fersal Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So I installed the Plex plugin (I think) but now I can't see it on the Plugins page, what did I do wrong? This is how I went about it: 1) I went to the "Install Plugin" tab on the Plugins page 2) I pasted the Plex for Unraid 64-bit link into the textbox and pressed Install: https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/0.9.11.16.958-80f1748/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz 3) After a couple of minutes I got a popup window with the following: /usr/local/sbin/plugin install https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/0.9.11.16.958-80f1748/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz 2>&1 plugin: installing: https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/0.9.11.16.958-80f1748/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz plugin: downloading https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/0.9.11.16.958-80f1748/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz Warning: simplexml_load_file(): /tmp/plugins/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found in /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/dynamix.plugin.manager/scripts/plugin on line 171 Warning: simplexml_load_file(): 7zXZ in /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/dynamix.plugin.manager/scripts/plugin on line 171 Warning: simplexml_load_file(): ^ in /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/dynamix.plugin.manager/scripts/plugin on line 171 plugin: xml parse error Then I expected to see the Plex plugin on the screen, but not there! What did I do wrong? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Squid Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So I installed the Plex plugin (I think) but now I can't see it on the Plugins page, what did I do wrong? This is how I went about it: 1) I went to the "Install Plugin" tab on the Plugins page 2) I pasted the Plex for Unraid 64-bit link into the textbox and pressed Install: https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/0.9.11.16.958-80f1748/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz 3) After a couple of minutes I got a popup window with the following: /usr/local/sbin/plugin install https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/0.9.11.16.958-80f1748/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz 2>&1 plugin: installing: https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/0.9.11.16.958-80f1748/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz plugin: downloading https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server/0.9.11.16.958-80f1748/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz Warning: simplexml_load_file(): /tmp/plugins/PlexMediaServer-0.9.11.16.958-80f1748-x64-UnRAID.txz:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found in /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/dynamix.plugin.manager/scripts/plugin on line 171 Warning: simplexml_load_file(): 7zXZ in /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/dynamix.plugin.manager/scripts/plugin on line 171 Warning: simplexml_load_file(): ^ in /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/dynamix.plugin.manager/scripts/plugin on line 171 plugin: xml parse error Then I expected to see the Plex plugin on the screen, but not there! What did I do wrong? Thanks! You're actually trying to install a slackware PACKAGE. What you want to do is either install the docker version http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=37732.0or Phaze's plugin http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=33341.0 Quote Link to comment
fersal Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thanks, Squid. So nothing got installed anywhere? Since I got only warnings, I thought something had been installed but I don't see it in Pkg Manager... should I look elsewhere for something to remove before installing the plugin? Quote Link to comment
HellDiverUK Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So I installed the Plex plugin (I think) but now I can't see it on the Plugins page, what did I do wrong? That's where you went wrong. You should be installing one of the Plex Docker images. Plugins are pretty much just for OS related stuff now, not really for "apps". Quote Link to comment
fersal Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 I did read recommendations about going with the the docker version, but since I'm a newbie I thought I'd walk before I run and upgrade to docker later. If I hear that I should "bite the bullet" and go with docker from the start, I will. In any case, the Phaze version did install but I had warnings: WARNING: Your config directory is not persistent and WILL NOT survive a reboot. Please locate the directory on disk for persistency WARNING: Your transcode directory is located in RAM. This will bloat your server's RAM usage and could cause instability problems. It is recommended to move this folder to a physical hard drive. Plugin Version: 2015.02.21.1 I guess that must mean setting these to a cache drive? I don't have one yet... I guess that means that I have to get one? Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I did read recommendations about going with the the docker version, but since I'm a newbie I thought I'd walk before I run. In any case, the Phaze version did install but I had warnings: WARNING: Your config directory is not persistent and WILL NOT survive a reboot. Please locate the directory on disk for persistency WARNING: Your transcode directory is located in RAM. This will bloat your server's RAM usage and could cause instability problems. It is recommended to move this folder to a physical hard drive. Plugin Version: 2015.02.21.1 I guess that must mean setting these to a cache drive? I don't have one yet... I guess that means that I have to get one? You can use an array drive but Plex will keep it spinning and writing parity. Since you are using PhAzE suggest you read his support thread and post further questions there. Quote Link to comment
HellDiverUK Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 you should really use a cache drive, even if only for Plex. Plex performance will suck if running it's library files off the array. You don't NEED a SSD - even a decent 7200rpm drive for cache will be better. I've used an old 1TB WD RE4 before, and it worked great. Quote Link to comment
gundamguy Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So I installed the Plex plugin (I think) but now I can't see it on the Plugins page, what did I do wrong? That's where you went wrong. You should be installing one of the Plex Docker images. Plugins are pretty much just for OS related stuff now, not really for "apps". That's not really true. App plug-ins are still prefectly acceptable and is more of a preference thing. Recomended Plugin for Plex or Recomended Docker for Plex Also have you consered Emby (Formerly Media Browser 3)? Emby has some features that Plex doesn't but also doesn't have the app enviroment that Plex has yet. Pro's and Con's, but the big pro IMO is that the developers actually care what people say, and provide feedback. Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So I installed the Plex plugin (I think) but now I can't see it on the Plugins page, what did I do wrong? That's where you went wrong. You should be installing one of the Plex Docker images. Plugins are pretty much just for OS related stuff now, not really for "apps". That's not really true. App plug-ins are still prefectly acceptable and is more of a preference thing. Recomended Plugin for Plex or Recomended Docker for Plex Also have you consered Emby (Formerly Media Browser 3)? Emby has some features that Plex doesn't but also doesn't have the app enviroment that Plex has yet. Pro's and Con's, but the big pro IMO is that the developers actually care what people say, and provide feedback. The thing is, plugins are OS related things whether they are intended to be or not. That can have some unintended consequences. So on balance, I think the preference should be towards dockers unless you intend to affect the unRAID OS. Quote Link to comment
