kizer Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 We are looking at getting a Mac for a few reasons that I don't want to address, but I do have questions. 1. In my PC I normally just click the run button and type in \\tower\disk1\ and wham I'm connected to my disk share or I click on My computer and click on a mapped drive and I'm connected via a user share. How does it work with a mac seeing that I keep my shares hidden, but exported so its harder to see and not obvious for everybody to walk up and access shares. 2. On my PC I use login/passwords does Mac support users just like PC's? 3. Apps like iPhoto and Apreture I'm guessing they map to the files on the network and do not need to store them locally? Quote Link to comment
prostuff1 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 We are looking at getting a Mac for a few reasons that I don't want to address, but I do have questions. 1. In my PC I normally just click the run button and type in \\tower\disk1\ and wham I'm connected to my disk share or I click on My computer and click on a mapped drive and I'm connected via a user share. How does it work with a mac? command key + K 2. On my PC I use login/passwords does Mac support users just like PC's? Yes 3. Apps like iPhoto and Apreture I'm guessing they map to the files on the network and do not need to store them locally? Yes it can be set up to so that content is on the network. Quote Link to comment
kizer Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks Pro. I did edit my first question with reguards to accessing \\tower\disk1\ without truely mapping it, but I think you answered it before I clicked the post button. I guess I should of asked one more. Currently I use SMB like everybody else is there going to be a problem with the newer Macs using SMB or did they go to that AFP? I heard there is a work around, but is that only affected with 5+ or does that affect 4.7 as well. Sorry for my ignorance I've never cared or really looked at anything Mac until last night when the wife said. "Hey I'm thinking I want a Mac. Which one do you think we should get?" My only gut concern is to make sure it talks with unRAID. LOL Quote Link to comment
prostuff1 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks Pro. I did edit my first question with reguards to accessing \\tower\disk1\ without truely mapping it, but I think you answered it before I clicked the post button. I guess I should of asked one more. Currently I use SMB like everybody else is there going to be a problem with the newer Macs using SMB or did they go to that AFP? I heard there is a work around, but is that only affected with 5+ or does that affect 4.7 as well. Sorry for my ignorance I've never cared or really looked at anything Mac until last night when the wife said. "Hey I'm thinking I want a Mac. Which one do you think we should get?" My only gut concern is to make sure it talks with unRAID. LOL You won't have any issue making it work with unRAID. SMB will also work just fine on OS X 10.7 Quote Link to comment
caimakale Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 After hitting cmd + K, you'll need to enter your link like this smb://tower/disk1 instead of \\tower\disk1. If you don't prefix it with smb it will try to use the afp protocol. After entering your path, you can click the + key and add the server path to the list of favorites (the list is located in the same window where you enter the path). I find this particularly useful with my hidden folders since the mac doesn't show them while browsing a disk. An example I use is smb://tower/cache/.apps Also, because I'm a little OCD and can't stand all of the .DS_Store files that get left behind when using a mac to browse the folders, I have the package installed via unmenu that deletes them on a set schedule. Quote Link to comment
dgaschk Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Under System Preferences -> Network -> Advanced -> WINS you can set the Windows workgroup. If your network has at least one Windows machine on to act as local master then the server should appear in the sidebar. You can set unRAID as local master if you have only Macs on the network. Quote Link to comment
kizer Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Can you view disk shares without adding them? Meaning in windows I just type \\tower\disk1\ and I can access it without actually having it show up because its hidden. However I can still access and change files. Quote Link to comment
dgaschk Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I'm not sure what you mean. Hidden shares will still be hidden. They are accessed like so: After hitting cmd + K, you'll need to enter your link like this smb://tower/disk1 instead of \\tower\disk1. Quote Link to comment
caimakale Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Can you view disk shares without adding them? Meaning in windows I just type \\tower\disk1\ and I can access it without actually having it show up because its hidden. However I can still access and change files. Yes, you can still access hidden and private shares. You just need to make sure Finder is the active window (it will say Finder in the top left menu bar if it is active) and then hit cmd +k and type the share in as mentioned above (using smb:// instead of \\). Quote Link to comment
kizer Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thanks everybody. Might pickup a Mac Tomarrow. Quote Link to comment
kaiguy Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 As a Mac convert, I think you'll love it. And worse case scenario, you can throw Windows on there and have great hardware. Quote Link to comment
Chris Pollard Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 AFP was unusable on my unRAID. SMB works perfectly. My system might not have enough CPU, or there might be too many files, or AFP might not like waiting for spin-ups..... god knows. I just stuck to SMB and turned AFP off again. Quote Link to comment
