High IDLE Power Consumption and no sleep mode on B550 ITX Board with Zen 3 Ryzen 5900x RTX 3060 64GB ECC RAM


xtiang7c0

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Hi everyone,

 

I did install a new UNRAID Server and can't go below 73 Watts IDLE with disks spun up.

 

Ryzen 5900x

Gigabyte Aorus B550i AX PRO Mainboard

2x32 GB Kingston ECC RAM

2x Samsung 980PRO 1TB NVME

2x Crucial MX500 1TB SSD

2x Seagate Exos x16 16TB

MSI RTX 3060

2 120mm fans

1 Arctic Liquid Freezer II - 240

600 Watt Power Supply (I remember it was a Be Quiet E6-600, can't see it as it is well built into the tower https://www.comstern.de/gfx90419org/sp_e6_600_DE-1-.pdf)

 

This is what I did:

installed and ran powertop --> Tunable "Good" now, Idle Stats only show C2 image.png.69d3806595e386f647f1abbbb059a69d.png 

 

I put Global s-state control to "enabled" and Power Supply IDLE control to "Low current IDLE" so C6 should work.

image.png.4d63bfaf4c6a0396fd2ee5f77a9f8d9f.png

 

BIOS is F13 from July 2021.

 

PCIe ASPM Mode -> "L1 Entry" to save power with the graphics card.

 

When I reboot the server these plugins are running.

 

image.png.00accb334d80254f496704233376bac6.png

 

Issue 1 - IDLE consumption:

After reboot with Array spun up: 73 Watts

Turning on Windows 10 VM (as  vdisk on one of the NVMEs) with RTX 3060 passthrough --> 80 Watts

Turning of the VM --> 80 Watts (it will not go back to 73 Watts and I thought running the VM will save energy?)

 

Issue 2 - sleep mode:

When I hit the sleep button, there spins up again right away. I only have wake on LAN in the BIOS which I want to use and keep turned on. I deinstalled the Dynamix Cache Directories Plugin but it did not change the behavior.

 

What can I do?

Change the 600 Watt Power Supply. I understand that this can be an issue but I only have a 300 Watts power supply Cougar A300 as a substitute and would need an idea what to buy. This seems to be not the only potential here.

 

Any help is appreciated.


Cheers

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added power supply name and data sheet
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Interesting. When I was running the setup listed below, my power consumption was as low as 60W idle, with disks spun down. No particular bios tuning for power savings tho.

 

3700X

B450 ATX

16GB

2x 2TB SATA cache

3x 4TB WD Red

550W Gold

RTX 2070

2x 140mm fans

2x 120mm fans

 

Hopefully someone else with a similar setup pitches in because I don't want to be the party pooper saying the consumption u are seeing does, to me at least, not seem out of the ordinary.

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I do not see a problem, in fact I would love to be at 73 watts.   I typically idle at 110-120 watts, drives spun up always.

 

R7-2700x

MSI Performance Gaming AMD X470

Samsung 500gb 970 EVO - M.2 NVMe

Quadro P400

LSI 9207-8i

32 gb of ram

6-HGST Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB

1-WD 1tb 7200 RPM for CCTV

3-Noctua 120mm case fans

2-Noctua 80mm case fans

Noctua NH-U12S Redux CPU cooler with 2 fans

ICY DOCK 3X 3.5 Inch

 

Jellyfin and Shinobi Pro are always on, no VM's running constantly.

 

 

 

 

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On 7/23/2021 at 12:01 PM, xtiang7c0 said:

Hi everyone,

 

I did install a new UNRAID Server and can't go below 73 Watts IDLE with disks spun up.

 

Ryzen 5900x

Gigabyte Aorus B550i AX PRO Mainboard

2x32 GB Kingston ECC RAM

2x Samsung 980PRO 1TB NVME

2x Crucial MX500 1TB SSD

2x Seagate Exos x16 16TB

MSI RTX 3060

2 120mm fans

1 Arctic Liquid Freezer II - 240

600 Watt Power Supply (I remember it was a Be Quiet E6-600, can't see it as it is well built into the tower https://www.comstern.de/gfx90419org/sp_e6_600_DE-1-.pdf)

 

This is what I did:

installed and ran powertop --> Tunable "Good" now, Idle Stats only show C2 image.png.69d3806595e386f647f1abbbb059a69d.png 

 

I put Global s-state control to "enabled" and Power Supply IDLE control to "Low current IDLE" so C6 should work.

image.png.4d63bfaf4c6a0396fd2ee5f77a9f8d9f.png

 

BIOS is F13 from July 2021.

