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6 hours ago, jamesk9 said:

Would it drop in unRaid and play well as is? 

That's a SAS expander, still need an HBA to connect to it.

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3 minutes ago, shanehm2 said:

WIll this card work out of the box for unRAID

Yes, it might need to be flashed to IT mode, but it's easy, like a bios update.

 

3 minutes ago, shanehm2 said:

and work in supermicro motherboards easily 

It should work with most, can't say it will work with all

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5 hours ago, shanehm2 said:

 

I took a quick look at your E-bay link and I suggest you look carefully at the pictures.  Notice that the LSI logo is missing on some of the pictures.  (It should be between the heatsink and the connector.)  This could indicate that the card is counterfeit!  Reading the description lead me (From the USA) to believe the text was written by a non English speaking person.  I realize that you are from Australia and probably  have fewer sourcing options but I would be a bit careful. 

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Just now, Frank1940 said:

I took a quick look at your E-bay link and I suggest you look carefully at the pictures.

I think they're just stock images they googled. 

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42 minutes ago, Frank1940 said:

Notice that the LSI logo is missing on some of the pictures.

Yes, there are a lot of fakes on the internet, unfortunately a missing logo is not a way to tell, most fakes have the LSI logo, LSI makes OEM versions without the logo, I do usually recommend buying used server pulls instead of new ones from China, I prefer an used genuine over a new fake any day.

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25 minutes ago, shanehm2 said:

do you mean something more like this for a server pull the h310 ?

Yes.

 

Dell/IBM need to be crossflashed, it's not difficult but it can be harder than a normal flash, still since that one is already pre-flashed it will be plug'n play.

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If you can find one preflashed from a vendor with a good reputation, it can be well worth the extra cost to have it done.  I seem to recall that there have been issues from finding computers that can still be booted to DOS to 'bricking' the card from doing some little detail wrong. (I recall that most of the time you will be working with the command line.)  Before you decide to flash one yourself, find the directions (and software)  for the exact card you are considering purchasing and read through the procedure to see if it is something you will be comfortable doing.

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55 minutes ago, Frank1940 said:

If you can find one preflashed from a vendor with a good reputation, it can be well worth the extra cost to have it done.  I seem to recall that there have been issues from finding computers that can still be booted to DOS to 'bricking' the card from doing some little detail wrong. (I recall that most of the time you will be working with the command line.)  Before you decide to flash one yourself, find the directions (and software)  for the exact card you are considering purchasing and read through the procedure to see if it is something you will be comfortable doing.

That's my number one concern. I am comfortable with everything computer wise, except for flashing firmware.

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32 minutes ago, shanehm2 said:

That's my number one concern. I am comfortable with everything computer wise, except for flashing firmware.

When I got my preflashed card, I used the term  IT mode  as part of the share parameter along with the OEM vendor's name the OEM model number on E-bay.  I also got the P20 version software which (as I understand it) is actually LSI's IT mode software for that whole 9200-xx series of cards.  (Version P19 is also commonly available and it may also be unRAID compatible.) 

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Based on this thread, I bought two AOC-SASLP-MV8 from ebay..  They basically work, but I've been having some strange drive failures that I didn't have before, when I was using the motherboard SATA..  The strange thing is that I dont get prompted to press Ctrl-M on either machine I have installed the boards into, so  I can't really look at any of the settings.  I did find info on using the DOS utility to backup the config and look at it in the text file, so I've verified that the INT13 is off, and RAID is off.  The BIOS of each is the x.21 version everyone talks about here on the forum, but I'd still like to be able to get into the CTRL-M menu if someone can tell me how to enable that prompt??  

 

My drives are in 4-in-3 hot swap cages, and/or single drive cages, but those cages were also in use when I was using the MoBo ports, so I dont think they're adding to the instability.

 

Is this card generally still looked upon as a good choice for low cost?  ( I really dont care much for highest performance - I'd prefer reliability over performance any day... this is just for home and about the highest load it'll ever get is to stream a standard def DVD to a Kodi box..

 

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!

-Steve

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Based on this thread, I bought two AOC-SASLP-MV8 from ebay..  They basically work, but I've been having some strange drive failures that I didn't have before, when I was using the motherboard SATA..  The strange thing is that I dont get prompted to press Ctrl-M on either machine I have installed the boards into, so  I can't really look at any of the settings.  I did find info on using the DOS utility to backup the config and look at it in the text file, so I've verified that the INT13 is off, and RAID is off.  The BIOS of each is the x.21 version everyone talks about here on the forum, but I'd still like to be able to get into the CTRL-M menu if someone can tell me how to enable that prompt??  
 
My drives are in 4-in-3 hot swap cages, and/or single drive cages, but those cages were also in use when I was using the MoBo ports, so I dont think they're adding to the instability.
 
Is this card generally still looked upon as a good choice for low cost?  ( I really dont care much for highest performance - I'd prefer reliability over performance any day... this is just for home and about the highest load it'll ever get is to stream a standard def DVD to a Kodi box..
 
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!
-Steve


Marvel based cards aren't recommended any more. Many users have no problems with them, but alot suffer from parity check errors, drives randomly dropping, etc. Best off to get a LSI based card instead

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33 minutes ago, Squid said:

Marvel based cards aren't recommended any more. Many users have no problems with them, but alot suffer from parity check errors, drives randomly dropping, etc. Best off to get a LSI based card instead
 

Thanks for the quick response..  That describes EXACTLY what I'm seeing..  I guess for the few $$ I spent, I shouldn't be surprised..  Oh well - They're probably decent enough cards to leave on the shelf for a windows box someday..  :-)

 

Ebay, here I come for an LSI card..  :-)  Any recommendations, or is any LSI basically the same??

