June 15, 201313 yr Back in April, I bought one of the 24 bay Supermicro servers. I finally got the modifications complete, and it's been running for eleven days on version 5.0-rc13. No issues at all. The disks run cool, and that's great. One minor issue is with the UPS appears to not be reporting correct values on the freewill/Settings/apcupsd page, but that's not a huge deal. I'll end up swapping its ES 550G for a BR1000G anyway. But I'm scared to load it up with data. Scared as hell. It's got 8tb of free space just sitting there, and I don't want to use it. Help me. :'(
June 15, 201313 yr What are you "scared" about? Just do the following ... (a) Update it to RC15 (b) Run a parity test to confirm all is well and © Load 'er up Don't forget, however, that UnRAID (or any other RAID) is NOT a backup. So be sure you have backups of your data
June 15, 201313 yr Author What are you "scared" about? Problems. Just any weird problem that pops up and forces me to spend time fixing it. Just do the following ... (a) Update it to RC15 (b) Run a parity test to confirm all is well and © Load 'er up Don't forget, however, that UnRAID (or any other RAID) is NOT a backup. So be sure you have backups of your data I decided I'll copy the data, instead of cut. Leave it in both locations for a while...
June 15, 201313 yr What are you "scared" about? Problems. Just any weird problem that pops up and forces me to spend time fixing it. Just do the following ... (a) Update it to RC15 (b) Run a parity test to confirm all is well and © Load 'er up Don't forget, however, that UnRAID (or any other RAID) is NOT a backup. So be sure you have backups of your data I decided I'll copy the data, instead of cut. Leave it in both locations for a while... One VERY SIMPLE rule for any data you store on a computer: If it's important to you and you'd be upset if you lost it, it should ALWAYS be stored in at least two different places [And a fault-tolerant RAID does NOT count as "two" places.] ALL of my 40TB of media and other data is completely backed up in addition to being on my UnRAID servers.
June 15, 201313 yr I store all my data out on the bittorrent sites. That way when my computer is destroyed again, I can fire up bittorrent and everyone will help me re-populate my server again. LOL!!! <not really> Jeff, if you are that concerned about your data. Do an md5sum or md5deep on your source data. after you copy over your data. bring over the md5sum file and run md5sum again. When you are ready to remove your data, run the md5sum on the destination again to insure nothing changed that you did not expect. FWIW, copying data from windows to unRAID, I use teracopy which reads back the data and compares the CRC.
June 15, 201313 yr I decided I'll copy the data, instead of cut. Leave it in both locations for a while... Use tera copy to copy the files across. It does and MD5 on the files in the source and destination to make sure they match.
June 15, 201313 yr Author I used Tera Copy when I first started using unRAID. For the same reasons; I had all of my content sitting on four different machines and wanted to copy it first, confirm everything was okay, then remove from it the source.
June 16, 201313 yr I use TeraCopy as well ... confirms a good copy is on the server. I then use TeraCopy again to move the original to my backup disk. Then, when my current backup disk is full (~ once/year) I use FolderMatch to confirm the actual binary contents match the server ... and then store the disk in my fireproof/waterproof safe
June 16, 201313 yr I store all my data out on the bittorrent sites. That way when my computer is destroyed again, I can fire up bittorrent and everyone will help me re-populate my server again. LOL!!! https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!msg/linux.dev.kernel/2OEgUvDbNbo/bTk-VE1zrnYJ
June 18, 201313 yr 90% of my data is replaceable the same way I sourced it. I backup photos and documents, that's about it. You chaps are paranoid over some movies
June 18, 201313 yr Wouldn't call it paranoid => just prudent. I do NOT want to have to re-rip 4,000 movies; re-categorize them; re-compress them; etc. It's easily worth one extra hard drive/year to keep a complete backup of everything.
