Can we please get DVD Drivers added in the future. I think most people would like to rip DVDS they own directly to their server instead of from a local pc and then copy it over.

My nickel's worth is that I disagree.

 

Many (if not most) UnRAID servers don't even have an optical drive;  they're often located where it wouldn't be convenient at all to "feed" discs;  and there's a relative dearth of good DVD rippers for Linux relative to those available for Windows.

 

Further, you can certainly rip DVDs directly to your server from a Windows box => just select the server as your destination for the rip.

 

 

My nickel's worth is that I disagree.

 

Many (if not most) UnRAID servers don't even have an optical drive;  they're often located where it wouldn't be convenient at all to "feed" discs;  and there's a relative dearth of good DVD rippers for Linux relative to those available for Windows.

 

Further, you can certainly rip DVDs directly to your server from a Windows box => just select the server as your destination for the rip.

 

+1

 

I agree.

I would like for the basic drivers to be installed into the kernel. It doesn't necessarily have to be supported, but it would sure make some of our lives easier.  This was one of the reasons I felt the need to go to ESX.

another reason is that people who run Virtual Box would then have access to a DVD drive. I guess it would not be a huge deal to alot of people, it is simply something i would like to see. This should not negatively impact anyone while providing more of a robust feature set to everyone.

Availability in Virtual Box does make a reasonable case for including the drivers.

 

Although I think it's fairly clear that if you want to run VMs on the same hardware you're using for UnRAID, an ESXi solution is appreciably better => faster hypervisor; lets you run stock UnRAID and put all your other "stuff" in a separate VM (improving UnRAID reliability); etc.    And in that case, you don't need the drivers in UnRAID 

 

... as usual, it's a trade-off.  Easy to see both sides, but I still tend towards the "not needed" side of this particular fence.

 

I have always been a fan of keep it simple and keep it clean.

 

If unraid is supposed to be a mediastorage, then let it be a storage. If the community wants to write plugins etc, that is just fine, great communitys like this one will help the development and will accomodate those with special needs.

 

I'd rather see the developers work on stability, effiency and security on the core of what unraid is: Storage.

 

AiO-appliances will always be jack of all trades, good at many things but not excellent at anything. Let unraid be excellent! 

Plenty of NAS boxes use DVDs. Some even list cool DVD features are key purpose. e.g. pizza box used to rave about auto backing up and CD/DVD placed in it.

 

Other do things like auto rite a bun ch of critical things to a DVDr if one is ever seen.

 

DVD/CD drivers should be there to allow the community to work on this

At least compile in the basic drivers. Tom doesn't have to support it.

We can request he compiles the drivers in and as a community we support it.

At least compile in the basic drivers. Tom doesn't have to support it.

We can request he compiles the drivers in and as a community we support it.

Or, compile the drivers as modules.  Those who want to experiment can download and install them.  They'll need to use additional software to do anything with them regardless.

that would be awesome! 

Agree -- the would make them available to those who wanted/needed them;  but not "clutter" UnRAID with normally unused modules.

 

One thing that fundamentally worries me is when someone requests something and the thread seems to ALWAYS end up as "this should be done as and addon" or similar.

 

Whilst there is merit in this most of the time it doesnt mean all of the time.

 

This is a case in point if we add CD/DVD support it should work for every unRAID for ever more. Its not a huge burden on anything or anyone but what we dont want to get into is a position where things end up breaking./.... and that WILL happen with 3rd party addons and modules.

 

The danger is we end up in a sitatiuon where unRAID gets tainted by lack of 3rd party adon suport

 

 

I still don't think they're needed for UnRAID (How many folks use optical drives with UnRAID ??) ... but IF they're going to be supported, you bring up a good point about consistency.

 

I'm not a Linux guy, so I don't know just how much of an issue this is ... but I'm sure Tom will decide whether or not it's worth incorporating the drivers.

 

I'd like CD support only because It would allow unRAID to be a bit more flexible. Modules or add ons I'm not picky. Would I truly use it now, but just my two cents.

 

I backup my website via a cron script and as well I used to burn that copy to a CD once a week on my old Linux server. I would shelf the disk and if my site was hacked I could reload the disk. Sure enough my site was hit and oddly enough I ended up backing up that hack since it happened the same evening I normally download it. I just popped in the CD and ftp'd it back up.

 

I've since started archiving weeks worth of backups on my unRAID machine by date so I can reload any backup from the last few months.

I would use it to burn any .ISO images I store on my unRAID server direct to CD-R/CD-RW/DVD-R/DVD-RW when needed.

 

Allot of times I'll set up a directory, Use mkisofs and ISOLinux and make special Music CD's or Boot CD's.

 

I started to do that with unRAID, but right after I recompiled the kernel, a new version came out.

I was to lazy to do it all over again.

At that time I was building a special bootable unRAID and rescue cd.

It had a bunch of tools along with unRAID to help recovery if your boot flash didn't work or your motherboard did not support USB boot.

 

At that time I had IDE and USB.

I probably wouldn't use IDE, but I would sure like to support a USB Burner of some sort.

(along with a USB multi device hard drive chassis).

 

So would I use it, yes. However, I'm not a regular user either. <GRIN>

A module is fine for me. although I'm not sure how it all works with udev.

 

I would expect there to be some rules required to detect and name the device correctly.

Sometime ago I did some tests and to avoid changing kernel image I did compiled sound card drivers as well as dvb-t drivers and other media tree related as modules and to make them work with already plugged devices I did just used to install/copy modules to the right dir's and then just do a 'depmod -a' and 'udevadm trigger --action=change' the last one would make udev "recognize" the devices and load the right modules, and it did worked really fine. I did even created some slackware packages for own usage to install such drivers automatically when required. I guess maybe your could use a similar method to detect DVD device?