G Speed Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 bump!! Still happening, syslog is still showing nothing.. Still 100% Random 7 Mins in.. a show... sometimes not at all 1:10 mins in a movie.. it's very very random Any chance for Samba 4.1.12 in next beta...? I think we are using 4.1.11 now Quote Link to comment
JustinChase Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Are you downloading with SABnzbd or similar while watching your videos? When I do this, and watch a move, when the download finishes and starts to rebuild/repair, my video playback goes to hell. I have to either pause the movie, wait for that to finish, then unpause the movie, or set SAB to only unpack from 2am to 6am, so that activity doesn't harm playback. Also, if I am watching something then I, or someone in the household tries to access something else on the array, which causes a drive to spinup, that will stutter playback also. this has been pretty consistent on version 5 and 6. I've seen several other reports of this from other people also. Quote Link to comment
G Speed Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Are you downloading with SABnzbd or similar while watching your videos? When I do this, and watch a move, when the download finishes and starts to rebuild/repair, my video playback goes to hell. I have to either pause the movie, wait for that to finish, then unpause the movie, or set SAB to only unpack from 2am to 6am, so that activity doesn't harm playback. Also, if I am watching something then I, or someone in the household tries to access something else on the array, which causes a drive to spinup, that will stutter playback also. this has been pretty consistent on version 5 and 6. I've seen several other reports of this from other people also. Sadly no.... sab is running on a different server. I have nothing at all running on the server.. I have also never a had problem with multiple people accessing a different drive or even the same drive.. to watch a movie or show.. Still happens when I'm the only one accessing/watching a movie.. Quote Link to comment
garycase Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Just to clarify, are you saying this issue never happens if there are multiple people accessing the server? ... but always happens when you're the only one? Quote Link to comment
G Speed Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Just to clarify, are you saying this issue never happens if there are multiple people accessing the server? ... but always happens when you're the only one? lol... it happens regardless if it's just me or multiple people in the household Quote Link to comment
garycase Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Okay, that makes more sense. I thought perhaps you were saying it didn't happen when multiple people were using it ... but what you meant was this didn't use to be a problem, regardless of how many folks were on the server -- but is now an issue. So the real question is "What has changed ??" Has ANYTHING been changed other than the version of UnRAID you're using? Quote Link to comment
G Speed Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Nothing... Tried a different switch and router too. Still same thing. The media player hasn't been updated in over a year lol Quote Link to comment
apgood Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Try swapping RAM and/or network card in your unraid server as they are other possible culprits. Quote Link to comment
G Speed Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Try swapping RAM and/or network card in your unraid server as they are other possible culprits. Already tested ram all good, network card is built into mobo, but if it was losing connection I would be able to see that in the syslog.. also would be able to see that in my router log. This has happened before.. Working Fine, Samba version XXX Next Version of Unraid, New Samba - Issues Next Version of Unraid, Newer Samba - All good I wish I could see what my media player was doing... Quote Link to comment
Brucey7 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Try swapping RAM and/or network card in your unraid server as they are other possible culprits. Already tested ram all good, network card is built into mobo, but if it was losing connection I would be able to see that in the syslog.. also would be able to see that in my router log. This has happened before.. Working Fine, Samba version XXX Next Version of Unraid, New Samba - Issues Next Version of Unraid, Newer Samba - All good I wish I could see what my media player was doing... You said you were having the same problems when you used a PC instead of a media player, right? Quote Link to comment
apgood Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Try swapping RAM and/or network card in your unraid server as they are other possible culprits. Already tested ram all good, network card is built into mobo, but if it was losing connection I would be able to see that in the syslog.. also would be able to see that in my router log. This has happened before.. Working Fine, Samba version XXX Next Version of Unraid, New Samba - Issues Next Version of Unraid, Newer Samba - All good I wish I could see what my media player was doing... If by testing RAM you mean a default Memtest then that might not be enough as it might not be stressing the RAM sufficiently. Do a Memtest with the smp mode enabled. I had a weird issue where movies were freezing (among other things) and the RAM was passing a normal Memtest. I did a SMP Memtest and it got stuck at the point where multiple cpu cores were accessing RAM at the same time. Changed RAM to some sticks that passed a full SMP Memtest and my issues went away. Quote Link to comment
G Speed Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Hey Everyone... still having this issue.. had the server off for 40+ days waiting for the next beta.. Well all installed, no plugins.. same issue.. Any ideas? Log shows nothing when it happens? I still think it's something to do with this samba: update to 4.1.11.. from 6.0-beta7 Which is from August 01/14 Where do I go to ask the developers, to upgrade.. 08 September 2014 - Samba 4.1.12 20 October 2014 - Samba 4.1.13 01 December 2014 - Samba 4.1.14 Quote Link to comment
Brucey7 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have started having the same problem. Unfortunately, I can only narrow it down to one of 2 things, it's either WD RED 6TB drives or it's unRAID 5.0.6 they are the only 2 things that are different. A work around is to set your spin down delay to longer than the movie and spin up the array. The other work around (which I prefer) is to copy the movie to my HTPC, that way my array is only spun up for 5 minutes or so. Quote Link to comment
umax Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I would bet it is your WD live box. I had exactly the same issue with my PCH-C200. Random freezes with movies. Tried everything network-unraid related, then I plugged in my old PCH-A110 and everything was working again. So now I've sold my C200 and bought a A410. I guess the network card on C200 gave away, as I have completely restored it with FW and the issue was still there. Quote Link to comment
G Speed Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have started having the same problem. Unfortunately, I can only narrow it down to one of 2 things, it's either WD RED 6TB drives or it's unRAID 5.0.6 they are the only 2 things that are different. A work around is to set your spin down delay to longer than the movie and spin up the array. The other work around (which I prefer) is to copy the movie to my HTPC, that way my array is only spun up for 5 minutes or so. I have tried my green's and red's, both do it.. Spin down doesn't matter, because when it freezes drive is still spinning. I would bet it is your WD live box. I had exactly the same issue with my PCH-C200. Random freezes with movies. Tried everything network-unraid related, then I plugged in my old PCH-A110 and everything was working again. So now I've sold my C200 and bought a A410. I guess the network card on C200 gave away, as I have completely restored it with FW and the issue was still there. It's the communication between unraid and wd live.. it's the only thing that makes sense.. Considering a flash card with same file, plays without a flaw on the wd live box Considering, I have been using my qnap box for the past 40 days without a hitch streamin to the wd live box.. which is hooked up to the same switch as the unraid box Quote Link to comment
umax Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It's the communication between unraid and wd live.. it's the only thing that makes sense.. Considering a flash card with same file, plays without a flaw on the wd live box Considering, I have been using my qnap box for the past 40 days without a hitch streamin to the wd live box.. which is hooked up to the same switch as the unraid box Ahh, now thats different. My NMT was freezing while streaming from UNRAID and PC, so I knew something was fishy with it. Thats strange indeed, as I am running 5.0.6 with spin-down delay of 15min and everything is working flawlessly. Quote Link to comment
G Speed Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 It's the communication between unraid and wd live.. it's the only thing that makes sense.. Considering a flash card with same file, plays without a flaw on the wd live box Considering, I have been using my qnap box for the past 40 days without a hitch streamin to the wd live box.. which is hooked up to the same switch as the unraid box Ahh, now thats different. My NMT was freezing while streaming from UNRAID and PC, so I knew something was fishy with it. Thats strange indeed, as I am running 5.0.6 with spin-down delay of 15min and everything is working flawlessly. Older version of samba Quote Link to comment
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