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[SOLVED] Supermicro MB + 3Ware + Norco 4020

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got this card

3Ware AMCC 12 Port SATA PCI-X RAID Controller W/ 12 SATA Cables 9550SX-12SI

with what it seems to be http://www.esaitech.com/molex-79576-3003-internal-minisas-sff-8087-to-4-7-pin-sata-sas-fanout-cable.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw6J2eBRCpqaW0857k9p4BEiQAWarYbHSCOI5O9AywtYxU2yGFSEq5C-SzjqtZ6F0u0-_m0ksaAsZH8P8HAQ

 

look exactly like that..

 

slot #1 of mb, i see the card bios - i can enter with alt-3... no drives...

Drives led are light.

tried all backplane combinations

 

i connected p0-p1-p2-p3 on raid card from bottom going up, to plane on bottom of norco 4020,

i see green light of backplane light up when i put a drive on that level .

 

drives are SAS IBM X-server drives. 150gig.

 

im running out of ideas. what else can i do ? if on boot i dont see them i wont see them later on neither , so i must pass this step.

 

is it possible that my cable is forward/reverse wrong ?

 

why would they make 4 sata to sas connectors in reverse ?

 

norco is the style where it has

 

4 MOLEX MOLEX --------------------- PLUG SAS/SATA ---------------- 4 pin ? ------------------10 pin ?

3 MOLEX MOLEX --------------------- PLUG SAS/SATA ---------------- 4 pin ? ------------------10 pin ?

2 MOLEX MOLEX --------------------- PLUG SAS/SATA ---------------- 4 pin ? ------------------10 pin ?

1 MOLEX MOLEX --------------------- PLUG SAS/SATA ---------------- 4 pin ? ------------------10 pin ?

 

tried connecting backplanes 1-2-3 and backplanes 4-3-2

 

 

 

 

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cable is this COMAX SERIAL ATA 30AWG E173433-D AWM STYLE 2725

 

its a 4 sata to sas or whatever the connector is on norco backplane

 

should i get

 

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4291342&csid=_61

 

?

 

this https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10254&cs_id=1025406&p_id=8187&seq=1&format=2 is to connect from mb to norco only right ?

 

btw neweeg shows as motherboard OR raid card..

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133033&cm_re=norco-_-16-133-033-_-Product

 

 

not sure on this one..

 

ill get the diger direct i guess

 

 

another conflicting post...

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=10547.msg100303#msg100303

 

it says reverse is for mobo to backplane...

 

here too http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=16307.msg150715#msg150715

 

this one says reverse is for controler to norco

 

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=11787.msg112472#msg112472

 

 

so which is it ?

 

i need from 3ware 12 port to -> norco backplane.

Starting from the controller to the drives it works like this

 

Mini-SAS ===> Forward Breakout Cable ===> SATA Ports

SATA Ports ===> Reverse Breakout Cable ===> Mini-SAS

 

Sound like you need a reverse breakout cable.

 

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thats waht i got currently but the norco 4020 's drives are not seen.

 

not sure what option i could change in bios.

 

 

Zugman is correct, the cable you listed at the very top (the "fanout" cable) is a forward cable for connecting SAS -> SATA. You need a reverse cable for connecting SATA -> SAS, specifically one like the "NORCO C-SFF8087-4S Discrete to SFF-8087" that you listed.

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wow this is confusing...

norco said forward..

 

 

You need forward breakout cable for 4020. Please check.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Mike Wang

Norco Technologies Inc.

 

 

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me

 

Such as this right?

 

 

 

0.75m 30AWG Internal Mini SAS 36pin (SFF-8087) Male w/ Latch to SATA 7pin Female (x4) Forward Breakout Cable - Black

 

 

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norco

 

Yes

 

Thanks and Regards,

Mike Wang

Norco Technologies Inc.

17531 Railroad Street

Well. Uh. I don't know what to say, but Norco is wrong.

 

They even sell the correct cable for their case:

http://www.norcotek.com/item_detail.php?categoryid=6&modelno=c-sff8087-4s

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816133033

 

Note the part where it says:

Connector on Case Backplane End: 1 x 36-pin - SFF-8087.

Connector on Raid Controller or Motherboard End: 4 x 7-pin - SATA

 

Read here:

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=7003.0

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doesnt work, ill try the forward cable

the reverse from my raid card aint seeing drives, but bios =ok

 

ill let you know

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seems that now itried a normal SATA drive and it works.... but not the sas drives..

 

Drives are :

I ruled out the backplanes ( good news )

It’s the drives,

It seems plugging in a normal sata drive works, but not SAS.

 

My SAS drives are  IBM E Server Drives P/n 42C0251 146.8 GB 10k rpm SAS

Model ST9146802SS

 

http://discountechnology.com/Seagate-ST9146802SS-SAS-Hard-Drive#specs

 

 

 

any idea ?

I tried to look up the controller you are using.  I'm not sure I found the right one, but it appears to be a SATA controller and therefore does not support SAS drives.  Do you have the exact model number?

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i thikn your right... darn.. in description it does talk about SAS drives...

 

its an old 3Ware AMCC 12 Port SATA PCI-X RAID Controller W/ 12 SATA Cables 9550SX-12SI

 

from

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116033

in specs:

 

i see On-board PowerPC RISC processor provides true hardware RAID — SCSI device driver model to take advantage of the benefits of SCSI using inexpensive Serial ATA drives

 

oups...read that SAS, not SATA lol

 

oh well ill get new cards then

May I ask why you are messing with those low capacity SAS drives?

Why don't you get some fancy drives instead?

 

Although I don't know if your 3ware dino will support those big drives...

 

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oh coz i get them cheap , i dont hav 10k to put on 20 drives

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