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drive status inconsistant between unraid main menu and unmenu

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Hi,

 

Just thought I would post this up.  Running 5RC10.

 

I noticed that on the main unraid menu one drive it listed with a temperature, and the others are spun up.  This is after being on for a long time, and the drive should have spun down.  I only have 2 data drives at the moment, and media is shared across both, so they should both spin up, when in use.

 

Anyway, today I noticed unmenu has them all listed as spun down!!  Screen shots are attached, and yes I tried F5 to refresh the page, and I've rebooted, this is a persistant issue.

 

So any ideas which one is correct?

 

One thing I did notice is that the 2x2Tb drives (Partiy & Disk2) are 4K aligned, but the 1Tb is unaligned.

 

Syslog attached. :)

 

Photos (had to load them to photobucket, too big)

th_unraidissueunraidmenu_zpsb3b12fe2.jpgth_unraidissueunmenumenu_zps0297313f.jpg

syslog-2013-01-29.txt

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I was playing around yesterday fixing the crond error issue I was having, and found the source (my UMS DLNA server) and I noticed that this issue has also not come back.

 

It was persistent over a few reboots, and I still think it was strange that they both had different information.

... I still think it was strange that they both had different information.

 

Not really strange ... if they derive the information in different ways.

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Well it might be nothing mate, but I would have thought if the drive was on, it would say on, and off it would say off.

 

How either get there data doesn't matter to me, only that they report what is actually happening with the drive.  Is it on or off, I don't have a clue.

 

I did notice that unraids menu doesn't change even when I spin down the drives.  But I would like to know which one is correct! :)

 

Also it seemed strange to me that only one drive is spun up, because they are part of a 2 drive pool for all my data and it's the only unaligned disk left over in my system.

  • 2 weeks later...
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This issue has appeared again.

 

Seems to only effect drive 1, the only unaligned drive.

 

I know unraid, and unmenu might get their info from different places, but it seems strange that unraid is reporting only 1 drive spun up and reporting a temp, because if any files are accessed on the server it spins up all 3 drives.  Mainly because I have all the shares set to pool across disk1,disk2.

 

Anyone experiencing the same?  Anyone have unaligned and aligned discs in an array and getting a similar issues?

 

I am considering upgrading my 1Tb drive to a 2Tb drive, it's been precleared as aligned, so that might solve the issue, then I can preclear the old 1Tb and add that in as extra storage.

 

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But I would like to know which one is correct! :)

...

 

 

So walk to the server and (open it up if necessary) to see if the drive in question is spun up or not.  The drive motor will cause enough vibration that you will be able to tell.

Hi,

 

Just thought I would post this up.  Running 5RC10.

 

I noticed that on the main unraid menu one drive it listed with a temperature, and the others are spun up.  This is after being on for a long time, and the drive should have spun down.  I only have 2 data drives at the moment, and media is shared across both, so they should both spin up, when in use.

 

Anyway, today I noticed unmenu has them all listed as spun down!!  Screen shots are attached, and yes I tried F5 to refresh the page, and I've rebooted, this is a persistant issue.

 

So any ideas which one is correct?

 

One thing I did notice is that the 2x2Tb drives (Partiy & Disk2) are 4K aligned, but the 1Tb is unaligned.

 

I've been seeing the same thing, and have (in the background) been trying to test if it is related to a plugin or not ... however, if I turn off all the plugins, then I am no longer able to compare UnRaid Main to UnMenu Main.

 

What I've also seen is occasionally I'll be on the UnRaid Main menu, and when I click "Refresh", it spins up a drive ... with the inconsistent reporting, it's difficult to know what's exactly happening.  Nothing in the SysLog when the drive spins up, either.

 

In my experience, I think the UnMenu Main is correct, since oftentimes the system has been sitting idle for hours, so there's no reason to have any drives spinning.  Again, this has primarily been a background task, so I don't have a lot of hard data recorded yet.

 

I'm also running RC11a.

Keep in mind that the unraid main screen does not automatically refresh - you must press F5 or the refresh button to get the current status.  The screens in unmenu automatically refresh every few minutes.

 

Press F5/refresh on both of them and compare the statuses.

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So walk to the server and (open it up if necessary) to see if the drive in question is spun up or not.  The drive motor will cause enough vibration that you will be able to tell.

I have done that, but it's a small HP N40L, and I have an apps drive that runs constantly just above in the optical bay.  Strange as it may seem it felt like my 2Tb drive was spinning, not the 1Tb drive that is listed as spun up in the unraid menu.

 

I've been seeing the same thing, and have (in the background) been trying to test if it is related to a plugin or not ... however, if I turn off all the plugins, then I am no longer able to compare UnRaid Main to UnMenu Main.

 

What I've also seen is occasionally I'll be on the UnRaid Main menu, and when I click "Refresh", it spins up a drive ... with the inconsistent reporting, it's difficult to know what's exactly happening.  Nothing in the SysLog when the drive spins up, either.

 

In my experience, I think the UnMenu Main is correct, since oftentimes the system has been sitting idle for hours, so there's no reason to have any drives spinning.  Again, this has primarily been a background task, so I don't have a lot of hard data recorded yet.

 

I'm also running RC11a.

 

I actually just did this myself.  My system was idle, so I loaded up //Tower in my browser, and it pauses, and you can hear a drive spin up (which sounded like my Seagate 2Tb drive NOT the 1Tb drive unraid is reporting as spun up.  The Seagate has a very unique spin up sound), and then the unraid menu appears, and disk1 is spinning.  unmenu reports the drive not spinning still.

 

I've only got 3 drives, and I've got all my shares set to highwater, and across my two data drives.  I thought unraid spun up both drives when I access media so having 1 report as running is a little strange.

 

FYI this is the drive that reports as spun up.  It's always this drive.  disk1 SAMSUNG_HD103UI_S1LMJX0Z900112 (sdc) 976762552 but this drive is the one that felt like it was running disk2 ST2000DM001-9YN164_S2F008LP (sdd) 1953514552

 

It's not a major issue, but will be using a bit of power if it's spinning.  I'm just reporting it here so that others can say if they have experienced it or not, and hopefully Tom can take a look at the problem if he sees fit. :)

  • 2 months later...
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Just to update regarding this issue.  I experienced it on and off, and then decided to expand my storage by replacing the 1Tb drive unaligned drive, with a new pre-cleared 2TB ST2000DM001 drive which is aligned.  I haven't seen this issue since, either all drives are running or all drives are spun down.  I'm going to buy unraid, and preclear the 1Tb as a aligned drive, and expand the storage once again just to be the on the safe side. :)

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