[Plugin] Snapshots

[vmlinuz]

en gros il serait top de pouvoir faire un snapshot d'un répertoire comme dans la video a 37 minutes mes je suis pas sur que sa soit possible si le répertoire se trouve sur plusieur disque dur

Edited February 5, 2022 by vmlinuz

[vmlinuz]

J'ai ma réponce

[SimonF]

Not with array drives as snapshot has to be  on the same volume, but would work for a pool with muliple drives.

[SimonF]

@vmlinuz

 

You can manually create as a subvolume on a drive and it will be a share. You can then snapshot the files on that drive.

 

 

Then goto shares and export, select disks you have created subvol on or leave as all if you added to all 5.

 

 

Now you can setup a snapshot for each drives folder, but this will only be a snapshot of the files on that disk not the sum of all disks.

 

[vmlinuz]

oui il faut donc crée un partage sur un seul disque dur sinon sa fonctionne pas et la on a trouver les limite de Unraid on peut pas tout avoir 🤔

[SimonF]

Not perfect but you can try this.

 

Create subvol disk1->ecole-test

Create subvol disk2->ecole-test

 

file 1 and 2 on disk 1

file 3 and 4 on disk 2

 

snapshot disk1/ecole-test => disk1/ecole-back1 will have spans of 1 and 2.

snapshot disk2/ecole-test => disk2/ecole-back2 will jave snaps of 3 and 4.

 

[Thomas K]

Great plugin, I started on a fresh Unraid installation and the plugin shows:

 

Is that by design? Shouldn't there be any snapshots by default because there is no subvolume after a fresh format?
 

Thanks

[SimonF]

5 hours ago, Thomas K said:

Is that by design? Shouldn't there be any snapshots by default because there is no subvolume after a fresh format?

That view is correct, root of a drive was added to allow snap of whole drive. Snap shots will show under that I can look to hide if no snapshots.

 

 

Edited February 16, 2022 by SimonF

[Thomas K]

I think would make sense to hide if there are no snapshots at the beginning to not confuse users.

[SimonF]

On 2/23/2022 at 5:25 PM, Thomas K said:

I think would make sense to hide if there are no snapshots at the beginning to not confuse users.

I have made a change in the next release to not show if count < 0.

 

 

Released in 2022.03.05 and included toggle to root path.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 5, 2022 by SimonF

[SimonF]

Show Root Toggle.

 

 

[tjb_altf4]

Small thing I noticed as a brand new user, "show root" was toggled by on default, but had to be untoggle/retoggle to get root to actually show

[SimonF]

43 minutes ago, tjb_altf4 said:

Small thing I noticed as a brand new user, "show root" was toggled by on default, but had to be untoggle/retoggle to get root to actually show

Thanks will look into that default should not show route paths, so likely the slider is incorrect for new installs.

[SimonF]

On 3/30/2022 at 3:58 AM, tjb_altf4 said:

Small thing I noticed as a brand new user, "show root" was toggled by on default, but had to be untoggle/retoggle to get root to actually show

Fixed in 2022.03.31

[mervincm]

Are these snaps comatible with Windows previous versions when viewed via SMB share? I see snaps, and I can browse the share, but Windows doesnt see any previous versions.

[SimonF]

7 hours ago, mervincm said:

Are these snaps comatible with Windows previous versions when viewed via SMB share? I see snaps, and I can browse the share, but Windows doesnt see any previous versions.

There is no specific support for Windows Previous versions, this is just doing BTRFS snapshots. I dont know the requirements for WPV so if some can provide details of how it needs to be setup I can look to see if it can be added.

Edited April 8, 2022 by SimonF

[tjb_altf4]

1 hour ago, SimonF said:

There is no specific support for Windows Previous versions, there are just doing BTRFS snapshots. I dont know the requirements for WPV so if some can provide details of how it needs to be setup I can look to see if it can be added.

Seems to be mostly Samba config, other than some consistency around snapshot folder + naming

https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/current/man-html/vfs_btrfs.8.html

https://forum.openmediavault.org/index.php?thread/7331-guide-windows-previous-versions-and-samba-btrfs-atomic-cow-volume-shadow-copy/

 

and one with a ZFS flavour
https://forum.level1techs.com/t/zfs-on-unraid-lets-do-it-bonus-shadowcopy-setup-guide-project/148764

 

Edited April 8, 2022 by tjb_altf4

[SimonF]

23 hours ago, tjb_altf4 said:

Seems to be mostly Samba config, other than some consistency around snapshot folder + naming

https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/current/man-html/vfs_btrfs.8.html

https://forum.openmediavault.org/index.php?thread/7331-guide-windows-previous-versions-and-samba-btrfs-atomic-cow-volume-shadow-copy/

 

and one with a ZFS flavour
https://forum.level1techs.com/t/zfs-on-unraid-lets-do-it-bonus-shadowcopy-setup-guide-project/148764

 

Most of the setup seems straight forward. I think the issue will be setting SMB extras per share.

 

 

vfs objects = shadow_copy2 shadow:format = @GMT_%Y.%m.%d-%H.%M.%S shadow:sort = desc shadow:snapdir = .snapshots

[mervincm]

Thank you for the links

 

I was thinking that since the vast majority of desktops (admittedly less in this community) use Windows, and since "Previous Versions" functionality for SMB shares has been there by default for ~ 15 years it has to be considered the Industry standard when it comes to facilitating access to data in snapshots.

 

Snapshots are surely not an area of strength for unraid, so It's not fair to expect TrueNas or Synology type of experience, thus my investigation into what is actually required and my appreciation for community developers that make things 1 step more straight forward.

 

 

[Joly0]

Any option to hide Snapshots or Volumes from the list (idk what exactly). I have my docker not as an image, but as a folder and i see like 30 Snapshots/Volumes belonging to Docker which i would like to hide. Is that possible?

[SimonF]

6 hours ago, Joly0 said:

Any option to hide Snapshots or Volumes from the list (idk what exactly). I have my docker not as an image, but as a folder and i see like 30 Snapshots/Volumes belonging to Docker which i would like to hide. Is that possible?

Not at present, I think you are using the fo!der options for docker? I was going to exclude those in a future re!ease.

[Joly0]

9 hours ago, SimonF said:

Not at present, I think you are using the fo!der options for docker? I was going to exclude those in a future re!ease.

Yes, exactly, i use the folder option for docker

[Joly0]

Any news regarding my feature request? The snapshot page is barely usable as there are hundreds of docker btrfs snapshots which make it really hard to find anything

[SimonF]

5 hours ago, Joly0 said:

Any news regarding my feature request? The snapshot page is barely usable as there are hundreds of docker btrfs snapshots which make it really hard to find anything

I have made the changes to omit the docker paths, but need to work out how to get the correct path to use.

 

How have you specified the path in the docker settings? i.e are you using /mnt/user/..... or /mnt/poolname/....

[Joly0]

5 hours ago, SimonF said:

I have made the changes to omit the docker paths, but need to work out how to get the correct path to use.

 

How have you specified the path in the docker settings? i.e are you using /mnt/user/..... or /mnt/poolname/....

I have it setup as /mnt/user/system/docker for simplicity though system is cache only so /mnt/cache/system/docker would fit for me aswell