February 5, 201115 yr It adds it to the list of PC's you can backup to. Does that make sense and did that answer your question? Looks like alot of people here backup their various PC's to the Unraid server and then backup the Unraid server to the "cloud" Hope that helps. Yes, I wanted to use my unRAID box as a backup location but it seems the crashplan program can't use network drives or paths.
February 6, 201115 yr It's designed to backup across networks to other computers set up on your crashplan account. I think you need to add the systems one by one as "friend" machines to enable the backup between systems.
February 6, 201115 yr I tried to get this working on a new server I built at work. It is running on 5.0b3. I setup CrashPlan just like I did at home (that is running 4.7). When I ran the gui it connected to the engine and it asked for either a new account or log in to an existing one. Either way, it would just sit there and spin, never moving any further. Anyone know what caused this? Its like it couldn't connect to their server. I didn't have anymore time to mess with it before leaving. I remember something like that happening when I first installed. I think it's just a glitch in the registration system or something. I believe it worked after about 24 hours or so for me.
February 6, 201115 yr I tried to get this working on a new server I built at work. It is running on 5.0b3. I setup CrashPlan just like I did at home (that is running 4.7). When I ran the gui it connected to the engine and it asked for either a new account or log in to an existing one. Either way, it would just sit there and spin, never moving any further. Anyone know what caused this? Its like it couldn't connect to their server. I didn't have anymore time to mess with it before leaving. I remember something like that happening when I first installed. I think it's just a glitch in the registration system or something. I believe it worked after about 24 hours or so for me. Thanks for the reply. Ran out of time and patience so I will be able to pick it back up tomorrow. It was just weird since I didn't have that problem with my home setup.
February 6, 201115 yr So to use my unRAID box as a backup device I have to install it physically on my unRAID box? When I am browsing through my destinations area on my Crashplan on my PC I don't see the unRAID system there.
February 7, 201115 yr I tried to get this working on a new server I built at work. It is running on 5.0b3. I setup CrashPlan just like I did at home (that is running 4.7). When I ran the gui it connected to the engine and it asked for either a new account or log in to an existing one. Either way, it would just sit there and spin, never moving any further. Anyone know what caused this? Its like it couldn't connect to their server. I didn't have anymore time to mess with it before leaving. I remember something like that happening when I first installed. I think it's just a glitch in the registration system or something. I believe it worked after about 24 hours or so for me. Thanks for the reply. Ran out of time and patience so I will be able to pick it back up tomorrow. It was just weird since I didn't have that problem with my home setup. Still having the same problem. Does anyone know what port the engine uses to communicate to home base to verify account status/settings. I'm wondering if we have that port closed. Hard to believe since I thought this used standard http ports. If anyone can help that would be great, otherwise maybe I should take this over to the CrashPlan forum. Thanks.
February 7, 201115 yr According to this, TCP port 4242 is what Crashplan uses. Thanks for the reply. I will have to play around with it. Its weird though cause my laptop on my work's network has no problem backing up to my home unraid server via CrashPlan.
February 8, 201115 yr According to this, TCP port 4242 is what Crashplan uses. Thanks for the reply. I will have to play around with it. Its weird though cause my laptop on my work's network has no problem backing up to my home unraid server via CrashPlan. It also uses good old port 443 (https). 4242 is for the actual transfer of data (I believe) whereas the heartbeat to crashplan is on 443.
February 8, 201115 yr If he's running it from work it wouldn't be unusual that https traffic could be being monkeyed with in some fashion. Proxied with filtering or unwrapped / rewrapped for corporate network monitoring.
February 8, 201115 yr I think I'm good on the 4242, but like I said, I can't even connect to crashplan servers. I didn't think we would be blocking 443, but I don't know what else it could be. We are a pretty small company that doesn't have much IS support. I probably know more that our IS guy. Is there any way I can see from my side what is going on?
February 8, 201115 yr Telnet to port 443 on central.crashplan.com and see if you can connect. telnet central.crashplan.com 443 Trying 173.225.132.30... Connected to central.crashplan.com. Escape character is '^]'. I have no idea if this is what's actually used to log you in to crashplan / heartbeat you. But I (currently) don't have a crashplan storage account and I'm constantly connected to that hostname and port so I imagine it's what lets crashplan know my machine is up and available. p.s as above 443 need not be blocked outright but could just be filtered or proxied to only allowed white listed sites. Plenty of off the shelve 'in-line' bits of kit to do that sort of thing that can be unobtrusively dropped into your network path somewhere - ask your tech guy!
