felixikuss Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) Hello everyone. I have a Dell R510 with Unraid. Unfortunately, it goes down every 4-5 days and doesn't come back online. I saw something in the logs but can't make sense of it. Can someone help me? Many thanks to everyone. Log: Aug 2 07:07:55 Tower kernel: ? kthread_complete_and_exit+0x1b/0x1b Aug 2 07:07:55 Tower kernel: ret_from_fork+0x22/0x30 Aug 2 07:07:55 Tower kernel: </TASK> Aug 2 07:09:50 Tower webGUI: Successful login user root from 192.168.2.1 Aug 2 07:10:00 Tower rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="8.2102.0" x-pid="1147" x-info="https://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: rcu: INFO: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: rcu: 10-....: (240002 ticks this GP) idle=b18c/1/0x4000000000000000 softirq=25392315/25392315 fqs=119752 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: (t=240003 jiffies g=90254029 q=731854 ncpus=16) Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: CPU: 10 PID: 13138 Comm: unraidd0 Tainted: P W IO 6.1.99-Unraid #1 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: Hardware name: Dell Inc. PowerEdge R510/0DPRKF, BIOS 1.14.0 05/30/2018 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: RIP: 0010:schedule_read+0x77/0x86 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: Code: 00 b8 11 ff ff 01 b9 00 04 00 00 48 c1 e2 29 48 03 93 a8 00 00 00 48 c1 e0 27 48 c1 fa 06 48 c1 e2 0c 48 01 c2 31 c0 48 89 d7 <f3> ab 48 81 0b 00 01 00 00 5b c3 cc cc cc cc 0f 1f 44 00 00 41 57 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: RSP: 0018:ffffc9000c3a7de0 EFLAGS: 00010246 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: RAX: 0000000000000000 RBX: ffff88837f6e84a8 RCX: 00000000000003f9 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: RDX: ffff88837f7a2000 RSI: 0000000000000005 RDI: ffff88837f7a201c Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: RBP: 0000000000000000 R08: 0000000000000002 R09: 0000000000000002 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: R10: 0000000000000000 R11: 00000000000002c4 R12: 000000000000000b Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: R13: 0000000000000005 R14: 000000000000000c R15: 0000000000000000 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: FS: 0000000000000000(0000) GS:ffff888623d40000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: CR2: 0000149bd5ebe010 CR3: 000000000220a006 CR4: 00000000000226e0 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: Call Trace: Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: <IRQ> Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? rcu_dump_cpu_stacks+0x95/0xb9 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? rcu_sched_clock_irq+0x345/0xa48 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? tick_init_jiffy_update+0x7c/0x7c Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? update_process_times+0x62/0x81 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? tick_sched_timer+0x43/0x71 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? __hrtimer_run_queues+0xeb/0x190 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? hrtimer_interrupt+0x9c/0x16e Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? __sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt+0xc5/0x12f Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt+0x80/0xa6 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: </IRQ> Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: <TASK> Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? asm_sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt+0x16/0x20 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? schedule_read+0x77/0x86 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: unraidd+0xd54/0x1140 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: md_thread+0xf7/0x122 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? _raw_spin_rq_lock_irqsave+0x20/0x20 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? signal_pending+0x1d/0x1d [md_mod] Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: kthread+0xe7/0xef Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ? kthread_complete_and_exit+0x1b/0x1b Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: ret_from_fork+0x22/0x30 Aug 2 07:10:55 Tower kernel: </TASK> Aug 2 07:11:00 Tower vnstatd[4105]: Traffic rate for "br0" higher than set maximum 10 Mbit (20s->27262976, r513879924 t2861048, 64bit:1), syncing. Aug 2 07:11:04 Tower kernel: clocksource: Long readout interval, skipping watchdog check: cs_nsec: 244185826794 wd_nsec: 0 Aug 2 07:11:20 Tower vnstatd[4105]: Traffic rate for "br0" higher than set maximum 10 Mbit (20s->27262976, r2216818136 t5746769, 64bit:1), syncing. Aug 2 07:11:40 Tower vnstatd[4105]: Traffic rate for "br0" higher than set maximum 10 Mbit (20s->27262976, r2169698597 t4950160, 64bit:1), syncing. Aug 2 07:12:00 Tower vnstatd[4105]: Detected bandwidth limit for "br0" changed from 10 Mbit to 1000 Mbit. Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: rcu: INFO: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: rcu: 0-....: (60000 ticks this GP) idle=943c/1/0x4000000000000000 softirq=52581962/52581962 fqs=27526 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: (t=60001 jiffies g=90254037 q=785985 ncpus=16) Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: CPU: 0 PID: 13138 Comm: unraidd0 Tainted: P W IO 6.1.99-Unraid #1 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: Hardware name: Dell Inc. PowerEdge R510/0DPRKF, BIOS 1.14.0 05/30/2018 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: RIP: 0010:schedule_read+0x77/0x86 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: Code: 00 b8 11 ff ff 01 b9 00 04 00 00 48 c1 e2 29 48 03 93 a8 00 00 00 48 c1 e0 27 48 c1 fa 06 48 c1 e2 0c 48 01 c2 31 c0 48 89 d7 <f3> ab 48 81 0b 00 01 00 00 5b c3 cc cc cc cc 0f 1f 44 00 00 41 57 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: RSP: 0018:ffffc9000c3a7de0 EFLAGS: 00010246 