pyrater Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Looking at Zeroshell, Smoothwall, pFsense. I want the following feature set: Basic router features Web management with traffic graphs VPN server IDS/IPS Muilt-wan play nice with unraid as a VM Anyone have any good recommendations or thoughts? http://www.zeroshell.org/ http://www.pfsense.org/ http://www.smoothwall.org/ Quote Link to comment
ironicbadger Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Don't forget untangle Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
pyrater Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 i love untangle the web interface is awesome but i dont want to pay 200.00 per year for multi-wan and other misc. packages. If the prices for home user packages were more reasonable i would go for that! plus i didnt think untangled worked as a wifi access point Quote Link to comment
vl1969 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 What about ipfire or sophos? I have loaded both in virtbox and both looks very capable. . Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
ironicbadger Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Pfsense is the one I've heard the most about, and used it for a few months before I broke the config and never bothered to fix it. Pfsense was great, mainly for the graphs. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
marcusone Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Pfsense or monowall (there are lots of others but those two are the easiest to get going imho) Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment
marcusone Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Just read your list and uses. Pfsense is what you want. I've been running it in vmware for 4+ years. Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment
Loch Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Still use Smoothwall because I haven't touched it in years. It used to have a terrific community but it slowed up a lot a few years back. I'd probably go with pfsense these days (although never ran any in a VM) Quote Link to comment
marcusone Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Just checked one of my Pfsense and its been up for 376 days :-) Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment
smakovits Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Pfsense or monowall (there are lots of others but those two are the easiest to get going imho) Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk 2 i believe pfsense is a fork of monowall or vice versa. I also believe monowall just released an update, so while I never used monowall, I assume, you cant go wrong with either. Quote Link to comment
smakovits Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Still use Smoothwall because I haven't touched it in years. It used to have a terrific community but it slowed up a lot a few years back. I'd probably go with pfsense these days (although never ran any in a VM) I was a smoothwall guy till I had to rebuild every time there was an update and it broke the mods. hoping the new versions brings new life Quote Link to comment
pyrater Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 I feel like Goldilocks untangled = too expensive pfsense = too limited out of the box zeroshell = a pain to set up sophos = too much dd-wrt = too limited (multiwan) ( for me ) this is not meant to start a flame war, they are all great distros im just being picky lol. I basically want untangled but without the 200.00 per year sub for antivirus and multiwan. Im sure each one could do what i need/want, but i dont want to speed 4 hours hacking it up to make it work. Quote Link to comment
smakovits Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Don't forget untangle Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk From my experience, untangle uses crazy resources compared to pfsense which is where my vote it. Not to mention it is not completely free if I recall when you want certain plugins. ipfire is OK, but never got into it too much beyond an install. Last I recall the plugins lacked. clear OS is another I have messed with, they have a vm appliance pre made too for esx, so not sure of the conversion to xen, but maybe. It was very involved, super complex, so it could be good. pfsense has a smaller learning curve in my opinion Quote Link to comment
smakovits Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I feel like Goldilocks untangled = too expensive pfsense = too limited out of the box zeroshell = a pain to set up sophos = too much dd-wrt = too limited (multiwan) ( for me ) this is not meant to start a flame war, they are all great distros im just being picky lol. I basically want untangled but without the 200.00 per year sub for antivirus and multiwan. Im sure each one could do what i need/want, but i dont want to speed 4 hours hacking it up to make it work. pfsense in my opinion is not limited at all out of the box. add-ons make it better, but overall it is ready to go. 1 Quote Link to comment
mjorud Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'm running pfSense VM on my ESXi box and it has never failed me. It HAS to work as I'm away from home quite often and my gf is not very tolerant when it comes to my "hobby" not working (the same box is also serving Live-TV and media). Quote Link to comment
pyrater Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 I have narrowed it down to pFsense or untangled not sure which one, probably pfsense. Time to dig into addons, multiwan and snort/IDS. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mojo Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I have narrowed it down to pFsense or untangled not sure which one, probably pfsense. Time to dig into addons, multiwan and snort/IDS. On my ESXi 5.5, I use both pfsense and unTangle lite/free in Bridge mode. Both has ESXi VM appliances, so it was pretty simple to setup. pfSense handles Firewall/DHCP/DNS/snort&IDS and unTangle does the UTM stuff. Lots of googling helped since I'm not a network specialist. Quote Link to comment
BLKMGK Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I use ClearOS on a small Atom appliance and have for years. I need to upgrade to the newest code but have enjoyed their free version for awhile. I wild like some better reporting and whatnot though for sure. I'd love to find something that logged DNS queries too! Darkstat on unRAID has been handy too. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
Ockingshay Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Well, I keep seeing this type of discussion cropping up and I think to myself that I must be missing something interesting here. Sooooo, seeing that pfsense normally wins out, off I go, googling it to try and find out what this mythical beast is all aboot. I start reading the overview and features and I think to myself....I don't get it. I then try to relate to it of what I already know and come up with the same answer...surely my router does all this already...besides the graphing and logging etc, but then I'm not a network administrator for a company, so why would I want to use this at home. I'm sure my cat isn't trying to hack my porn collection! So please, I ask of you, put me out of my ignorance & misery and explain to me the point of this is. In what scenario are you lot using this? I so desperately want to install and try it out, but fear it's going to a) interfere with any normal router I may have and b) take a while to configure for me to simply delete it. Cheers! A lost soul Quote Link to comment
johnodon Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The beauty of virtualization...you can create as many VMs as you like. Wanna try pfsense....fire up that VM. Wanna try ClearOS...shutdown pfSense and fire up the ClearOS one. My advice is to try each one for 2 weeks. That is what I did (multiple times). In the end I always come back to pfSense. John Quote Link to comment
mmgarci30 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hi mates, And what about vyatta ( http://vyatta.org/ )? I've several vm running vyatta to simulate a complex enterprise architecture in our lab. Quote Link to comment
phreshjive Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Well, I keep seeing this type of discussion cropping up and I think to myself that I must be missing something interesting here. Sooooo, seeing that pfsense normally wins out, off I go, googling it to try and find out what this mythical beast is all aboot. I start reading the overview and features and I think to myself....I don't get it. I then try to relate to it of what I already know and come up with the same answer...surely my router does all this already...besides the graphing and logging etc, but then I'm not a network administrator for a company, so why would I want to use this at home. I'm sure my cat isn't trying to hack my porn collection! So please, I ask of you, put me out of my ignorance & misery and explain to me the point of this is. In what scenario are you lot using this? I so desperately want to install and try it out, but fear it's going to a) interfere with any normal router I may have and b) take a while to configure for me to simply delete it. Cheers! A lost soul Here is a simple scenario: using a VPN service for all and/or some of your traffic. Most off-the-shelf routers would dramatically slow down (e.g. 30Mbps turns into 6) if you wanted your VPN service running on your router. Quote Link to comment
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