speeding_ant Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Another perspective - AFP working wonderfully on mine. Beta 14. 10.7 clients. Have two machines backing up to TimeMachine, one via WiFi, one ethernet. 6 shares. Absolutely no problems. Quote Link to comment
kizer Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 I must admit the Mac world feels very weird. I picked up the 27inch iMac and man it looks awesome, but I feel like I'm using a Russian Machine with Spanish Subtitles telling me how to use it. LOL Thank god for the internet and google to look for things. Installed one kiddy app "Dora the Explorer" Told me I didn't have permissions to run the app as admin and ended up doing a "sudo chmod -R 777" to the file and wham it worked again. LOL Who would of known I would have to use linux commands to fix it. Luckly I used my Network login/password that matches unRAID so everything seems to be working well together. What I don't like are all these .store files every where, but I'm sure its either needed or I'll eventually get rid of them. What I thought was amazing was how fast iPhoto loads up my images. I'm guessing its because I'm running diskcache. Quote Link to comment
speeding_ant Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just remember, most tasks on a Mac don't require much thinking. If you have to Google something simple, chances are you're overlooking something completely obvious. If you're running as an admin, generally only installing an App or modifying system files should require a username and password. Most apps that don't have an installer can be opened without requiring a password. It is great that OS X is a full unix certified OS though .DS_Store files are there to store window settings, and are annoying in a dual platform environment. Keychain will store any username password for a server connection, just remember to tick the "Remember password" checkbox. Quote Link to comment
prostuff1 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 You will probably want to install my DS_Store script in unMenu. You can also look into Total Finder and the Asepsis it has built in. I run TotalFinder on my Snow Leopard Mac and love it. Quote Link to comment
kizer Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 The only reason I googled on thing was I couldn't install something and ended up having to drop into terminal to fix he permissions. Kind of bizarre that I had to do it but that's what other users said they had to do. For me a mac is a different animal, but I'm willing to learn because I like all animals. Quote Link to comment
speeding_ant Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The only reason I googled on thing was I couldn't install something and ended up having to drop into terminal to fix he permissions. Kind of bizarre that I had to do it but that's what other users said they had to do. For me a mac is a different animal, but I'm willing to learn because I like all animals. Fair enough! I meant no offense btw Quote Link to comment
kizer Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Oh no offense taken. You could of called me an idiot LOL... I'm feeling like one trying to untrain myself from the PC way to the Mac way. Of course its not my primary machine, but more or less my iPhoto machine. I have a question for you Mac guys. I've got 6000+ photos as of right now. Heck probably a couple more 1000 after I actually sort through a bunch more. As of right now all my photos live on unRAID. Doing some reading there are a lot of others that say I shouldn't keep them on unRAID because you loose the ability to GPS tag, rename and other things if kept remotely, but will display in iPhoto. I don't mind keeping my photos in iPhoto as long as I suppose TimeMachine can back them up, which I need to setup still and if needed I can export the images for whatever purposes I decide. I'm just afraid to have multiple copies of photos and some how get them mixed up. Any suggestions for photo archiving and manipulation? Quote Link to comment
speeding_ant Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 We have around 10,000 RAW files sitting on one of our Hackintosh's. We use Lightroom to manipulate and store, and then backup via TimeMachine. I know my folks are storing/opening their archived iPhoto Libraries directly on an unRAID share without issue. Quote Link to comment
kizer Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah I'm storing them on unRAID, but from what I can read or I should say gleemed. It looks like when you manipulate them or change the GPS locations it doesn't save back to unRAID, but does locally. I'm only saying this because I rotated a few images and changed a few locations using places and I noticed it didn't change the rotation on unRAID nor changed the last modified date. Not a super big deal, but if I'm going to go through all the effort to fix the GPS locations and other things I want to make sure they are being saved. I might have to follow your path and use TimeMachine backups...... Anyways its only day 2 so I'm sure I'll eventually figure things out. Quote Link to comment
kizer Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Welp Opted to store my iPhoto database directly on the Mac and I'm using TimeMachine which somebody was kind enough to throw up a Package for and it appears to work perfectly. So far I guess I'm just using User Shares meaning I have some drives I can write to and some I can't because the user I'm using only has read on some and I would normally use Disk Shares to get around that. I'll look into that someday, but for now the Mac has its thing it does and my Windows machine has its thing it does. For me this is working perfectly and unRAID has been running flawlessly. Thanks for the help guys. Quote Link to comment
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