ChatNoir Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, okkies said: i heard it, but didnt hear where i can use it now, right ? AFAIK, it will be available on stable, possibly on a RC before that (not RC1 though). Quote Link to comment
okkies Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 @ich777 is there any way i can get my grubby little hands on the release version earlier ? Quote Link to comment
ich777 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 @ich777 is there any way i can get my grubby little hands on the release version earlier ?Please wait a few more days...Sent from my C64 1 Quote Link to comment
esaru Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Hey, I followed the swTPM guide (link below) and installed Windows 11. Could someone explain what parts I need to undo (and how) when the new unraid version hits and we have this functionality built in? I don't have Bitlocker activated. Really don't want to break anything or leave some problematic stuff behind. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/swtpm-unraid-zoltan-repasi/ Quote Link to comment
ich777 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, esaru said: Hey, I followed the swTPM guide (link below) and installed Windows 11. Could someone explain what parts I need to undo (and how) when the new unraid version hits and we have this functionality built in? I don't have Bitlocker activated. Really don't want to break anything or leave some problematic stuff behind. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/swtpm-unraid-zoltan-repasi/ You have to undo basically everything you've done, change the BIOS type to OVMF-TPM in the VM template and then reactivate Windows again. But I really can't tell if it is working properly after you did this since I've not tested this and that is just a guess. That's why I don't recommend installing through this method and wait for the official way. Quote Link to comment
svh1985 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I guess people just want to get a bit more info (timelines) on when the swTPM unraid version will be released. If it's indeed just a few days like you mentioned, then it is indeed better and easier to wait. But if it's weeks, or even months, than I can image some people can't wait. 31 minutes ago, ich777 said: You have to undo basically everything you've done, change the BIOS type to OVMF-TPM in the VM template and then reactivate Windows again. But I really can't tell if it is working properly after you did this since I've not tested this and that is just a guess. That's why I don't recommend installing through this method and wait for the official way. Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, svh1985 said: But if it's weeks, or even months, than I can image some people can't wait. It is going to be part of 6.10.0 rc2 so hopefully that is not far off. 1 Quote Link to comment
ich777 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I guess people just want to get a bit more info (timelines) on when the swTPM unraid version will be released. If it's indeed just a few days like you mentioned, then it is indeed better and easier to wait. But if it's weeks, or even months, than I can image some people can't wait. As @itimpi said it will be part of 6.10.0-RC2 and I only can recommend to wait a few more days.Sent from my C64 1 Quote Link to comment
esaru Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, ich777 said: You have to undo basically everything you've done, change the BIOS type to OVMF-TPM in the VM template and then reactivate Windows again. But I really can't tell if it is working properly after you did this since I've not tested this and that is just a guess. That's why I don't recommend installing through this method and wait for the official way. Ok so this is what I need to do? 1. Remove the swTPM binaries from /boot/extra. Do I need to uninstall them somehow? If so, how? 2. Delete the script (or at least change it so that it doesn't run at startup). Do I need to undo any changes made by the script manually or is this solved by just rebooting? 3. Undo the changes in the VM xml. I'm not really worried about any effects on the VM itself. I can easily just do a clean install if needed. I just want my unraid install to be pristine Quote Link to comment
ich777 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Ok so this is what I need to do? 1. Remove the swTPM binaries from /boot/extra. Do I need to uninstall them somehow? If so, how? 2. Delete the script (or at least change it so that it doesn't run at startup). Do I need to undo any changes made by the script manually or is this solved by just rebooting? 3. Undo the changes in the VM xml. I'm not really worried about any effects on the VM itself. I can easily just do a clean install if needed. I just want my unraid install to be pristine Yes, just undo everything.As said a reactivation from Windows may be necessary.Sent from my C64 2 Quote Link to comment
ghost82 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, esaru said: 1. Remove the swTPM binaries from /boot/extra. Just remove 5 minutes ago, esaru said: 2. Delete the script (or at least change it so that it doesn't run at startup). Do I need to undo any changes made by the script manually or is this solved by just rebooting? Just delete, script changes are resetted at boot 5 minutes ago, esaru said: 3. Undo the changes in the VM xml. Yes 2 Quote Link to comment
esaru Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, ghost82 said: Just remove Just delete, script changes are resetted at boot Yes Thank you! Some people mentioned that this guide breaks their dockers. Could this be the reason that my jackett docker randomly stopped working? It boots up alright, log seems fine but I can't access the webui. Quote Link to comment