February 8, 201115 yr I think it connected... telnet central.crashplan.com 443 Trying 173.225.132.37... Connected to central.crashplan.com (173.225.132.37). Escape character is '^]'. çIãðCw¸èR èÆâGÕüô£ÑLÒ÷§¡DýÉq hòhurity.DHPublicKeyMessageYÔã0à0
February 8, 201115 yr Well, that doesn't help Could it be something I am doing during install? (I have tried to install it 3 or 4 times, always using the default values)
February 8, 201115 yr I find lots of these in one of my logs when I'm trying to connect to the engine and its trying to log me in ... [02.08.11 13:34:06.622 WARNING W1269167_Authorizer .backup42.service.peer.Authorizer.doWork] AUTH: Another auth is already in progress. The fact that this laptop is already connected to my home unraid server via crashplan while I'm at work wouldn't have anything to do with this, would it? I'm really drawing for straws, but I think I need to check port 4242 to make sure. How do I check if port 4242 is working correctly?
February 8, 201115 yr Based upon this link http://support.crashplan.com/doku.php/how_to/configure_a_headless_client): When I run netstat -na | grep LISTEN | grep 42 I get: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:4242 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:4243 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN I don't think that is corrent. It appears that the server is not listening at all on port 4242. The problem is I don't know what to tell my "IS" guy to do. Just forward port 4242 to the server IP address?
February 8, 201115 yr Based upon this link http://support.crashplan.com/doku.php/how_to/configure_a_headless_client): When I run netstat -na | grep LISTEN | grep 42 I get: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:4242 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:4243 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN I don't think that is corrent. It appears that the server is not listening at all on port 4242. The problem is I don't know what to tell my "IS" guy to do. Just forward port 4242 to the server IP address? 0.0.0.0:4242 It is, that's shorthand for all interfaces on 4242. You could run the same command again with -nap to list the program / pid binding that port to confirm it's crashplan (java). If your problem is data transfer (and not general auth / logging into crashplans website as I have the impression) inbound to your work machine then yes you will need to portforward 4242. Assuming you're nat'd of course.
February 8, 201115 yr netstat -nap | grep LISTEN | grep 42 tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:4242 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1704/java tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:4243 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1704/java tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:59828 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1242/rpc.statd This is just trying to connect to the engine. I can't even do that. I mean it appears to connect, hence the 'new account' or 'login' prompt, but then it never gets past that. I thought the all inclusive shorthand would have been: *.4242 not 0.0.0.0:4242 but I really don't know. Thaks for trying to help.
February 8, 201115 yr easy to test, telnet to your machine from somewhere else on the same network. telnet yourmachine 4242 See if the socket connects. When you get the login prompt what exactly happens? You don't..technically..login to your server. Your login to the crashplan website..via your server..I think. So at that point (login prompt in the client) you still need connectivity through to crashplan.
February 8, 201115 yr If I have a telnet session open with the server and I type: telnet localhost 4242 I get the control characters. If I telnet from laptop to unraid using windows telnet I get a bunch of control characters. After I connect via a ssh tunnel. I then run the gui (on Windows with the service port changed) and when it connects to the engine (on unRAID) it asks to either create a new account or login to an existing account. Regardless on what I do at this step, when I hit the ok button, it just sits there on the splash screen with a logo spinning and never gets to the settings (main) screen.
February 10, 201115 yr I finally got it working. Can't really say why either. Trying many different things and it happen to connect after I did one of many re-installs. Now I have no problems connecting and my laptop (which is now home) is currently backing up to my new backup unraid server at work. $150 for an automatic backup server is great. Better than buying a nas. Thanks everyone for their help.
February 10, 201115 yr Now that my laptop is back at work, it still appears that its backing up over the 'wan', at least based upon the speed. It is still going around 500 kbps which is what I have the wan set for. The lan has no limit. I have tried pausing and restarting a couple of times but that hasn't seem to help. Crashplan shows the public IP address to be the same for both machines and I'm physically sitting on the same network. One's wired and the other's wireless but that shouldn't make a difference. Any suggestions or ways to force it to go through the 'lan'? Thanks again.
February 10, 201115 yr Not sure what you mean. If your laptop has one connection onto your network and you're using WAN / LAN in the crashplan sense then just remove restrictions on the WAN connectivity? If it's going locally on your network anyway it shouldn't matter? I don't know how crashplan decides if traffic is (in the non crashplan sense) on the lan or wan. I suspect by looking at the subnets of the machine it's running on and what network the target machine is on. Difficult to answer without knowing your network config I guess.
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