June 18, 201313 yr I store all my data out on the bittorrent sites. That way when my computer is destroyed again, I can fire up bittorrent and everyone will help me re-populate my server again. LOL!!! https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!msg/linux.dev.kernel/2OEgUvDbNbo/bTk-VE1zrnYJ I tip my hat to you for your obscure Linus Torvalds quote from 17 years ago.
June 18, 201313 yr That whole thread is gold I like this quote: "Now, I have to admit that the profanities seem to show up a lot more in the sparc code than in the rest of the kernel"... LOL having worked at Sun for a couple years, yeah that's understandable. ** ** No, I didn't write any of that f*cked up sparc code, I wrote f*cked up code in Network Storage division
June 18, 201313 yr That whole thread is gold I like this quote: "Now, I have to admit that the profanities seem to show up a lot more in the sparc code than in the rest of the kernel"... LOL having worked at Sun for a couple years, yeah that's understandable. Agree, there are some GREAT quotes in there. I particularly like "... Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ..." ... some of us are even old enough to remember tape backups
June 18, 201313 yr That whole thread is gold I like this quote: "Now, I have to admit that the profanities seem to show up a lot more in the sparc code than in the rest of the kernel"... LOL having worked at Sun for a couple years, yeah that's understandable. Agree, there are some GREAT quotes in there. I particularly like "... Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ..." ... some of us are even old enough to remember tape backups I still have some recently decommissioned 400/800 tapes and drives sitting around. Loads of Universities are still backing up to tape and paying the ore bunker companies to pick it up each week. I just tossed some old tadaran 30/60s I had in my house. Haha. If I can ever consolidate all of my data to a single array, I will likely back it up. Much more fun to poke at you though gary.
June 18, 201313 yr ... some of us are even old enough to remember tape backups We actually still use tape backups for some of the older systems at the hospital I work for.
June 18, 201313 yr Still use tape here too. It's not cost effective to backup petabytes of data to the same capacity again of disk (remember you have to pay for power to spin it versus nothing for tape as well as the physical real estate disk arrays will take over tape libraries). Once you cross a certain scale tape becomes much, much cheaper. To be more precise a mix of disk staging with tape all the way up to a full hierarchical storage management implementation lets you put the price / performance sweet spot wherever you want it. Double, maybe even low triple digit terabytes is chump change in terms of capacity these days. Shove that onto disk for cheap sure - but scaling into petabytes....
June 18, 201313 yr Yes, I'm well aware that enterprise backups still use very high capacity tapes. I was referring more to the PC world -- which I think tends to be the domain most likely to use UnRAID No major enterprise storage is going to be trusted to a large array with single failure fault tolerance and the very low (relative) performance of UnRAID. IBM, Iron Mountain, etc. will be in business for a long time with their systems that automate backups approaching exabytes of data.
June 19, 201313 yr That whole thread is gold I like this quote: "Now, I have to admit that the profanities seem to show up a lot more in the sparc code than in the rest of the kernel"... LOL having worked at Sun for a couple years, yeah that's understandable. Agree, there are some GREAT quotes in there. I particularly like "... Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ..." ... some of us are even old enough to remember tape backups I remember loading/saving programs to paper tape (high school) Then of course saving/loading programs from casette tapes also.
June 19, 201313 yr ahh the dulcet sounds of a C64 tape played at "Eleven" in my stereo ... those were the days my friend. Those. Where. The. Days.
June 19, 201313 yr Then, of course, there's the good old days of wiring a plugboard for an IBM 407 Accounting Machine to program it to handle the decks of cards you fed it with all the data [That was my first computer-related job when I was a freshman in college ... 50+ years ago !!]
June 19, 201313 yr oh yeah? OH YEAH ... well ... well *I* remember changing vacuum tubes on a Univac. [That was before I was a gleam in my fathers eye!!!] ;-)
June 19, 201313 yr oh yeah? OH YEAH ... well ... well *I* remember changing vacuum tubes on a Univac. [That was before I was a gleam in my fathers eye!!!] ;-) Actually I've walked through (yes, walked through) some of those old vacuum tube computers while they were still in use !!
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