 

Edit: Based on other posts on this thread, I've got 2 Dell  H310 cards..    Thanks for the help!!

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10 hours ago, 172pilot said:

Edit: Based on other posts on this thread, I've got 2 Dell  H310 cards..    Thanks for the help!!

You'll probably need to flash them to IT mode, but its a painless procedure, and detailed in the Flashing thread.

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1 hour ago, Squid said:

You'll probably need to flash them to IT mode, but its a painless procedure, and detailed in the Flashing thread.

Thanks..  I'll check that out - I had heard of that, but havent done that before.  

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13 hours ago, 172pilot said:

Thanks for the quick response..  That describes EXACTLY what I'm seeing..  I guess for the few $$ I spent, I shouldn't be surprised..  Oh well - They're probably decent enough cards to leave on the shelf for a windows box someday..  :-)

 

Ebay, here I come for an LSI card..  :-)  Any recommendations, or is any LSI basically the same??

 

Edit: Based on other posts on this thread, I've got 2 Dell  H310 cards..    Thanks for the help!!

 

Wide variety of cards available.  Here's the manufacturers website (googled LSI HBA product family).  Differences in the cards depend on

1. the number of lanes (VERY IMPORTANT)

2. the number of external or internal ports.

3. PCI Express 2.0 or 3.0 (important depending on your motherboard).  This article discusses the difference from a gaming perspective, but the concepts are the same...after all, in the end its ALL data!  http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/pci-express-3-0-vs-2-0-gaming-performance-gain/

 

I bought this card: https://www.broadcom.com/products/storage/host-bus-adapters/sas-9207-8i, which has performed well (get 120mb/s across gigabit ethernet).

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Many LSI based controllers are listed. Just check which ones are available at your location for reasonable
prices.


If you can still edit the wiki please change the 9207-8i to working ootb.

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Hello,

 

My unRAID server case (Thermaltake Armour) currently houses 8 drives and can comfortably hold four more in the removable drive cages, for a total of 12 drives.  However, all 8 existing sata ports are occupied (6 on the DH55HC MB, plus 2 on a SiiG sata card).  To create some open stata ports now and add more drives in the future, I need to replace the SiiG SC-SA0L 11-S1 2-port card that is connected to the PCI express 2.0 x16 graphics card slot with a 6-port or 8-port card that will perform optimally in the same slot .

 

I've read through the PCI Sata Controller section of the Hardware Compatibility Wiki and am not sure which controller I should purchase because the only card listed for PCI express 2.0, is the SuperMicro AOC-USAS2-L8i/L8e, which is discontinued according to the SuperMicro website.

 

Any recommendations for a replacement controller card that is <=$150?

 

Thank you,

Peaceful

 

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57 minutes ago, Peaceful said:

Any recommendations for a replacement controller card that is <=$150?

 

I have an old AM3+ motherboard with PCIe v2.0 and I just picked up an LSI SAS9207-8i card that recommends a PCIe v3.0 8x slot for $102 on amazon. It works great. Most importantly, no firmware flashing required. Obviously this card is backwards compatible with PCIe v2 and you won't notice a difference with regular hard drives but it will limit the speed of an ssd.

I average 100.5 MB/s during parity checks with 6 2TB WD blues. No errors and no problems. You will need 2x internal mini-SAS to 4x SATA forward breakout cables.

This price has gone up some now ($120) but you can find them for less if you look. I just purchased a backup card on ebay for $30 NEW.

Edited by SoAvenger
added some more explanations.

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7 hours ago, Peaceful said:

 

I've read through the PCI Sata Controller section of the Hardware Compatibility Wiki and am not sure which controller I should purchase because the only card listed for PCI express 2.0, is the SuperMicro AOC-USAS2-L8i/L8e, which is discontinued according to the SuperMicro website.

Most of the listed cards are PCIe2.0 - by the time the list was started it was state of the art.

The SAS2008 cards from LSI or their rebrands are recommended. PCIe3.0 maybe more future proof, but not necessarily budget.

Dependent on your location, especially the rebranded cards can be very competitive in terms of pricing, but they have to be crossflashed.

In certain regions even the LSI cards are inexpensive, you have to check.

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On 1/23/2018 at 5:21 PM, SoAvenger said:

 

I have an old AM3+ motherboard with PCIe v2.0 and I just picked up an LSI SAS9207-8i card that recommends a PCIe v3.0 8x slot for $102 on amazon. It works great. Most importantly, no firmware flashing required. Obviously this card is backwards compatible with PCIe v2 and you won't notice a difference with regular hard drives but it will limit the speed of an ssd.

I average 100.5 MB/s during parity checks with 6 2TB WD blues. No errors and no problems. You will need 2x internal mini-SAS to 4x SATA forward breakout cables.

This price has gone up some now ($120) but you can find them for less if you look. I just purchased a backup card on ebay for $30 NEW.

 

Thank you for the suggestion!  That LSI card looks like a good fit and with PCIe 3.0 it offers an upgrade path should I replace the MB one day.

 

21 hours ago, Fireball3 said:

Most of the listed cards are PCIe2.0 - by the time the list was started it was state of the art.

The SAS2008 cards from LSI or their rebrands are recommended. PCIe3.0 maybe more future proof, but not necessarily budget.

Dependent on your location, especially the rebranded cards can be very competitive in terms of pricing, but they have to be crossflashed.

In certain regions even the LSI cards are inexpensive, you have to check.

 

Thanks for the clarification.  I was being too literal with the interface designations.  The LSI that SoAvenger is using sounds like a good solution.

 

Thanks again,

Peaceful

 

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