jonp Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So I installed the Plex plugin (I think) but now I can't see it on the Plugins page, what did I do wrong? That's where you went wrong. You should be installing one of the Plex Docker images. Plugins are pretty much just for OS related stuff now, not really for "apps". That's not really true. App plug-ins are still prefectly acceptable and is more of a preference thing. Recomended Plugin for Plex or Recomended Docker for Plex Also have you consered Emby (Formerly Media Browser 3)? Emby has some features that Plex doesn't but also doesn't have the app enviroment that Plex has yet. Pro's and Con's, but the big pro IMO is that the developers actually care what people say, and provide feedback. The thing is, plugins are OS related things whether they are intended to be or not. That can have some unintended consequences. So on balance, I think the preference should be towards dockers unless you intend to affect the unRAID OS. Truth. Plugins are not bad for enhancing the webgui / core functionality but if a 3rd party software package is needed, docker is a better solution. Quote Link to comment
gundamguy Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The thing is, plugins are OS related things whether they are intended to be or not. That can have some unintended consequences. So on balance, I think the preference should be towards dockers unless you intend to affect the unRAID OS. I agree there are some real benifits to using docker. I just don't want users to think that they have to use docker and that plugins are not an acceptable option. Plugins are not a prefect solution, but often they will work and do what users need. Quote Link to comment
Squid Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So I installed the Plex plugin (I think) but now I can't see it on the Plugins page, what did I do wrong? That's where you went wrong. You should be installing one of the Plex Docker images. Plugins are pretty much just for OS related stuff now, not really for "apps". That's not really true. App plug-ins are still prefectly acceptable and is more of a preference thing. Recomended Plugin for Plex or Recomended Docker for Plex Also have you consered Emby (Formerly Media Browser 3)? Emby has some features that Plex doesn't but also doesn't have the app enviroment that Plex has yet. Pro's and Con's, but the big pro IMO is that the developers actually care what people say, and provide feedback. The thing is, plugins are OS related things whether they are intended to be or not. That can have some unintended consequences. So on balance, I think the preference should be towards dockers unless you intend to affect the unRAID OS. The way that I look at it is that because plugins run directly on unRaid, whenever changes happen to unRaid, those changes directly affect the running of plugins. How many times when the version number of unRaid (eg: 6b10 to b11 to b12, 13, 14, 15, etc) has changed has this necessitated a change to the plugin? Docker does not have this problem. A docker container which worked on 6b6 is still going to work on 6b15, and still going to work on 6.0 Final, and 7b1 in the exact same manner as before. Currently for applications such as Plex, CP, Sab, etc it still is a personal preference as to whether you run the plugin version or the docker version. However, as time goes on plugins of this type are going to dwindle because of the potential of plugin A messing up how plugin B works, plugin A doesn't like unRaid X, etc. Docker avoids all of those problems because it effectively hides each app from each other and from the underlying OS (unRaid) while maintaining equivalent performance (albeit with slightly higher memory / disk usage) Things aren't perfect yet with the setup of docker however. Just as with plugins, you have to consider which ports to use, and additionally you now also have to set and choose which folders on your array to give them access to. It's this last point which I feel is what is the hangup on switching over to docker. Everything else is identical in terms of setup. Quote Link to comment
HellDiverUK Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The thing is, plugins are OS related things whether they are intended to be or not. That can have some unintended consequences. So on balance, I think the preference should be towards dockers unless you intend to affect the unRAID OS. I agree there are some real benifits to using docker. I just don't want users to think that they have to use docker and that plugins are not an acceptable option. Plugins are not a prefect solution, but often they will work and do what users need. The lead developer says Docker is the thing to use. Why are you continuing to argue?!? Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 And if you do have an issue with the unRAID OS, the first advice is usually to remove plugins or boot in SAFE mode. Quote Link to comment
ijuarez Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I like phaze plug in for plex it works and it updated on time I'm trying emby and while it does have some neat features it lacks in others where plex excels Quote Link to comment
gundamguy Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I like phaze plug in for plex it works and it updated on time I'm trying emby and while it does have some neat features it lacks in others where plex excels Agreed on emby. It's moving in the right direction but isn't quite there yet for some platforms. Quote Link to comment
Glimmerman911 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Is the Plex Docker here the 64-bit version? http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=33822.0 Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Is the Plex Docker here the 64-bit version? http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=33822.0 YES Quote Link to comment
Glimmerman911 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Is the Plex Docker here the 64-bit version? http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=33822.0 YES I see it updates itself when you stop and start the docker. Any guides on how to install the needo Plex docker? I have never installed a docker, very lost. Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Is the Plex Docker here the 64-bit version? http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=33822.0 YES I see it updates itself when you stop and start the docker. Any guides on how to install the needo Plex docker? I have never installed a docker, very lost. This one is a few months old but maybe it still works well enough: noobie docker setup guide Here is the official documentation in the wiki: Using Docker If you have problems they can probably be cleared up by posting a screenshot of the docker's page. Usually the hardest thing for most people starting out is understanding volume mappings. Quote Link to comment
Glimmerman911 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Great guide, couple of minor screen changes since then but very usable. Quote Link to comment
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