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Newbie - Im def losing the Plot with UnRAID now...lol HELP!

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Hi, Cant work out whats wrong at all with unRAID had setep issues originally trying to get server to link with my vista pc and then after install of new cable modem it appeared to work and ive transferred 3tb of movies. This morning i closed down server to add new drive to allow me top copy more movies onto and now it wont connect again giving me the same error message as before.

 

In vista i can see Tower as part of network but when i double click on it i get following error

 

Windows can not access \\TOWER

 

check the spelling of name otherwise you have a network error.

 

Error code is 0x80070035

 

This is now driving me round the bend my network picks up other pc in house(windows based) my sons 360 but although it sees TOWER it cant connect and ive done nothing but close it down and reboot.

 

Ive toyed with installing linux instead on pc incase its a windows network issue but dont know whether that would help or not or installing a good network card rather than using onboard but cant see how it would see it fine and connect for a couple of days and now wont.

 

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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Some further info as i still cant get it working ive installed an ubuntu partition on my pc to see if the issue is a problem with windows itself. Now ive got the latest problem of having no idea how to access the front end via ubuntu as the http://tower doesnt seem to work.

 

This is probably due to my lack of linux knowledge any help would be appreciated.

 

cheers

Windows relies on a "master browser" to identify shared resources on a LAN.

 

For each subnet, for all of the machines in the same workgroup, one machine is chosen to be the "mater browser" to track shared folders and translate their names to locations.

 

On the unRAID server, you can execute a command to identify which machine is the master browser.  Typically, it is the newest version windows OS, but that is all negotiated between the machines on the LAN running required service.

 

To see which machine is your master browser, type at the linux prompt (the last 5 characters typed are "space dash dash space dash"):

nmblookup -M -- -

querying __MSBROWSE__ on 192.168.2.255

192.168.2.4 __MSBROWSE__<01>

 

The output shows 192.168.2.4 as my master browser.

 

To identify which machine that is, I can then type:

nmblookup -SA 192.168.2.4

Looking up status of 192.168.2.4

        DELLCPX         <00> -         B <ACTIVE>

        DELLCPX         <20> -         B <ACTIVE>

        JOEGROUP     <00> - <GROUP> B <ACTIVE>

        JOEGROUP     <1e> - <GROUP> B <ACTIVE>

        JOEGROUP     <1d> -         B <ACTIVE>

        ..__MSBROWSE__. <01> - <GROUP> B <ACTIVE>

 

        MAC Address = 00-50-04-B4-D7-DD

 

Now I can see that my wife's old laptop (dellcpx) is the master browser.   All the other machines rely on it to determine what is in their network neighborhood.

 

Can you guess what happens if the dellcpx laptop is shut off?   Yup... network share access is broken until the remaining machines on the LAN negotiate which will assume the role of the master browser.  (I have no idea how often that process occurs)  Fortunately, the dellcpx laptop is almost never turned off. (My wife uses it for e-mail and general browsing of the web)

 

Interestingly, the newest OS on my LAN is a laptop running Vista.   The "dellcpx" PC is running a much older Win2000.  So much for the theory that the newest version of a window's OS usually ends up as the master browser on a LAN>

 

If I want to see what the unRAID server is sharing, I can type  (pressing enter at the password prompt, as I have no "root" password for the SMB login on the unRAID server):

smbclient -L localhost

Enter root's password:

Domain=[TOWER] OS=[unix] Server=[samba 3.3.3]

 

        Sharename       Type      Comment

        ---------       ----      -------

        IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (Media server)

        TV              Disk

        Pictures        Disk

        Mp3             Disk

        Movies_New      Disk

        Movies-Xmas     Disk

        Movies T-Z      Disk

        Movies P-S      Disk

        Movies K-O      Disk

        Movies F-J      Disk

        Movies A-E      Disk

        Movies          Disk

        Tower           Disk

Domain=[TOWER] OS=[unix] Server=[samba 3.3.3]

 

        Server               Comment

        ---------            -------

 

        Workgroup            Master

        ---------            -------

        JOEGROUP         DELLCPX

 

It too shows the DELLCPX laptop as the master browser.   (I'm not sure of the IPC$ service... I need to look into if that needs to be enabled on the unRAID server)

 

To see what is happening on the dellcpx laptop I can type (again pressing enter at the password prompt):

smbclient -L dellcpx

Enter root's password:

Anonymous login successful

Domain=[JOEGROUP] OS=[Windows 5.0] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

 

