domrockt Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 It is a wierd windows Problem, i can use my APU with HDMI Output with an Linux docker, no Problemo but not with windows… Quote Link to comment
eatoff Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 3:00 AM, domrockt said: It is a wierd windows Problem, i can use my APU with HDMI Output with an Linux docker, no Problemo but not with windows… Have you seen the beta Bios for the x300? https://botflakes.de/asrockwiki/docs/bios/deskmini/ Says "It contains a fix for VMWare ESXi". Not sure exactly what that means but could be fixed for virtualisation? According to this it also resolved his Linux gaming issues - Quote Link to comment
domrockt Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) ASRock X300M-STX American Megatrends International, LLC., Version P1.70B BIOS dated: Mon 30 Aug 2021 12:00:00 AM CEST yes i saw that and installed itin an instant but stilll i cant passtrough the IGPU i have error 43s but i see there seems to be a 1.72 Bios in the wild. i need to look at that Edit quick and diy did not work, next is a new VM with seabios Edit okay so far when using Seabios win 10 and passtrough just the GPU and use the here provided VBIOS i can see the driver in DeviceManager without any Error Code even after reboots BUT i cant use the GPU in windows Display settings i cant use it as an accelerator nor can i get any Picture over HDMI or Displayport. i KNOW that the HDMI is Passtroughable because i can use it with this Steam Headless docker Edited February 9, 2022 by domrockt Quote Link to comment
techhit Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I think it's very motherboard specific as to whether you'll have luck getting the onboard GPU working, and whether the motherboard is able to make use of IOMMU groups and being able to override them. I have a Minisforum HX90 running a Ryzen 9 5900HX cpu. I set the PCIe ACS Override to Both and just selected my GPU and HDMI audio device to bind. Here's a post to my config: I downloaded the Graphics BIOS in that same thread. The other thing you should do is set the multifunction='on' for the GPU and HDMI audio device as per Finally, I had to apply a fix within the VM to ensure that the GPU gets properly released as per Quote Link to comment
eatoff Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 2:23 PM, techhit said: Finally, I had to apply a fix within the VM to ensure that the GPU gets properly released as per So did you get it all working? You can use the GPU in windows? And can output via HDMI? Quote Link to comment
domrockt Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 @techhit could you please post an Picture of your system devices? i have an feeling that your IGPU is not on the same PCIe as your USB Controller and so forth. Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I was able to get my 5700G to pass through, I'm on a Gigabyte X570 Gaming X I did have to use SeaBios and Q35, along with the bios posted above: Here are the IOMMU groups my machine posted with: IOMMU group 0: [1022:1632] 00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge IOMMU group 1: [1022:1633] 00:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge IOMMU group 2: [1022:1634] 00:01.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge IOMMU group 3: [1022:1632] 00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge IOMMU group 4: [1022:1632] 00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge IOMMU group 5: [1022:1635] 00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Internal PCIe GPP Bridge to Bus IOMMU group 6: [1022:1635] 00:08.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Internal PCIe GPP Bridge to Bus IOMMU group 7: [1022:790b] 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 51) [1022:790e] 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51) IOMMU group 8: [1022:166a] 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 166a [1022:166b] 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 166b [1022:166c] 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 166c [1022:166d] 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 166d [1022:166e] 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 166e [1022:166f] 00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 166f [1022:1670] 00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1670 [1022:1671] 00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 1671 IOMMU group 9: [10de:10c3] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3] (rev a2) [10de:0be3] 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) IOMMU group 10: [1022:57ad] 02:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Switch Upstream IOMMU group 11: [1022:57a3] 03:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse PCIe GPP Bridge IOMMU group 12: [1022:57a4] 03:08.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:1485] 05:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse Reserved SPP [1022:149c] 05:00.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse USB 3.0 Host Controller Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1c4f:0002 SiGma Micro Keyboard TRACER Gamma Ivory Bus 001 Device 005: ID 04f2:0939 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd USB Optical Mouse Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub [1022:149c] 05:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse USB 3.0 Host Controller Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 002: ID 048d:8297 Integrated Technology Express, Inc. ITE Device(8595) Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub IOMMU group 13: [1022:57a4] 03:09.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:7901] 06:00.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 51) IOMMU group 14: [1022:57a4] 03:0a.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:7901] 07:00.