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: RAX: 0000000000000000 RBX: ffff88837f6ec3a8 RCX: 00000000000002c3 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: RDX: ffff88837f7f3000 RSI: 0000000000000008 RDI: ffff88837f7f34f4 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: RBP: 0000000000000000 R08: 0000000000000002 R09: 0000000000000002 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: R10: 0000000000000000 R11: 000000000002aeeb R12: 000000000000000b Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: R13: 0000000000000008 R14: 000000000000000c R15: 0000000000000000 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: FS: 0000000000000000(0000) GS:ffff888623c00000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: CR2: 0000014b0aa47a9b CR3: 000000000220a001 CR4: 00000000000226f0 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: Call Trace: Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: <IRQ> Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? rcu_dump_cpu_stacks+0x95/0xb9 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? rcu_sched_clock_irq+0x345/0xa48 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? tick_init_jiffy_update+0x7c/0x7c Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? update_process_times+0x62/0x81 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? tick_sched_timer+0x43/0x71 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? __hrtimer_run_queues+0xeb/0x190 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? hrtimer_interrupt+0x9c/0x16e Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? __sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt+0xc5/0x12f Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt+0x80/0xa6 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: </IRQ> Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: <TASK> Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? asm_sysvec_apic_timer_interrupt+0x16/0x20 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? schedule_read+0x77/0x86 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: unraidd+0xd54/0x1140 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: md_thread+0xf7/0x122 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? _raw_spin_rq_lock_irqsave+0x20/0x20 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? signal_pending+0x1d/0x1d [md_mod] Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: kthread+0xe7/0xef Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? kthread_complete_and_exit+0x1b/0x1b Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ret_from_fork+0x22/0x30 Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: </TASK> Aug 2 07:13:09 Tower webGUI: Successful login user root from 192.168.188.42 Aug 2 07:13:13 Tower nginx: 2024/08/02 07:13:13 [crit] 10046#10046: *1671272 connect() to unix:/var/run/syslog.sock failed (2: No such file or directory) while connecting to upstream, client: 192.168.188.42, server: , request: "GET /webterminal/syslog/ HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://unix:/var/run/syslog.sock:/", host: "192.168.188.173", referrer: "http://192.168.188.173/Main" Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: <--- start FTQ dump ---> Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RV2P_PFTQ_CTL 00010002 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RV2P_TFTQ_CTL 00020000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RV2P_MFTQ_CTL 00004000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: TBDR_FTQ_CTL 00004002 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: TDMA_FTQ_CTL 00010002 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: TXP_FTQ_CTL 00010002 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: TXP_FTQ_CTL 00010002 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: TPAT_FTQ_CTL 00010000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RXP_CFTQ_CTL 00008000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RXP_FTQ_CTL 00100000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: COM_COMXQ_FTQ_CTL 00010000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: COM_COMTQ_FTQ_CTL 00020000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: COM_COMQ_FTQ_CTL 00010000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: CP_CPQ_FTQ_CTL 00004000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: CPU states: Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 045000 mode b84c state 80001000 evt_mask 500 pc 800128c pc 8001284 instr 38640001 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 085000 mode b84c state 80001000 evt_mask 500 pc 8000a5c pc 8000a4c instr 38420001 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 0c5000 mode b84c state 80005000 evt_mask 500 pc 8004c18 pc 8004c14 instr 32070001 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 105000 mode b8cc state 80000000 evt_mask 500 pc 8000b24 pc 8000b2c instr 32620001 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 145000 mode b880 state 80000000 evt_mask 500 pc 800d244 pc 800d1b0 instr 24130001 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 185000 mode b8cc state 80000000 evt_mask 500 pc 8000c58 pc 8000c58 instr 1092823 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: <--- end FTQ dump ---> Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: <--- start TBDC dump ---> Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: TBDC free cnt: 32 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: LINE CID BIDX CMD VALIDS Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 00 000800 ae30 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 01 000800 ae30 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 02 000800 ad68 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 03 001100 af20 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 04 001000 3988 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 05 001000 3990 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 06 001000 3998 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 07 001000 0038 