        Sharename       Type      Comment

        ---------       ----      -------

        IPC$            IPC       Remote IPC

        MEDIA           Disk

        downloads       Disk

        mp3             Disk

        temp            Disk

        ADMIN$          Disk      Remote Admin

        C$              Disk      Default share

        Shared Folder   Disk

Anonymous login successful

Domain=[JOEGROUP] OS=[Windows 5.0] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

 

        Server               Comment

        ---------            -------

        DELL630              dell630

        DELLCPX

        HTPC

        JOELP3

        TOWER                Media server

 

        Workgroup            Master

        ---------            -------

        JOEGROUP         DELLCPX

I can see all the other PCs on my LAN that dellcpx is aware of, including "TOWER"

 

Checking out the Vista laptop I can see it does not allow anonymous browsing of its shares folders.

smbclient -L dell630

Enter root's password:

Anonymous login successful

Domain=[JOEGROUP] OS=[Windows Vista Business 6001 Service Pack 1] Server=[Windows Vista Business 6.0]

 

        Sharename       Type      Comment

        ---------       ----      -------

Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED

Anonymous login successful

Domain=[JOEGROUP] OS=[Windows Vista Business 6001 Service Pack 1] Server=[Windows Vista Business 6.0]

 

        Server               Comment

        ---------            -------

 

        Workgroup            Master

        ---------            -------

 

Guess what happens if a neighbor uses your wireless connection with their laptop, or a family member turns on their PC, takes over as master browser, since they is also configured to be a master browser, then disconnects... You got it, no more network neighborhood of shares until a new master browser negotiation occurs.

 

Lots more details of how this works at this excerpt from

http://books.google.com/books?id=3w4sjblXbjwC&pg=PA356&lpg=PA356&dq=linux+identify+samba++master+browser&source=bl&ots=F8QIVdLoiP&sig=-B3V38FRu2NCavqu7vz6jfXlLHM&hl=en&ei=tLNtSvebNpKcswOH4vzKDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5

 

You can also do a google search for "windows master browser"

 

Only 1 machine on a LAN should be configured as the master browser.  The service on the others could all be disabled if more than one is active.  The problem you are having could easily be caused by a machine other than Tower, or your Vista PC.  It could easily happen if the workgroup name on a PC elsewhere on the LAN is different and it is attempting to be the master-browser for that alternate workgroup.

 

As far as getting to the unRAID server's main page  from your internet browser, log in on the unRAID console and type

ifconfig eth0

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:11:75:fb:7e

          inet addr:192.168.2.100  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0

          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1

          RX packets:28627198 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0

          TX packets:86118000 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0

          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000

          RX bytes:1429550600 (1.3 GiB)  TX bytes:1684515297 (1.5 GiB)

 

If you can't use your browser to get to http://tower, it might be because your router does not know it (or how to get to it)

Try

http://192.168.2.100

(using your IP address, not mine that I used in the sample)

 

If you show no IP address, you have a different issue on your unRAID server. Post a syslog for analysis.  Instructions under troubleshooting in the wiki.

 

Joe L.

 

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Thanks very much for your detailed reply Joe (really appreciated)  i went through step by step what you said.

 

At nmblookup -SA 192.168.1.8  i get the following

 

DAVID-PC              <00> -                B <ACTIVE>

WORKGROUP        <00> - <GROUP>  B <ACTIVE>

WORKGROUP        <1e> - <GROUP>  B <ACTIVE>

DAVID-PC              <20> -                B <ACTIVE>

WORKGROUP        <1d> -                B <ACTIVE>

..__MSBROWSE__.  <01> - <GROUP> B <ACTIVE>

 

I have nothing else currently connected to network whilst i have been trying to get the Server setup so i dont know whether i should have all the above entries that i have.

 

It also looks like my windows PC is my master.

 

 

It all goes wrong when i try

 

smbclient -L localhost  to see what Unraid is sharing i get the following message

 

Connection to localhost failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)

 

 

When i try smbclient -L DAVID-PC i get a load of info but the TOWER isnt listed.

 

As for the Config page i can connect to it without a problem http://TOWER

and appear to be able to do everything i need to do .

 

 

And when i view network via windows vista pc TOWER is listed but cant access it.

 

This all worked fine a couple of days ago and as far as i can see ive not made any changes.

 

Cheers again Joe and i hope this gives you an idea of whats wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what happens when you type:

ping -c 5 localhost

at the command line on the unRAID server?

 

It almost looks like you do not have the localhost alias defined.

Do you have a "nameserver" defined in your unRAID config?  (normally it will be the IP address of your router)

 

Since you have basic networking issues, don't complicate your life with SMB shares too.

