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unRAID 6 NerdPack - CLI tools (iftop, iotop, screen, kbd, etc.)

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EDIT: Nerdtools is now available as a replacement, you might want to check that first:

Some tools like iperf3 and perl are now included in the base unraid release, hence them not being present in there.

If it doesn't have what you need request it in the thread, and in the meantime the manual install below is still available in the original text below:

 

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Nerdpack is deprecated in 6.11.

 

For the record, since it was unfortunately only posted in a thread in the German section instead of here where people would typically come for support (translated):

 

On 8/10/2022 at 4:26 PM, ich777 said:

This thread is intended to draw attention to the fact that with the release of unRAID 6.11, the Nerd Pack will no longer be available in the CA App and will be uninstalled the first time you start 6.11 .

The reason for this is that it is simply no longer compatible with 6.11 and many packages from it are no longer compatible or up-to-date. 

 

To replicate the functionality (unsupported):

  • Go to https://slackware.pkgs.org/15.0/slackware-x86_64/ which lists packages for Slackware 15 Unraid is based on
  • Search for the packages you want
  • Download the txz files for them, and put them on the flash drive in /extra (/boot/extra on a running system), that will cause them to auto-install on boot (create the folder if there isn't one)
  • To be able to use them without a reboot use unraid CLI to navigate where you put the packages and run installpkg <filename>

 

Packages might have dependencies, that would typically be pointed out by an error when trying to run the programs they contain, if so download and install those as well. The site also has a section listing dependencies that might help, although I wouldn't just install them by default since some are already built into unraid so try to run first.

 

EDIT: Other package sources:

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  • Reason why it's not marked as being incompatible and it hasn't been said point blank that it's going to disappear is because the deadline for this to happen is when 6.11 stable is released.  

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15 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Nerdpack is deprecated in 6.11.

 

For the record, since it was unfortunately only posted in a thread in the German section instead of here where people would typically come for support (translated):

 

 

 

so is there any metod to get perl?

See edited post above, as well as the previous discussion page or 2 where some of these things were covered already. The system temp plugin will likely get an update to integrate/not need perl, but 6.11 is currently in RC so not everything's ready for prime time yet.

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29 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

See edited post above, as well as the previous discussion page or 2 where some of these things were covered already. The system temp plugin will likely get an update to integrate/not need perl, but 6.11 is currently in RC so not everything's ready for prime time yet.

so for system temp, still need to wait some time ?

Probably, or use the manual install above.

2 hours ago, culilaren said:

so is there any metod to get perl?

Perl will be included in the next release from the RC series.

2 hours ago, culilaren said:

so for system temp, still need to wait some time ?

There is some missinformation out there about Systemp.

Perl is only needed for the first installation and clicking the button Detect, after you set everything up you don‘t even need Perl and can uninstall it.

3 hours ago, Kilrah said:

For the record, since it was unfortunately only posted in a thread in the German section instead of here where people would typically come for support (translated):

Reason why it's not marked as being incompatible and it hasn't been said point blank that it's going to disappear is because the deadline for this to happen is when 6.11 stable is released.

 

App policies dictate in a situation like this to wait for stable to be released as there is no evidence that the plugin will not get updated.   Since I don't believe that it will actually get updated I initiated a conversation with limetech including @ich777 and a solution was formed to handle this eventuality mainly with regards to the trickle down effect it would cause for other popular plugins, notably System Temp.

 

My official announcement stating that this plugin is no longer available going forward will not come until stable is released and our assumption as to the status of the plugin is proven correct.

I have a backup script that is dependent on ipmitool from the nerd pack.  Is there likely to be a solution for that or do I need to install it manually?

20 hours ago, Hoopster said:

I have a backup script that is dependent on ipmitool from the nerd pack.  Is there likely to be a solution for that or do I need to install it manually?

You'll need to install it mnually.

Just now, dlandon said:

You'll need to install it mnually.

Thanks. That's what I assumed and have already done this in anticipation of 6.11.0 release.

Does someone know where to get a Slackware package for rmlint : it's a great CLI tool to get a list of duplicates - and remove them.
It's one of the 3 programs I was using through NerdPack - along with iperf3 and iotop.

So this isn't working for me. I'm trying to use screen or tmux so that I don't have to migrate my data while keeping the terminal open. I downloaded Krusader and it's horrible, keeps failing telling me it can't write after about 100 gigs. All going to the same share. 

What isn't working?  You can't get the screen or tmux packages to install?

4 minutes ago, dlandon said:

What isn't working?  You can't get the screen or tmux packages to install?

I have nerdpack installed. Not seeing an additional option to install screen, I thought everything was included in the plugin. 

If Nerd Pack doesn't have screen, use tmux.  Nerd Pack doesn't include "everything".

1 minute ago, dlandon said:

If Nerd Pack doesn't have screen, use tmux.  Nerd Pack doesn't include "everything".

You can ignore my noobness into Unraid and the settings. I found that I have to go to settings then nerdpack and can install the packages I need. I looked under plugins and clicked nerdpack and didn't see anything, so that was my bad. 

As of today, since 6.11.0 stable is imminent, and I don't believe that this plugin will get updated, I have marked this plugin as being incompatible with > 6.10.3

 

If you require any packages which you may have been installing via this, you will need to do your own package management.

 

Note that Perl is now included in the base OS once 6.11.0 is released.

7 hours ago, Squid said:

As of today, since 6.11.0 stable is imminent, and I don't believe that this plugin will get updated, I have marked this plugin as being incompatible with > 6.10.3

 

If you require any packages which you may have been installing via this, you will need to do your own package management.

 

Note that Perl is now included in the base OS once 6.11.0 is released.

Will plugins that need manual package resolution be marked as incompatible ?

6 hours ago, tjb_altf4 said:

Will plugins that need manual package resolution be marked as incompatible ?

What other(s) am I missing?  VM WOL, Network Stats.  Anything that needs Perl isn't an issue as it's included in the OS

On 8/15/2022 at 3:29 AM, Kilrah said:

Download the txz files for them, and put them on the flash drive in /extra (/boot/extra on a running system), that will cause them to auto-install on boot (create the folder if there isn't one)

 

Dumb question, but is there an alternate method of this to install these on a -running- system? Seems very short-sighted that the only documented method requires a full system reboot to install packages. I also hope that a proper package manager is on the short list of features to be added to Unraid since we're getting pushed in this direction.

8 minutes ago, cr08 said:

but is there an alternate method of this to install these on a -running- system?

From a post earlier in this thread:

 

To be able to use them without a reboot use unraid CLI to navigate where you put the packages and run installpkg <filename>

 

On my server running the 6.11.0 rc3, I have done this with a few of the packages previously loaded via Nerd pack.  No reboot required.

2 hours ago, cr08 said:

Dumb question, but is there an alternate method of this to install these on a -running- system? Seems very short-sighted that the only documented method requires a full system reboot to install packages

It's literally the next bullet point below what you quoted :)

On 8/15/2022 at 3:29 AM, Kilrah said:

To be able to use them without a reboot use unraid CLI to navigate where you put the packages and run installpkg <filename>

One last thing to note. Where you put the packages MUST be in /boot/extra or they won't be reinstalled on boot.

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