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Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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Maybe @ich777 can shed some light on this?

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8 hours ago, flyize said:

Maybe @ich777 can shed some light on this?

Don't know if I can... :D

 

9 hours ago, flaggart said:

Running Plex with a single transcode, hits the CPU, no GPU usage:

This seems to be Alder Lake P mobile chip, please execute this from a Unraid terminal and reboot afterwards:

mkdir -p /boot/config/modprobe.d
echo "options i915 enable_guc=3" > /boot/config/modprobe.d/i915.conf

 

If that doesn't work please provide a bit more information about your setup, what Docker container, a screenshot from the Docker template, did you do the necessary steps for Plex with the Claim?

Thankyou both for your help with this so far.

 

@ich777 I created i915.conf and rebooted. No change. Here is the docker config, I am using linuxserver however I also tried the official docker with the same result:

 

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I don't know what the necessary steps for Plex with the claim are. The Plex server webconfig shows it is claimed under my Plex account, which has PlexPass.

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3 minutes ago, flaggart said:

I don't know what the necessary steps for Plex with the claim are. The Plex server webconfig shows it is claimed under my Plex account, which has PlexPass.

I don't know but at least from what I know you have to put in the claim, not sure if this has changed. However it is described in the variable from the PLEX_CLAIM in your screenshot what to do.

 

Can you maybe try the official container from Plex and see if that is working?

40 minutes ago, ich777 said:

Can you maybe try the official container from Plex and see if that is working?

 

Tried with 3 versions now. I used the PLEX_CLAIM method, same result.

 

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42 minutes ago, flaggart said:

Tried with 3 versions now. I used the PLEX_CLAIM method, same result.

You maybe have to wait for the next beta release from Unraid with a newer Kernel, that's my only advice that I can give you currently.

That sucks. But thanks for helping.

  • 2 weeks later...
On 5/3/2023 at 11:03 AM, Stixbnr32 said:

I have a i7 13700 with RX 7900XT in it.

 

I use the iGPU for transcoding and 7900xt in a VM.  After some tuning I now get similar performance as my bare metal 5800x3d.  Was ALOT of mucking around/tuning.

 

I have assigned all P cores other than 0-1HT but would be nice to pin Unraid to E-Cores and use those 2 P cores in the VM seems like a waste of processing power.

 

Now wondering if its worth pinning some e-cores to VM but not sure if they will be used correctly or not.  To be honest maybe ill just leave as is until the build is stable/working.

 

Now to sell my 5800x3d RIG with RTX 3070 :P.

 

Using the latest 6.12rc4 build with the 6.1 Linux Kernel was key to getting it all going.

 

I am in no means an "intel" guy I always buy AMD but the iGPU transcoding means i could remove my T600 Quadro and sell my RTX 3070.  I have tested AV1 transcodes on plex too and it works fine with iGPU so future proofed there.  So big win for my first intel build since Gen 1 Ryzen.  If i was to build a new baremetal system it be a 7800x3d all day.

 

So does that mean the VM has 14 cores - albeit 7 x 2 HT ones? If they are presented as individual cores to the VM, what happens if it tries to use a HT pair at the same time, th performance will tank on one won't it as only the host knows they are a HT pair? I've never quite understood this with hyperthreading...

 

I have a configuration using an Intel Core i7-12700K Alder Lake CPU with an ASUS Z690-P Prime DDR5 motherboard. I am just getting ready to move my old unRaid server to this configuration. Seeing the posts about Alder Lake still floating around, am I making a mistake moving my unRaid to this configuration? Should I also invest in a Nvidia GPU to avoid problems?

Everything, including transcoding, works just fine for me. 

Are you using Intel or Nvidia for transcoding?

Intel of course.

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On 1/23/2024 at 6:11 PM, ich777 said:

You maybe have to wait for the next beta release from Unraid with a newer Kernel, that's my only advice that I can give you currently.

I have tested today unraid with kernel 6.7.5 and still have same issue :(

 

Intel Alderlake_p (Gen12) @ /dev/dri/card0 shows in intel_gpu_top and in plex settings it is selectable, but it is not used on transcode :(

Just now, flaggart said:

I have tested today unraid with kernel 6.7.5 and still have same issue :(

There is no official release out there with Kernel 6.7.5, can't help with third party Kernels.

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@ich777 Hello again, I wonder if you would be willing to revisit this issue now that the latest beta includes kernel 6.8.12?