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 51) [5:0:0:0] disk ATA Samsung SSD 840 5B0Q /dev/sdb 128GB [9:0:0:0] disk ATA ST18000NM000J-2T SN02 /dev/sdc 18.0TB [10:0:0:0] disk ATA ST18000NM000J-2T SN02 /dev/sdd 18.0TB IOMMU group 15: [10ec:8168] 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16) IOMMU group 16: [1002:1638] 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cezanne (rev c8) IOMMU group 17: [1002:1637] 08:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 1637 IOMMU group 18: [1022:15df] 08:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) Platform Security Processor IOMMU group 19: [1022:1639] 08:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir USB 3.1 This controller is bound to vfio, connected USB devices are not visible. IOMMU group 20: [1022:1639] 08:00.4 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir USB 3.1 Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 008 Device 002: ID 090c:1000 Silicon Motion, Inc. - Taiwan (formerly Feiya Technology Corp.) Flash Drive IOMMU group 21: [1022:15e3] 08:00.6 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) HD Audio Controller IOMMU group 22: [1022:7901] 09:00.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 81) IOMMU group 23: [1022:7901] 09:00.1 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 81) You can see the APU and Audio device are in their own groups 16/17: IOMMU group 16: [1002:1638] 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cezanne (rev c8) IOMMU group 17: [1002:1637] 08:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 1637 I also passed one set of USB 3.1 ports so I can plug whatever I need into those two and get them in the VM. I did have to setup the BIOS to force APU on, as well as set the GPU initialization to use the card in slot 1 instead of built in. My long term setup will be to use an old 1050ti for unraid, pass that to Plex, and use the APU to run a Windows 10 VM. It appears to be working so far, make sure you install the correct drives from AMD though, as I got the wrong set the first time I was clicking too fast. 1 Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I ran into an interesting problem that I cannot seem to figure out. I passed the AMD audio device, but I cannot get it to pass audio out through HDMI. This works when its setup bare metal with Windows. I see the device, I passed it, shows up in device manager, but says disconnected when you look at it. Quote Link to comment
tampano Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Forgive the absolute newbie questions, but this seems the more relevant thread I found so far... ...is it possible to perform video card passthrough with a rig made ONLY by a 5600G and NO video card installed in the PCI slot? I'm dipping my toes in VM's and trying many things but so far I can only run a VM on VNC...the very moment I start fiddling with video passthrough i think I'm missing some important bits of knowledge and maybe all the tutorials I've found take for granted things that are not that obvious 🙂 So, again, the main questions here are 1) can I do GPU passthrough having only the integrated graphic of a 5600G? 2) am i supposed to get the video out of the HDMI? I'm asking because that seems to be taken by the Unraid CLI 3) (or 2bis) - how do i know passthrough is successful, other than the HDMI out at point 2? Can I still use VNC or RDP to get to a machine which had a successful passthrough? Thanks for your patience Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 hours ago, tampano said: Forgive the absolute newbie questions, but this seems the more relevant thread I found so far... ...is it possible to perform video card passthrough with a rig made ONLY by a 5600G and NO video card installed in the PCI slot? I'm dipping my toes in VM's and trying many things but so far I can only run a VM on VNC...the very moment I start fiddling with video passthrough i think I'm missing some important bits of knowledge and maybe all the tutorials I've found take for granted things that are not that obvious 🙂 So, again, the main questions here are 1) can I do GPU passthrough having only the integrated graphic of a 5600G? 2) am i supposed to get the video out of the HDMI? I'm asking because that seems to be taken by the Unraid CLI 3) (or 2bis) - how do i know passthrough is successful, other than the HDMI out at point 2? Can I still use VNC or RDP to get to a machine which had a successful passthrough? Thanks for your patience Yes, just look for threads talking about running unraid headless. I've done this before, but it can be annoying if you run into issues, as obviously you loose access to the console if something goes wrong enough that SSH is inaccessible. Quote Link to comment
mysticcfx Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 On 4/26/2022 at 10:13 AM, onyxdrew said: I was able to get my 5700G to pass through, I'm on a Gigabyte X570 Gaming X I did have to use SeaBios and Q35, along with the bios posted above: Could you list your motherboard BIOS version? I've been trying to replicate. I'm able to get HDMI output (which was more than my old board) but it's really only text output. Once it has to render an OS (Windows Install or Ubuntu live environment) it will fail and I'll get lines or a black screen. Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 This board had a pretty new CMOS, but I couldn't get it to post with the new CPU. I upgraded to the latest: Here you go: Quote Link to comment
mysticcfx Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 12 hours ago, onyxdrew said: This board had a pretty new CMOS, but I couldn't get it to post with the new CPU. I upgraded to the latest: Here you go: Would you be able to share your bios profile and possibly your syslinux config? Feel like I'm hitting my head against a wall using the exact same config with the settings you stated. Really wanted to make use of the 5700g apu for a windows environment. Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) I didn't have to mess with syslinux, though I tried the acpi flag when trying to get temp sensors to show up, those still don't work, hoping they will with unraid 6.10 and newer kernel. The bios settings are going to be hard to record, the only thing I know I did for sure was to setup the INIT display to be SLOT 3 (originally SLOT 1) instead of built in GPU, as well as setting to Forced instead of Auto for the APU, as one of the big things I was trying to save PCIE lanes, as the APU only uses 4lanes, and I moved my GPU to SLOT 3 which is also 4lanes. I am only using it to transcode, so I don't want to waste 16 lanes on it out of 24 total. I have two NVME drives for cache, 4 each, plus chipset 4, plus APU 4, 10gb fiber card 4, extra GPU 4, 24 total... Hopefully that's how the CMOS is actually allocating at least, not sure how you check that. That said, I wasn't seeing the APU port initializing until I set the APU to forced, though that was back when I didn't have anything on the HDMI port when I was booting, as I tested the setup with one monitor, now I have a monitor on both GPUs (I would move monitor back and forth after booting and validating console messages). I haven't tried disabling that, but also don't see any reason, as I do want that port to come online even if there is no monitor connected. I will try to remember to look at those settings next time I reboot, but not planning to do that any time soon. Edited May 17, 2022 by onyxdrew Quote Link to comment
