CHBMB Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I just have to get into this discussion Do you like mythweb for the nice EPG gui or does it offer something that tvheadend doesn't do regarding series recording? I haven't tried Mythtv, so I don't know anything about it. Well.. I tried to get it running, but it wouldn't see my DVB Adapters and I gave up in the end. Anyways... Series recordings is as easy as this in tvheadend: 1. Search for the show in the webgui. 2. Push info button. 3. Push Autorec. 4. Done Tvhclient is a nice client for scheduling recordings for handheld devices if that's what is needed. I guess I could have tried to get Mythtv running in a container, but I have other stuff on my priority list, so probably someone is going to beat me to it. Hints @ something sparkly To be honest I don't watch a great deal of Live or PVR TV. It's essential for my wife to be happy, I have no need to use Myth or anything else over TVHeadEnd, the only reason I would use a Myth docker is out of curiosity. I do believe that Myth has a lot of advanced features that some find necessary, and it certainly has some die-hard fans. TVHClient is awesome, how did I not know this existed. I've always been a bit puzzled why TVHeadEnd doesn't include a decent WebEPG view. Quote Link to comment
CHBMB Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 is all that backend setup for myth still gui based or have they grasped the modern world and gone webui ? I don't believe it's webui yet. Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I just have to get into this discussion Do you like mythweb for the nice EPG gui or does it offer something that tvheadend doesn't do regarding series recording? I haven't tried Mythtv, so I don't know anything about it. Well.. I tried to get it running, but it wouldn't see my DVB Adapters and I gave up in the end. Anyways... Series recordings is as easy as this in tvheadend: 1. Search for the show in the webgui. 2. Push info button. 3. Push Autorec. 4. Done Tvhclient is a nice client for scheduling recordings for handheld devices if that's what is needed. I guess I could have tried to get Mythtv running in a container, but I have other stuff on my priority list, so probably someone is going to beat me to it. Hints @ something sparkly To be honest I don't watch a great deal of Live or PVR TV. It's essential for my wife to be happy, I have no need to use Myth or anything else over TVHeadEnd, the only reason I would use a Myth docker is out of curiosity. I do believe that Myth has a lot of advanced features that some find necessary, and it certainly has some die-hard fans. TVHClient is awesome, how did I not know this existed. I've always been a bit puzzled why TVHeadEnd doesn't include a decent WebEPG view. it's the only daft bit about tvheadend, it's like we'll make this fast lean tv server that is relatively easy to set up , but we will give it the shittiest default web thing (i don't know what to call it, because it isn't an EPG). Quote Link to comment
johnodon Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 is all that backend setup for myth still gui based or have they grasped the modern world and gone webui ? You can do somethings in mythweb but nearly as much as the actual gui. really not an issue for me since I just use the KVM VNC instance. Can't that also be done in a container? No-VNC? Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 is all that backend setup for myth still gui based or have they grasped the modern world and gone webui ? You can do somethings in mythweb but nearly as much as the actual gui. really not an issue for me since I just use the KVM VNC instance. Can't that also be done in a container? No-VNC? i'd point someone in the direction of one of my libreoffice rdp containers, as a starting point. Quote Link to comment
saarg Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I just have to get into this discussion Do you like mythweb for the nice EPG gui or does it offer something that tvheadend doesn't do regarding series recording? I haven't tried Mythtv, so I don't know anything about it. Well.. I tried to get it running, but it wouldn't see my DVB Adapters and I gave up in the end. Anyways... Series recordings is as easy as this in tvheadend: 1. Search for the show in the webgui. 2. Push info button. 3. Push Autorec. 4. Done Tvhclient is a nice client for scheduling recordings for handheld devices if that's what is needed. I guess I could have tried to get Mythtv running in a container, but I have other stuff on my priority list, so probably someone is going to beat me to it. Hints @ something sparkly I like pretty. TBH...I could never understand the attraction to TVH. I really believe that it is such a PITA for that average Windows user to setup that Linux guys fell in love with it. But I have always found it to be flaky...not to mention that it was quite a dead project for a while. saarg...would the same Schedules Direct issue exist with Myth that does for TVH? Paging all sparkly's... John For me Mythtv was a PITA to set up, so I guess this is very indvidual Tvheadend has worked rock solid here at least the last two years. And it's getting better as the development has been opened up for other people. If you have to configure the tv_grab_thingy through command line, Mythtv docker would have the same problem. Quote Link to comment
johnodon Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'm probably stuck with a VM then as I rely on Schedules Direct for my guide data. Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 a quick look on the mythtv wiki, seems they are about as up to date over there as usual. it's not 2013 btw.... lol... Quote Link to comment