 

PCIe ASPM Mode -> "L1 Entry" to save power with the graphics card.

 

When I reboot the server these plugins are running.

 

image.png.00accb334d80254f496704233376bac6.png

 

Issue 1 - IDLE consumption:

After reboot with Array spun up: 73 Watts

Turning on Windows 10 VM (as  vdisk on one of the NVMEs) with RTX 3060 passthrough --> 80 Watts

Turning of the VM --> 80 Watts (it will not go back to 73 Watts and I thought running the VM will save energy?)

 

Issue 2 - sleep mode:

When I hit the sleep button, there spins up again right away. I only have wake on LAN in the BIOS which I want to use and keep turned on. I deinstalled the Dynamix Cache Directories Plugin but it did not change the behavior.

 

What can I do?

Change the 600 Watt Power Supply. I understand that this can be an issue but I only have a 300 Watts power supply Cougar A300 as a substitute and would need an idea what to buy. This seems to be not the only potential here.

 

Any help is appreciated.


Cheers

 

I know this is ancient but I have the same motherboard with a 5800x3d.

 

Did you manage to get far on this?

 

I actually don't have ASPM on, it's disabled by default but my 1660Ti idles at 10-12w in P8 with the forcing idle user script running on boot.

 

What about CPPC etc, did you change anything there?

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I have similar PC with lighter CPU

Couple of months ago I built my first fanless desktop PC:

- AMD Ryzen 5600G (6 cores, 12 threads, 65W TDP)

- Gigabyte B550i AORUS PRO AX (rev 1.3 with Wi-Fi 6E)

- 1x 16GB RAM DDR4 Kingston

- 1x m.2 SSD 2TB Samsung 980 Pro

- 1x SATA 2TB Crucial MX500

- PSU: Akasa 150W 12V (AK-PD150-02KEU) + PicoPSU InterTech 160W

- Everything is in cool new fanless case from AKASA - Maxwell Pro.

 

👆 idle power consumption in Win10 (with enabled power saving settings in power management: Start , and select Settings  > System > Power & sleep > Additional power settings)

Also in BIOS I enabled everything related to power save and I started with light undervolting (CPU VCORE: -0,030V, Dynamic VCORE SOC: -0.030V, DRAM: 1.15V)

 

Power consumption In Windows 10 (with connected 2K HDMI LCD, USB keyboard, USB mouse):

12-15W idle

️80-100W full load (~60W CPU only load)

 

I haven't tried Unraid or Linux on it (It should have better idle power consumption as a linux headless server).

 

Photos:

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Photos:

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here is power consumption on the DC side with another 15V laptop PSU + DC-DC converter to 12V.

 

 

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On 2/14/2024 at 8:13 PM, bagican said:

I have similar PC with lighter CPU

Couple of months ago I built my first fanless desktop PC:

- AMD Ryzen 5600G (6 cores, 12 threads, 65W TDP)

- Gigabyte B550i AORUS PRO AX (rev 1.3 with Wi-Fi 6E)

- 1x 16GB RAM DDR4 Kingston

- 1x m.2 SSD 2TB Samsung 980 Pro

- 1x SATA 2TB Crucial MX500

- PSU: Akasa 150W 12V (AK-PD150-02KEU) + PicoPSU InterTech 160W

- Everything is in cool new fanless case from AKASA - Maxwell Pro.

 

👆 idle power consumption in Win10 (with enabled power saving settings in power management: Start , and select Settings  > System > Power & sleep > Additional power settings)

Also in BIOS I enabled everything related to power save and I started with light undervolting (CPU VCORE: -0,030V, Dynamic VCORE SOC: -0.030V, DRAM: 1.15V)

 

Power consumption In Windows 10 (with connected 2K HDMI LCD, USB keyboard, USB mouse):

12-15W idle

️80-100W full load (~60W CPU only load)

 

I haven't tried Unraid or Linux on it (It should have better idle power consumption as a linux headless server).

 

Photos:

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Photos:

fanless-b550i.thumb.jpg.75138337c2773c485215b087a245d580.jpg15i748u1zxtb1.gif.54b6f13b07b5abd2e4b9437e37e6f868.gif

 

here is power consumption on the DC side with another 15V laptop PSU + DC-DC converter to 12V.

 

 

 

Mine actually idles at 70w with HDDs spun up. 60w spun down. I was really hoping it would be closer to 20-30w. I'm already running CO at -30 (was fully tested before when used it as my gaming machine) as well PBO Limited to not exceed specific wattage. You don't really have an HDD in there as well which helps build up.

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