mysticcfx Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 hours ago, onyxdrew said: I didn't have to mess with syslinux, though I tried the acpi flag when trying to get temp sensors to show up, those still don't work, hoping they will with unraid 6.10 and newer kernel. The bios settings are going to be hard to record, the only thing I know I did for sure was to setup the INIT display to be SLOT 3 (originally SLOT 1) instead of built in GPU, as well as setting to Forced instead of Auto for the APU, as one of the big things I was trying to save PCIE lanes, as the APU only uses 4lanes, and I moved my GPU to SLOT 3 which is also 4lanes. I am only using it to transcode, so I don't want to waste 16 lanes on it out of 24 total. I have two NVME drives for cache, 4 each, plus chipset 4, plus APU 4, 10gb fiber card 4, extra GPU 4, 24 total... Hopefully that's how the CMOS is actually allocating at least, not sure how you check that. That said, I wasn't seeing the APU port initializing until I set the APU to forced, though that was back when I didn't have anything on the HDMI port when I was booting, as I tested the setup with one monitor, now I have a monitor on both GPUs (I would move monitor back and forth after booting and validating console messages). I haven't tried disabling that, but also don't see any reason, as I do want that port to come online even if there is no monitor connected. I will try to remember to look at those settings next time I reboot, but not planning to do that any time soon. Completely understand. If you're able, just hit save profile under the save & exit tab to save as a file to a hdd then post here. Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Ah, never used that profile export option... interested to try that. I'll let you know, I actually will be messing with it next week as I have different GPU to put in there. Quote Link to comment
mysticcfx Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, onyxdrew said: Ah, never used that profile export option... interested to try that. I'll let you know, I actually will be messing with it next week as I have different GPU to put in there. Thanks! I'm not sure WHAT my issue is related to because I went back to my old board (Asrock B450M Pro4) and was able to get display output on an ubuntu livecd but with nomodeset kernel flag and it would just produce graphical errors similar to the X570 Gaming X. Display would recognize output was active but no actual image using Win10 install CD or the typical Ubuntu live environment without the nomodeset flag. Still not sure what it is but going to stick to gaming on the hypervisor output for now. I did want to ask if you got your 5700g though direct retail or was it possibly an OEM pull. Edited May 17, 2022 by mysticcfx Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I bought a retail box 5700G from microcenter. I was actually using a ASROCK B450M PRO4 as well before this, I also tested a X399 TR 2920 combo. Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) Edited May 18, 2022 by onyxdrew Quote Link to comment
mysticcfx Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) You may want to edit out your serial number. I was able to get the same results (graphical artifacts, but grub output is visible) through BIOS config changes on my B450M Pro4. Are you saying you were able to use the APU for passthrough on the B450M Pro4? The only things I could think I have wrong is the rom (which I'm using the same as Cezanne.rom posted on page 2 of this thread) or my CPU is faulty or has different microcodes. Did you get yours early into the launch or sometime after? Edited May 18, 2022 by mysticcfx Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I never ran any VMs when I was using the B450, I also had a Ryzen 3600 in there. I've only had the 5700G for a short while, bought it 2022-04-18. The X570 board I've had for a long time, I got that when the 2nd gen Ryzen first came out, had a 2700x in it, then 5800x, now this 5700g (which surprisingly didn't post even tho 5800x worked fine). Quote Link to comment
CobraPL Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 On 4/26/2022 at 4:13 PM, onyxdrew said: I was able to get my 5700G to pass through, I'm on a Gigabyte X570 Gaming X I did have to use SeaBios and Q35, along with the bios posted above: Hi, I have Renoir GPU. Where did you get working BIOS for AMD APU? I am VERY interested. MANY people have problems (actually you are first one who succeeded). Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 tola5 posted it to onedrive on page2. I used his, as I also wasn't able to get it exported, even though I've done that in the past for other GPUs. I might try that again, as I still don't have a way to get audio through HDMI, so I've been using a USB audio controller. I would really like HDMI audio, since I use a reciever to convert my audio signal to balanced XLR. Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 FYI, I upgraded to 6.10.0 last night, and my VM no longer boots. Even without the GPU attached Windows BSOD and says inaccessible boot device. I'm going to rebuild today on Windows 11 I think and try that. Quote Link to comment
onyxdrew Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Maybe there is a step I did before that I'm missing now, but at least with the new release 6.10 I cannot get any config to boot and work with APU. I tried exactly how I had it with Q35-5.1, I tried the latest Q35.6-2 as well as i440fx-6.2. I tried Seabios like before, I tried Win 11 with on QVMF-TPM, nothing working now at all, fresh OS load each time. It's crazy how temperamental this stuff is, good thing I pretty much gave up on this being an actual usable thing, as even when it worked, the performance wasn't good enough. Quote Link to comment
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