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 08 001080 0080 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 09 001080 0088 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 0a 001080 0098 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 0b 001080 00a8 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 0c 001000 42f0 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 0d 000800 1dd0 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 0e 001100 f118 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 0f 001100 1538 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 10 000800 4288 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 11 001100 6048 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 12 001100 6050 00 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 13 19ed80 af48 be [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 14 0f5f80 fbe0 3f [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 15 0edf80 3ff8 ff [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 16 1ff780 b698 ef [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 17 1d7d80 f7e0 9b [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 18 1e5780 bff8 7b [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 19 1dbf80 fb38 f9 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 1a 1ddb80 ff68 fb [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 1b 1f7f80 7f38 64 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 1c 1fef80 f3f8 7b [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 1d 10a780 f6f8 6f [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 1e 1f7f80 ef68 e6 [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: 1f 1dfe00 f7d8 9d [0] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: <--- end TBDC dump ---> Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: intr_sem[0] PCI_CMD[00100406] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: PCI_PM[19002008] PCI_MISC_CFG[92000088] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: EMAC_TX_STATUS[0000000e] EMAC_RX_STATUS[00000000] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: RPM_MGMT_PKT_CTRL[40000088] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: HC_STATS_INTERRUPT_STATUS[01fb0004] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: PBA[00000000] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: <--- start MCP states dump ---> Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: MCP_STATE_P0[0003610e] MCP_STATE_P1[0003600e] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: MCP mode[0000b880] state[80000000] evt_mask[00000500] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: pc[0800b26c] pc[0800b114] instr[afbf0048] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: shmem states: Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: drv_mb[01030009] fw_mb[00000009] link_status[0000006f] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: drv_pulse_mb[00007ebe] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: dev_info_signature[44564907] reset_type[01005254] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: condition[0003610e] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: 000001c0: 01005254 42530085 0003610e 00000000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: 000003cc: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: 000003dc: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: 000003ec: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: DEBUG: 0x3fc[00000000] Aug 2 07:13:41 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: <--- end MCP states dump ---> Aug 2 07:13:47 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: <--- start FTQ dump ---> Aug 2 07:13:47 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RV2P_PFTQ_CTL 00010002 Aug 2 07:13:47 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RV2P_TFTQ_CTL 00020000 Aug 2 07:13:47 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RV2P_MFTQ_CTL 00004000 Aug 2 07:13:47 Tower kernel: bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: TBDR_FTQ_CTL 00004002 tower-diagnostics-20240614-1800.zip Edited August 2 by felixikuss Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 You are likely to get better informed feedback if you attach your system’s diagnostics zip file to your next post in this thread. It is always a good idea when asking questions to supply your diagnostics so we can see details of your system, how you have things configured, and the current syslog. The syslog in the diagnostics is the RAM copy and only shows what happened since the reboot. It could be worth enabling the syslog server to get a log that survives a reboot so we can see what happened prior to the reboot. The mirror to flash option is the easiest to set up, but if you are worried about excessive wear on the flash drive you can put your server’s address into the Remote Server field. Quote Link to comment
felixikuss Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 Thank you for the hint. I have activated the syslog server and attached the diagnostics zip file to the post. Quote Link to comment
Solution JorgeB Posted August 2 Solution Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, felixikuss said: Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: ? schedule_read+0x77/0x86 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: unraidd+0xd54/0x1140 [md_mod] Aug 2 07:12:04 Tower kernel: md_thread+0xf7/0x122 [md_mod] Unraid driver is crashing, this is almost always a hardware issue, but in some rare occasions it can be kernel compatibility, try 7.0.0-beta, if the same it's almost certainly hardware. Quote Link to comment
felixikuss Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 Thanks, I give it a try Quote Link to comment
felixikuss Posted August 8 Author Share Posted August 8 Many thanks for the help. It has been running for 6 days without any problems. I'll observe and report again after a somewhat longer period of time. 1 Quote Link to comment
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