 

What do you get when you type this:

ifconfig

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Hi mate,

 

When i enter ping -c 5 localhost  i get

 

ping tower (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data

 

5 packets transmitted, 5 recieved, 0% loss, time 3997ms

rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.005/0.008/0.017/0.004 ms

 

when i enter ifconfig

 

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1f:d0:9e:e2:d2

        inet addr :192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0

        UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500  Metric :1

        RX packets:40 errors :0 dropped :0 overruns :0 frame :0

        TX packets:61 errors:0 dropped :0 overruns :0 carrier :0

        collisions :0 txqueuelen :1000

        RX bytes:4819  TX bytes : 7934

        Interrupt:27 Base address :0x2000

 

lo      Link encap:Local Loopback

        inet addr :127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0

        UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric :1

        RX packets:32 errors :0 dropped :0 overruns :0 frame :0

        TX packets:32 errors :0 dropped :0 overruns :0 carrier :0

        collisions :0 txqueuelen :0

 

Hope this makes things clearer

 

cheers

Hi mate,

 

When i enter ping -c 5 localhost  i get

 

ping tower (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data

 

5 packets transmitted, 5 recieved, 0% loss, time 3997ms

rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.005/0.008/0.017/0.004 ms

 

when i enter ifconfig

 

eth0   Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1f:d0:9e:e2:d2

         inet addr :192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0

         UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500  Metric :1

         RX packets:40 errors :0 dropped :0 overruns :0 frame :0

         TX packets:61 errors:0 dropped :0 overruns :0 carrier :0

         collisions :0 txqueuelen :1000

         RX bytes:4819  TX bytes : 7934

         Interrupt:27 Base address :0x2000

 

lo       Link encap:Local Loopback

         inet addr :127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0

         UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric :1

         RX packets:32 errors :0 dropped :0 overruns :0 frame :0

         TX packets:32 errors :0 dropped :0 overruns :0 carrier :0

         collisions :0 txqueuelen :0

 

Hope this makes things clearer

 

cheers

OK, that's good.

 

What seems to be missing is the ability to translate a "name" to an ip address, or, the samba service does not have permission to get to the files it needs.

 

I'm guessing have no DNS server defined.

type:

net lookup google.com

 

and

cat /etc/hosts

 

and

cat /etc/resolv.conv

 

Another way to know what Samba is seeing in your configuration is to type:

testparm

 

It should alert you of any format errors.

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Ok when i inter  net lookup google.com  it returns

 

74.125.67.100

 

 

cat /etc/hosts returns

 

127.0.0.1    TOWER localhost

 

cat /etc/resolv.conv  this returns

 

cat: /etc/resolv.conv: No such file or directory

 

testparm  gives me a large processing section with each movie folder  ( i made a blunder when copying across and they are not within disk 1 folder just appear on the drive)

 

says Loaded services file ol

warning: some share names longer than 12 charactersthese may not be accessible to older clients.

 

Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE

press enter to see dump

 

lists movie folder paths

 

cheers

 

 

Ok when i inter   net lookup google.com  it returns

 

74.125.67.100

 

 

cat /etc/hosts returns

 

127.0.0.1     TOWER localhost

 

cat /etc/resolv.conv  this returns

 

cat: /etc/resolv.conv: No such file or directory

 

testparm  gives me a large processing section with each movie folder  ( i made a blunder when copying across and they are not within disk 1 folder just appear on the drive)

 

says Loaded services file ol

warning: some share names longer than 12 charactersthese may not be accessible to older clients.

 

Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE

press enter to see dump

 

lists movie folder paths

 

cheers

 

 

I think I understand now what is happening.

You've accidentally created a situation where each "movie" is their own share on the LAN and it is just overwhelmed.

 

To fix this is not too hard, you should be able to do this for each of your disks in turn

First, disable user-shares until you get things organized.  (I think you need to stop the array to enable/disable them)

 

Once disabled, you can do everything on the unRAID command line, or use file-explorer in windows on the disk shares.

 

In linux...

 

cd /mnt/disk1

mkdir movies

mv * movies

It will complain you can't move movies to itself.  That is expected, but the wildcard character "*" will save a lot of typing.

 

Repeat with each of your disks (disk1, disk2, disk3... in turn.)

 

the "mkdir" command will create a movies directory

the "mv" (move) command will move the individual directories named after the individual movies into the top level "movies" folder.

 

Then, you can reboot (just to clean things out of memory), and then re-enable user-shares.

 

Joe L.

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Thanks again Joe. My problem now is probably my lack of linux knowledge.

 

I have 103 share entries for each film i transferred over from windows pc. Plus i have a disk 1 share and a movies share.

