I installed a new hard drive, and created a single share on it: "HD"

 

I planned to copy all my ISOs from BluRay and HD-DVD there.

 

I posted another thread (http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=1949.0) on how to move the files from one disk to another, and got some great advice.

 

However, I must've screwed it up, cause after I copied 3 folders (with ISOs), I looked on my "disk3" and noticed I now had 2 shares: "HD" and "hd".

 

Ok, my bad--the share names are case-sensitive I guess?  Ok.  And I go into the browser interface, and sure enough, there is now a "hd" share, so now they are on the right drive, just the wrong share, right?  Nope. When I look in HD and hd, BOTH shares have the 3 folders!!!  Now I'm starting to get worried about corruption and having to rip them again, so I create a new share, HiDef, and copy all the folders from the HD share to the HiDef share.  That seemed to work.  Of course, I haven't tried to watch them yet...

 

So, what the heck happened?  How do I prevent it?  And how do I delete the crapped-up HD and hd shares?  Just having them on there is causing me grief.  Also, any way to ask unRAID to perform a disk check to make sure all the files are intact?

everything in Linux is case sensitive

 

anyway, when you have made sure you have everything in the folder you want, the easiest way to remove the share is to stop the array and telnet to your unRAID, fire up mc and delete the folders with the wrong names from all possible disks

 

when you restart the array, the wrong share should be missing

 

 

Won't this technique mess up parity?

yes

 

 

if you stop the array as instructed above, the disks will be unmounted, and unless you go through the steps of manually mounting them, you can't delete files or move things around (and mess up parity)

 

The instructions were close however.  Easiest might be to temporarily disable user-shares and enable read/write disk shares.

Then, move things around as you want using etiher windows explorer or by logging in using telnet, typing "mc" at the prompt, and using midnight commander.

If you use the telnet client built into windows the function keys in mc will not work, but you can use escape-1 through escape-9 to simulate them (escape followed by the number)

 

If you use "putty" (a free telnet client you can download from the web and install on your PC) the function keys will work and even the mouse will work.

 

As already mentioned, in Linux, everything is case-sensitive. Once you get the folders and disks as you prefer, you can re-enable user-shares.

 

By not stopping the array, parity is maintained as you move files around.

 

Joe L.

yes much better

 

I said what I said because that's about what I did when I first built my array, where I didn't have an assigned parity disk (which I risked and added last, after all moves and setup)

 

 

Ok, I already used (or tried to use...) PuTTY and MC to move folders and files from disk to disk directly.

 

I already have my disk shares set up as export, r/w, hidden.  My user shares are export, read-only.  I use this method so that I can get to the files/folders but when anyone else accesses the server through the shares, they can't accidentally mess anything up.

 

Also, I do not have a parity disk.

 

What is the reason to disable the user shares?  And by disabling user shares, I can go in via the disk share, delete the now-empty "HD" and "hd" folders, and when I re-enable user shares, both those shares will just "disappear"

 

 

 

What is the reason to disable the user shares?  And by disabling user shares, I can go in via the disk share, delete the now-empty "HD" and "hd" folders, and when I re-enable user shares, both those shares will just "disappear"

Exactly.

what is the point of using unRAID, without parity?

 

 

what is the point of using unRAID, without parity?

 

you have the same question or question my question?

 

 

This thread is not about running unRAID without parity.  This thread is about user shares.  Just seemed a totally random question.

 

IMO, the only time it makes sense to run an unRAID array without parity protection is if you are loading the array.

I think it's funny...  every time I mention that I am running unRAID without parity, someone asks "why run unRAID without parity?", and I can almost see the dumbfounded look on their face as they contemplate what a complete nitwit I must be to try such a careless thing...

 

Ok, I'll tell you.  For me, the software RAID feature of unRAID is nice to have, but not one of the main reasons I bought the product.  Many people mistake RAID for data redundancy, but it's not.  I want true redundancy, so I use unRAID itself as my backup, which coincidentally lends itself nicely to my other primary purpose: creating a centralized, low-power, always-available repository for that data.  That's all I want or need from my unRAID server, and it does that perfectly without a parity drive.

 

If I had the money for a 24TB server, maybe the cost of a parity drive (*and* the cost of a cache drive to ameliorate the performance penalty) would not be an issue.  Unfortunately, for me, it is an issue, and I'd rather have an extra 500GB of movies, knowing I might have to rerip a HD's worth if one fails.

 

In short, the added complexity, decreased performance, and wasted space is decidedly not worth it to me at this moment.

 

Yes, I could've used any number of other products (some free!) that provided adequate functionality without the neato RAID, but I was completely hooked by unRAID's ease of installation, super-cool USB Flash Drive boot model, intuitive if simple web interface, and perhaps most importantly, the active developer support and uber-helpful user community.  So I am a happy user of unRAID without RAID (wait, isn't *that* redundant??? )

 

Back to the topic, I am looking at my server, and it is unclear to me what "disable user shares" means.  How do I do that?

 

 

ok I am still not "satisfied by the reply", but it is off topic, maybe if we open one just for that... anyway

 

to your question, you must have at least once passed through all (very few) options you have in unRAID interface right?

you click "shares" and then wow, third choice from the top is "user shares: enabled" (or disabled, duh) and "(array must be stopped to change)"

(now the next question is "how do I stop the array?" )

 

(hope nobody is offended, it is just my way of relaxed friendly conversation)

 

 

ok I am still not "satisfied by the reply", but it is off topic, maybe if we open one just for that... anyway

 

to your question, you must have at least once passed through all (very few) options you have in unRAID interface right?

you click "shares" and then wow, third choice from the top is "user shares: enabled" (or disabled, duh) and "(array must be stopped to change)"

(now the next question is "how do I stop the array?" )

 

(hope nobody is offended, it is just my way of relaxed friendly conversation)

 

Fair enough--like I said, I'm not here to convince anyone to not use parity, but I have thought it through enough for myself.   However, it has also inspired me a little--like my new sig??? 

 

Yes, I have passed through those options, and I am happy to announce that user shares are already disabled!  I guess I don't use that feature either!    All my shares are read-only--I write to the folders by going through the (hidden) disk shares.  I guess I thought I had to disable all the shares themselves, and I didn't see an option for disabling even a single share, let alone all of them.

 

So, now all I do is just delete folders straight from Windows Explorer?  And that will not have a deleterious effect on the unRAID server that lists those folders as shares?  It'll just dynamically remove them from the share list, eh?

 

And yes, I know how to stop the array already.  But I guess I deserved that...    (and no offense taken, of course)

 

 

ok so issue resolved