ich777 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Thank you! Some people mentioned that this guide breaks their dockers. Could this be the reason that my jackett docker randomly stopped working? It boots up alright, log seems fine but I can't access the webui.Maybe...I haven't looked into what the script does.Also don't unterstand why this is even needed.As said I would recommend to revert the changes, maybe reboot unRAID and wait for RC2. Sent from my C64 Quote Link to comment
NLS Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Hope it releases before the end of month, because last allowed Win11 install (non-TPM) expires 31 of Oct. I am not sure if I can risk going to RC2. Quote Link to comment
ich777 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, NLS said: I am not sure if I can risk going to RC2. You can always downgrade if something is not working as expected. Quote Link to comment
NLS Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 hours ago, ich777 said: You can always downgrade if something is not working as expected. No I can't. I deleted downgrade files. Quote Link to comment
ich777 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 No I can't. I deleted downgrade files. Should have been more precise, I was talking about unRAID, not Windows, because you've said you don't know if you go the RC way.Sent from my C64 Quote Link to comment
NLS Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ich777 said: Should have been more precise, I was talking about unRAID, not Windows, because you've said you don't know if you go the RC way. Sent from my C64 Right. Quote Link to comment
Norbs Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) I don't understand why can't UNRAID release a TPM patch for 6.9.2. Win 11 is out for a while and the requirements have been known long before that. We are being told to wait just a few more days for weeks. I don't care about any of the changes in the 6.10 but this seems quite significant Edited October 21, 2021 by Norbs Quote Link to comment
ghost82 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Norbs said: I don't understand why can't UNRAID release a TPM patch for 6.9.2. Win 11 is out for a while and the requirements have been known long before that. Because this is not a security issue but a feature addition. What is mandatory for you (running win11) should not be mandatory for others. For me running mac os is mandatory, so should I ask to unraid to include a patch with the opencore bootloader?I think no... Moreover if you want to run win11 with 6.9.2, you can. 1 Quote Link to comment
Norbs Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ghost82 said: Because this is not a security issue but a feature addition. What is mandatory for you (running win11) should not be mandatory for others. For me running mac os is mandatory, so should I ask to unraid to include a patch with the opencore bootloader?I think no... Moreover if you want to run win11 with 6.9.2, you can. Running Windows is not a new feature, if running OSX would be possible but when the new OSX version comes out and that wouldn't work I am sure it would be more annoying for you. I understand the point, what I don't if they see that the new release takes this much time a patch would be possible. As far as I understand that patch is ready for a long time so I guess the release is blocked because of some other feature. Why can't we get an interim release then? 6.10-RC1.2 or anything similar with the TPM patch but without the others? Edited October 22, 2021 by Norbs Quote Link to comment
ich777 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, Norbs said: As far as I understand that patch is ready for a long time I can only speak for myself and I started looking at the beginning of October into it how swTPM is working and also support BitLocker without recovering the drive every time you reboot the host (unRAID), BitLocker is with the current method possible but you have to recover the driver every time you reboot the host. The other way also involves to create a user script that maybe break your Dockers <- this is a thing that I can't confirm but if you read back in the thread you will see that some users reported that some Docker containers are broken on reboot with the other way. 22 minutes ago, Norbs said: some other feature Please also keep in mind a template needs to be created for Windows 11 and a more or less easy way of upgrading or changing the BIOS type from the VM to the new TPM type is also needed, this also involves writing tutorials on how to do this step by step and so on... Keep in mind this is all time consuming and needs to be tested so that everything is working correctly and not breaking anything. 22 minutes ago, Norbs said: Running Windows is not a new feature But the requirement for TPM and that secure boot is available is. Keep in mind this is all from my perspective as a community developer. 3 Quote Link to comment
ghost82 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Norbs said: I understand the point, what I don't if they see that the new release takes this much time a patch would be possible You call it "patch", but it's not a patch! If you are worried about reverting changes after following the tutorial to enable tpm and use ovmf compatible secure boot uefi bios, why don't you install win11 with the registry hacks to bypass them? A friend of mine told me he was able to receive patch tuesday update too. Once unraid will be upgraded you can add tpm and change ovmf uefi bios type. 4 Quote Link to comment
KJiv Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 My windows 11 build expires 10/31. Is the RC2 going to be out before then or do I need to go ahead and prepare the workaround? Quote Link to comment
okkies Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:24 PM, ich777 said: Please wait a few more days... Sent from my C64 still nothing, whats keeping so long ? 1 Quote Link to comment
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