 

Im having trouble removing/ammending the shares.

 

It wont let me delete the user share as says its not empty (as it has all the film folders) and when i look in disk1/movies it also lists the film folders.

 

Ive manually went in and removed a couple of files but now ive lost both the films from disk1/movies and the user directory so now im worried what to delete and what not to delete

 

cheers again

Thanks again Joe. My problem now is probably my lack of linux knowledge.

 

I have 103 share entries for each film i transferred over from windows pc. Plus i have a disk 1 share and a movies share.

 

Im having trouble removing/ammending the shares.

 

It wont let me delete the user share as says its not empty (as it has all the film folders) and when i look in disk1/movies it also lists the film folders.

 

Ive manually went in and removed a couple of files but now ive lost both the films from disk1/movies and the user directory so now im worried what to delete and what not to delete

 

cheers again

/mnt/user is a set of pointers to the actual files stored in /mnt/disk1,2,3 etc.  Think of them as shortcuts.  Removing a file from either will remove it from both views.

 

Easiest way to clean things up... TURN OFF USER SHARES.  Until you get things organized, forget they exist.

Export your SMB disk shares as read/write.

 

Answer a few questions... how many data disks do you have?   

From what you said, you had one directory per movie on those disks.  Did you create "movies" top level directories as I suggested earlier?  Did you move the individual movie direcories into the "movies" directory?

 

As far as all the user-shares, under the config folder on the flash drive are files that store the configuration for all your user-shares.  You can probably delete those that are not needed while user-shares are turned off.  It sounds like you had a bit over 100 movies.

 

Joe L.

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Hi again Joe, I followed your steps and got to the point where it said cannot move 'movies' to a subdirectory of itself

 

but if i access cd /mnt/disk1/movies/

 

and use ls all movie folders are located .

 

At present ive only have 1 *1tb parity drive which i havent enabled 2 *1tb drives with movies and an additional 1 tb installed with nothing on it yet i still have a bit to do (7 tb in total)

 

So at this point should i be removing flash drive and inseting in pc and trying to remove share info and then re-enabling and seeing if i can access it over network.

 

cheers

Hi again Joe, I followed your steps and got to the point where it said cannot move 'movies' to a subdirectory of itself

 

but if i access cd /mnt/disk1/movies/

 

and use ls all movie folders are located .

Good.  All the movies are nor in the "movies" directory.

 

The same should be done on disk2, assuming you have movies there too. (It may still be empty... you'll have to tell me if there are movie folders at the top leevel there too named after each of your movies, or just one "movies" directory you created under disk2 following my original suggestions.

At present ive only have 1 *1tb parity drive which i havent enabled 2 *1tb drives with movies and an additional 1 tb installed with nothing on it yet i still have a bit to do (7 tb in total)

 

So at this point should i be removing flash drive and inseting in pc and trying to remove share info and then re-enabling and seeing if i can access it over network.

 

cheers

Actually, you can get to the flash drive without having to move it.

 

At the linux prompt, type

cd /boot/config/shares

ls

 

You will see a file for  each of the user-shares you configured.  You can delete them all at this point.

The command to remove a file is

rm filename.cfg

If the name has embedded spaces, surround the name with quotes.

rm "james bond - thunderball.cfg"

 

Once youve moved your movies so there will only be a few top level folders on the disks, then unRAID will create the user-shares for you.  I personally have a "Movies", "Pictures", "MP3" and "data" top level folders. Everything else is in sub-folders.

At present ive only have 1 *1tb parity drive which i havent enabled 2 *1tb drives with movies and an additional 1 tb installed with nothing on it yet i still have a bit to do (7 tb in total)

 

1TB + 2TB + 1TB = 7TB  ???  You lost me there.

 

Assuming the total is wrong, you have 1TB (parity) + 3TB (data) = 3 TB (actual capacity).

 

Unless you meant you have 7 TB of data still to migrate to the server, in which case....you need more hard drives!

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Yes mate i meant i have 7tb of data in total other drives still to be added but wont bother just now as what i have added at moment is giving me more than enough trouble.

cheers

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Ok was still having problems with shares etc on my unraid server and couldnt get to the bottom of it.

 

So i installed server software on another pen drive and removed the existing drives and instaled a new blank hard drive.

 

Added it to new network and windows pc seen the Tower and allowed me to connect to it so problems on my original server are obviously share related as Joe thought. Problem there was i couldnt seem to fix. So i wondered is it possible to add these drives to the new unraid server as i cant lose the movie files on the existing tb drives or can i remove all share settings from existing server and set it up again.

 

Cheers in advance for any help.

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