saarg Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I just have to get into this discussion Do you like mythweb for the nice EPG gui or does it offer something that tvheadend doesn't do regarding series recording? I haven't tried Mythtv, so I don't know anything about it. Well.. I tried to get it running, but it wouldn't see my DVB Adapters and I gave up in the end. Anyways... Series recordings is as easy as this in tvheadend: 1. Search for the show in the webgui. 2. Push info button. 3. Push Autorec. 4. Done Tvhclient is a nice client for scheduling recordings for handheld devices if that's what is needed. I guess I could have tried to get Mythtv running in a container, but I have other stuff on my priority list, so probably someone is going to beat me to it. Hints @ something sparkly To be honest I don't watch a great deal of Live or PVR TV. It's essential for my wife to be happy, I have no need to use Myth or anything else over TVHeadEnd, the only reason I would use a Myth docker is out of curiosity. I do believe that Myth has a lot of advanced features that some find necessary, and it certainly has some die-hard fans. TVHClient is awesome, how did I not know this existed. I've always been a bit puzzled why TVHeadEnd doesn't include a decent WebEPG view. it's the only daft bit about tvheadend, it's like we'll make this fast lean tv server that is relatively easy to set up , but we will give it the shittiest default web thing (i don't know what to call it, because it isn't an EPG). I think the important part is that tvheadend is the backend and not a frontend. That is probably why the EPG isn't pretty. Like it is now it's pretty fast to schedule recordings from a desktop, but it's not pretty. For pretty scheduling you can use all the frontends available, like Kodi or TVhclient. Quote Link to comment
saarg Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 is all that backend setup for myth still gui based or have they grasped the modern world and gone webui ? You can do somethings in mythweb but nearly as much as the actual gui. really not an issue for me since I just use the KVM VNC instance. Can't that also be done in a container? No-VNC? i'd point someone in the direction of one of my libreoffice rdp containers, as a starting point. I was thinking along those lines also Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I just have to get into this discussion Do you like mythweb for the nice EPG gui or does it offer something that tvheadend doesn't do regarding series recording? I haven't tried Mythtv, so I don't know anything about it. Well.. I tried to get it running, but it wouldn't see my DVB Adapters and I gave up in the end. Anyways... Series recordings is as easy as this in tvheadend: 1. Search for the show in the webgui. 2. Push info button. 3. Push Autorec. 4. Done Tvhclient is a nice client for scheduling recordings for handheld devices if that's what is needed. I guess I could have tried to get Mythtv running in a container, but I have other stuff on my priority list, so probably someone is going to beat me to it. Hints @ something sparkly I like pretty. TBH...I could never understand the attraction to TVH. I really believe that it is such a PITA for that average Windows user to setup that Linux guys fell in love with it. But I have always found it to be flaky...not to mention that it was quite a dead project for a while. saarg...would the same Schedules Direct issue exist with Myth that does for TVH? Paging all sparkly's... John For me Mythtv was a PITA to set up, so I guess this is very indvidual Tvheadend has worked rock solid here at least the last two years. And it's getting better as the development has been opened up for other people. If you have to configure the tv_grab_thingy through command line, Mythtv docker would have the same problem. command line config would be easy, because it's gui based setup i'd propose an rdp container similar to my libreoffice one, to get access to the gui setup and a terminal inside the container itself. Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'd try Myth if it were a docker, (I understand fully why that isn't going to happen) but for the hassle I've had in the past each time I've tried to install it, I'll stick with good old TVHeadEnd. It's funny you say that. I think TVH is 10x more of a pain in the ass then Mythbuntu. If you want help setting it up let me know and I can give you a hand offline. BTW...why would Myth be any harder than TVH to setup in a container? saarg did it with TVH. Why would Myth be that much more challenging? John Oh John, don't tempt me with another project. I'm a sucker for things like that, might take you up on the offer one day I thought Myth has a lot more dependencies, MySQL etc, TVHeadEnd seems a lot easier. Although Mythbuntu makes it a bit easier. Mythbuntu makes it very easy...at least for me since I have done it a half dozen times now. What do you use for tuners? This is what I love...Mythweb. Makes setting up series recordings a breeze. I just have to get into this discussion Do you like mythweb for the nice EPG gui or does it offer something that tvheadend doesn't do regarding series recording? I haven't tried Mythtv, so I don't know anything about it. Well.. I tried to get it running, but it wouldn't see my DVB Adapters and I gave up in the end. Anyways... Series recordings is as easy as this in tvheadend: 1. Search for the show in the webgui. 2. Push info button. 3. Push Autorec. 4. Done Tvhclient is a nice client for scheduling recordings for handheld devices if that's what is needed. I guess I could have tried to get Mythtv running in a container, but I have other stuff on my priority list, so probably someone is going to beat me to it. Hints @ something sparkly I like pretty. TBH...I could never understand the attraction to TVH. I really believe that it is such a PITA for that average Windows user to setup that Linux guys fell in love with it. But I have always found it to be flaky...not to mention that it was quite a dead project for a while. saarg...would the same Schedules Direct issue exist with Myth that does for TVH? Paging all sparkly's... John https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:MythTV_structure#Video_sources Quote Link to comment
