaticly Split only the top two directory level = Level 2 (from the link) Automaticly Split only the top three directory level = Level 3 (from the link) Automaticly Split only the top four directory level = Level 4 (from the link) Automaticly Split only the top five directory level = no lvel from link but i guess be like 4 but a 5th so the link didnt have Automaticly Split any directory as required <= what does this mean manual : do not automaticlly split directiors <= does this mean it writes a directory and all its contents to a single drive not span them? Quote Link to comment
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