 

I have a fresh install of 7.0.0 beta1 on the Framework Intel i5-1240P motherboard. I have installed Intel GPU Top and GPU statistics. The GPU shows as Alderlake_p (Gen12) @ /dev/dr/card0 and is also listed as available in the Plex transcoder configuration. I have tried setting i915.enable_guc=3 as a kernel parameter, but alas Plex will only use the CPU for transcoding.

 

Thanks for any help.

7 minutes ago, flaggart said:

I have a fresh install of 7.0.0 beta1 on the Framework Intel i5-1240P motherboard. I have installed Intel GPU Top and GPU statistics. The GPU shows as Alderlake_p (Gen12) @ /dev/dr/card0 and is also listed as available in the Plex transcoder configuration. I have tried setting i915.enable_guc=3 as a kernel parameter, but alas Plex will only use the CPU for transcoding.

You don't have to pass anything to the Kernel command line anymore.

What Docker container are you using? The official Plex container is able to deal with 14th gen Intel AFAIK since it's using VAAPI.

 

I really can't help here since I don't have suitable hardware, sorry.

...but as said above I have multiple reports that 14th gen Desktop CPUs are working fine and also a few reports of Mobile platforms like your CPU is based on.

I am using the official Plex docker. I have tried with and without the kernel parameter. In the plex logs, there are errors stating "Failed to initialise VAAPI connection: -1 (unknown libva error)".

29 minutes ago, flaggart said:

@ich777

I have installed Intel GPU Top and GPU statistics. The GPU shows as Alderlake_p (Gen12) @ /dev/dr/card0 and is also listed as available in the Plex transcoder configuration. I have tried setting i915.enable_guc=3 as a kernel parameter, but alas Plex will only use the CPU for transcoding.

 

If it shows in Plex under the Transcoder tab, then it should be working fine. You don't need to set any kernel params. All you need to do is have "dev/dri/" passed as a device to the container which it seems like you have done. (If you haven't, make a new DEVICE PATH (not host path!) in the container and use (no quotes) "dev/dri/" as the value). 

 

Also just to make sure, you are subscribed as a Plex Pass user, correct? Either a lifetime or monthly membership? 

4 minutes ago, flaggart said:

I am using the official Plex docker. I have tried with and without the kernel parameter. In the plex logs, there are errors stating "Failed to initialise VAAPI connection: -1 (unknown libva error)".

Have you tried a different build? The official build was nothing but issues for me. I moved to binhex's build 2.5 years ago and have had zero issues since. 

Thankyou for the suggestions but unfortunately I've tried these ideas. I have tried binhex and official. I have added the claim token inside the docker config and I am signed into plex in the webgui. I have lifetime plexpass.

Most people move from

Binhex’s Plex build due to issues. 7.x works with 12700k and Plex Official Docker. No iGPU SR-IOV for now. 

On 7/1/2024 at 11:52 AM, wuudogg said:

Most people move from

Binhex’s Plex build due to issues. 7.x works with 12700k and Plex Official Docker. No iGPU SR-IOV for now. 

What sort of issues are people encountering with binhex's Plex container?

29 minutes ago, talonserver said:

What sort of issues are people encountering with binhex's Plex container?

They were transcoding related over a year ago and a flareup about a month ago after an update. I subscribe to the "If it ain't broke" philosophy.  If you aren't having a problem then stay with what you've got. Stuff happens and I use binhex containers for other things. Really appreciative of all the work.  Plex Official does seem to continue to be reported as stable.  Most issues people report are pebkac with passthrough and/or new hardware integration that is behind where unraid kernel is.

I keep seeing things popping up on this subject. I am getting ready to move my unRaid server to an Alder Lake based system. I am running the latest version of linuxusers/plex and version 6.12.6 of unRaid. No NVIDIA only Intel, and no transcoding.

 

Anything I need to do special for the transition? 

 

 

7 minutes ago, dchamb said:

I keep seeing things popping up on this subject. I am getting ready to move my unRaid server to an Alder Lake based system. I am running the latest version of linuxusers/plex and version 6.12.6 of unRaid. No NVIDIA only Intel, and no transcoding.

 

Anything I need to do special for the transition? 

 

 

Gone from Intel to AMD and now back to Intel.  Works great.

 

Backup Flash

Remove all CPU Pinning or isolation.

Remove anything you’ve passed through IOMMU to VMs. GPUs etc.

Screenshot Main with the locations and disk assignments.

Reboot once at least before you shutdown for your upgrade.

Backup Flash Again.

Then shutdown for your upgrade.

 

 

 

 

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