JM2005 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I thought I would chime in here as I use a mythbuntu vm on my unraid server now. As far as Schedules Direct goes its built into the drop down menu they give you to pick for epg guide data,at least it was for me when I setup it. I have HdHomeruns on my system working great. I tried to get sarge's tvheadend docker to work with schedules direct to check out what tvheadend was about but couldn't get it working with that webgrab plus. Quote Link to comment
mikedpitt420 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I've been messing around with this idea as I also use schedulesdirect. Do you find it's very resource intensive to run it in an mythbuntu VM? I really wish there was an unraid docker for mythtv as it's what I use already and I love it. I've seen this: https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/jdef/mythtv/ although I don't know if could be forked or adapted. Quote Link to comment
dmacias Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I've been messing around with this idea as I also use schedulesdirect. Do you find it's very resource intensive to run it in an mythbuntu VM? I really wish there was an unraid docker for mythtv as it's what I use already and I love it. I've seen this: https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/jdef/mythtv/ although I don't know if could be forked or adapted. Mythtv backend is very resource friendly. I run it with 2 cores and 2GB but it uses less than half that each. I just have it setup for worst case scenario and I have extra cores and ram. Unless you need real time commercial skip for recording (I have it set to after recording its finished) and transcoding. I found Mythbuntu the easiest to setup and it supported my hd homerun prime cable card tuners. I can reinstall from scratch in less than an hour. Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 i'm having a stab at this, don't quote me on that, lol. it may come to nothing, also it should be noted that i have no way to test this other than any connection to a kodi instance. got bored and this looked like an interesting project. Quote Link to comment
JM2005 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 i'm having a stab at this, don't quote me on that, lol. it may come to nothing, also it should be noted that i have no way to test this other than any connection to a kodi instance. got bored and this looked like an interesting project. Be glad to help test. Just let me know. Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 it's built, gotta to do list though, lol. initialise the database (inboard to the docker, less connection issues, and the docker is big already, a little bigger doesn't hurt) sort out permissions issue with mythtv-backend app itself trying to run as root in rdp environment where the user is ubuntu if and when i've done that, how to start the damn app itself and have it so it can be stopped to run the setup prog and restart afterwards. Quote Link to comment
johnodon Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 a little bigger doesn't hurt I was going to tell you to check with my wife on this one but I'm Irish and not fooling anyone! Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 a little bigger doesn't hurt I was going to tell you to check with my wife on this one but I'm Irish and not fooling anyone! i'll ask her in the morning Quote Link to comment
CHBMB Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 a little bigger doesn't hurt You haven't seen my wife's bottom.... Quote Link to comment
johnodon Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 a little bigger doesn't hurt You haven't seen my wife's bottom.... You may want to delete this before she looks over you shoulder (assuming you mean it the way I think you mean it)! BTW...I'm super pumped about this! I really hope sparkly can get it going. John Quote Link to comment
CHBMB Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 a little bigger doesn't hurt You haven't seen my wife's bottom.... BTW...I'm super pumped about this! I really hope sparkly can get it going. I hope you're not talking about Mrs CHBMB! To be honest since we got married getting it going is a bit like jump starting an old motor.. Quote Link to comment
sparklyballs Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 a little bigger doesn't hurt You haven't seen my wife's bottom.... BTW...I'm super pumped about this! I really hope sparkly can get it going. I hope you're not talking about Mrs CHBMB! To be honest since we got married getting it going is a bit like jump starting an old motor.. I'm not making a docker for that. Quote Link to comment
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