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BEEN CRASHING CONSTANTLY FOR WEEKS EVERY DAY OR SO

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Hi everyone!

 

I haven't posted here in a long time, so please let me know if I am not providing all the proper information, but I really need your help. For weeks now, every day or two, I would lose complete access to my server and its containers (even a local IP sniffer shows that the server's local IP cannot be pinged). I would then have to do a complete power shutdown of the server and reboot - to which the server would work again for a day or so before the issued arose again. At first I thought it was my deluge container that was the issue, since it would be the container that would seem to error first, but since then I have removed the container and I still have the issue. I have attached the diag zip file and the syslog file hoping someone could point me to the source of the issue so I can fix it. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!

syslog

tower-diagnostics-20230323-1717.zip

Edited by Pjrezai

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Looks like this problem:

 

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Hi, I thought so too but I had the container stopped completely when I reboot and still have this issue. Is there anything else that it could be?

Edited by Pjrezai

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I probably saw the errorw from when it still was enabled, do you know when you disabled it, or the time it last crashed with it disabled?

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Well, I have downgraded qbittorrent based on that other thread. Hopefully that will fix it. Time will tell.

  • 2 weeks later...
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I downgraded to librtorrentv1 but still complete failure of unraid (docker, etc.). I cannot even SSH into it to download the diagnostic. I had to hard reboot. All I could pull after theh reboot is the syslog. I am lost for words on what the problem is :( :( 

syslog-192.168.1.146-2.log

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Call traces are different now, but there are multiple ones, unfortunately these don't give me any clue on what the problem could be, it could be hardware, one thing you can try is to boot the server in safe mode with all docker/VMs disabled, let it run as a basic NAS for a few days, if it still crashes it's likely a hardware problem, if it doesn't start turning on the other services one by one.

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Dang. Would there be a list of possible problems I could look into based on the call traces or your intuition?

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RAM or board/CPU would be the main suspects.

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On 4/4/2023 at 11:51 AM, JorgeB said:

RAM or board/CPU would be the main suspects.

Hi! So it completely crashed again without having the torrent client open. So I decided to look into the hardware. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I ran a memtest and didn't get any errors though. Then I read somewhere about c-states. I decided to disable them and run the server again and see if in the next few days it crashes again. Do you think it may be the c-states? Also, I have attached the newest syslog for the newest crash. Hopefully you can see something in there. In they syslog it seems to have occurred around 2:11am this morning, if you can take a look around that time in the syslogs.

syslog-192.168.1.146.log

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Nope, doesn't seem to be the c-states. Crashed again in record time (within an hour or so).

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Please don't create multiple threads about the same problem, merged both.

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Ah sorry, thanks! Thought it might be more than one problem. So I basically moved back to my old hardware and it seems like everything is running smoothly so far. I will wait a few days to see, but this could basically point to it being a hardware problem - which is unfortunate because the new hardware is brand new - an i9-13900k and asus prime Z-690a and 32gb ddr5 5200 G.Skill. I did a memtest and didn't come up with any errors but still I feel as though odds are it is the memory since I bought them used (the cpu and motherboard are new)

@Pjrezai if you have 2 memory slots used then you could try to just use one and see if it crashes. Then if it does switch out and only use the other. If its the memory I would assume the chances to be low that both are defective at once.

As you moved to old hardware you could use the new hardware to run a trial version of unraid so that your main system can stay stable for now.

Edited by Anon

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On 4/8/2023 at 5:49 AM, Anon said:

@Pjrezai if you have 2 memory slots used then you could try to just use one and see if it crashes. Then if it does switch out and only use the other. If its the memory I would assume the chances to be low that both are defective at once.

As you moved to old hardware you could use the new hardware to run a trial version of unraid so that your main system can stay stable for now.

Thanks for that option! That would be very convenient.  So Just an update, I went and purchased new ram (same make and model) thinking maybe the previous ram was defective and still got a crash. I have attached it below. I am lost for words on why now, but maybe you can see something in the logs! Thanks for all your help guys!

syslog-192.168.1.146 (1).log tower-diagnostics-20230412-0217.zip

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Based on the syslog could it be a CPU issue? Maybe something I could change in the BIOS? 

  • 2 weeks later...
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I installed a fresh trial version of unraid on the new hardware and it crashed again. I have done a memtest in the past (via the built-in one on my motherboard; the one on the unraid USB doesn't work - but I even bought new memory just in case). It still crashes. I have attached the syslog. It happened on Aug18. I don't know if there is something in the BIOS that is the issue? The motherboard? The CPU? I'm really lost. ANY help would be very appreciative!

syslog test-diagnostics-20230422-1932.zip

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There are constant call traces logged, unfortunately not always easy to tell what is causing them, but looks more like a hardware problem, if you already tried safe mode without docker and VMs like suggested above, and RAM was already replaced, board or CPU would be the main suspects.

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6 hours ago, JorgeB said:

There are constant call traces logged, unfortunately not always easy to tell what is causing them, but looks more like a hardware problem, if you already tried safe mode without docker and VMs like suggested above, and RAM was already replaced, board or CPU would be the main suspects.

Well yea it definitely is a hardware problem because I am running a whole new instance of unraid. Yeah I replaced the RAM with the same make and model. I do have another new-in-box of the same motherboard. The only thing I don't have a spare of is the CPU. I really hope it isn't that because it is the most difficult to deal with, but I assume it would be with my luck. Do you think it is just that the particular make and model of the motherboard and RAM don't play well with Unraid? I doubt it but I have the ASUS PRIME Z-690A and G.Skill Ripjaw DDR5 5200 RAM.

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