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I'm trying to add a new drive to my machine. After installing the drive and restarting the array (without this drive) I initiated the pre-clear of the new drive using gfjardim's pre-clear plugin.  After receiving several error messages regarding the new drive I returned it for a replacement drive.  This evening I installed the new replacement drive and started the pre-clear again.  This new drive is the same Seagate 3TB model, obviously with a new serial number.

 

9% into the preclear I got these four notices in quick succession.

 

Event: unRAID device sdb SMART message [5]

Subject: Notice [TOWER] - reallocated sector ct returned to normal value

Description: ST3000DM001-1ER166_Z501N3RT (sdb)

Importance: normal

 

Event: unRAID device sdb SMART message [187]

Subject: Notice [TOWER] - reported uncorrect returned to normal value

Description: ST3000DM001-1ER166_Z501N3RT (sdb)

Importance: normal

 

Event: unRAID device sdb SMART message [197]

Subject: Notice [TOWER] - current pending sector returned to normal value

Description: ST3000DM001-1ER166_Z501N3RT (sdb)

Importance: normal

 

Event: unRAID device sdb SMART message [198]

Subject: Notice [TOWER] - offline uncorrectable returned to normal value

Description: ST3000DM001-1ER166_Z501N3RT (sdb)

Importance: normal

 

I don't know what to make of these messages since I didn't receive any error messages or notices that anything was abnormal.  I wouldn't expect these are corrections of the error messages from the other (returned) drive.

  • Community Expert

Post SMART for the drive.

  • Author
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-4.1.13-unRAID] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 (AF)
Device Model:     ST3000DM001-1ER166
Serial Number:    Z501N3RT
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 086cac477
Firmware Version: CC25
User Capacity:    3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2, ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 3b
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Tue Dec 29 18:46:17 2015 CST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)	Offline data collection activity
				was never started.
				Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)	The previous self-test routine completed
				without error or no self-test has ever 
				been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection: 		(   80) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: 			 (0x73) SMART execute Offline immediate.
				Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
				Suspend Offline collection upon new
				command.
				No Offline surface scan supported.
				Self-test supported.
				Conveyance Self-test supported.
				Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)	Saves SMART data before entering
				power-saving mode.
				Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)	Error logging supported.
				General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time: 	 (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 ( 311) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 (   2) minutes.
SCT capabilities: 	       (0x1085)	SCT Status supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   116   099   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       105868552
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   100   100   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       1
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   100   253   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       29196
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       2
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0 0 0
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   066   066   045    Old_age   Always       -       34 (Min/Max 28/34)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       6
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   034   040   000    Old_age   Always       -       34 (0 25 0 0 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0h+38m+23.722s
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       591730646

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

  • Author

Here is the SMART for the one I returned

smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-4.1.13-unRAID] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 (AF)
Device Model:     ST3000DM001-1ER166
Serial Number:    Z501N37C
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 086caf86e
Firmware Version: CC25
User Capacity:    3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    7200 rpm
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2, ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 3b
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sun Dec 27 19:30:18 2015 CST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)	Offline data collection activity
				was never started.
				Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)	The previous self-test routine completed
				without error or no self-test has ever 
				been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection: 		(   80) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: 			 (0x73) SMART execute Offline immediate.
				Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
				Suspend Offline collection upon new
				command.
				No Offline surface scan supported.
				Self-test supported.
				Conveyance Self-test supported.
				Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)	Saves SMART data before entering
				power-saving mode.
				Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)	Error logging supported.
				General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time: 	 (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 ( 316) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 (   2) minutes.
SCT capabilities: 	       (0x1085)	SCT Status supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   114   099   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       152076578
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   100   100   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       1
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   100   253   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       43841
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       1
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age   Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0 0 0
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   067   067   045    Old_age   Always       -       33 (Min/Max 22/33)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       6
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   033   040   000    Old_age   Always       -       33 (0 22 0 0 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       8
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       8
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0h+55m+16.762s
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       880049214

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 2
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1 hours (0 days + 1 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 00 ff ff ff 0f  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0fffffff = 268435455

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 00 00 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:55.984  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 00 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:55.984  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 08 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:55.968  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 08 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:55.968  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 08 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:55.968  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1 hours (0 days + 1 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 00 ff ff ff 0f  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0fffffff = 268435455

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 00 00 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:52.122  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 00 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:52.117  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 00 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:52.117  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 00 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:52.104  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 00 ff ff ff 4f 00      01:57:52.104  READ FPDMA QUEUED

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

That is a very unreliable Seagate model.

I recommend to scrap it as fast as you can.

  • Author

  I've had good service from this drive for several years now.  I've had 4 of them start to fail about 3-5 months before the factory warranty expired and Seagate was quick to send me replacement drives. All the replacement drives are still running, two of them for over 2 years.  I'm satisfied with getting 4+ years out of a $90 drive.

  As for drive reliability, that seems to be chasing the wind. Every person I've spoke with has their own opinion and favorite. There are so many variables that go into drive quality that unless you have the purchase power (volume) to pick and choose production lots, its a fool's errand for a non-pro, like me to find the perfect drive.

 

  On the other hand, once I get a drive its only prudent to test it before putting it into the array.

 

 

So anyone have any idea what the 'return to normal' notices are about?

  • Community Expert

Your new disk looks healthy,  notifications are about the change,  it also happens to me sometimes , with some delay.

  • Author

I stumbled upon this report tonight while looking for something else.

 

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q3-2015/

 

According to this chart, they use a lot of these seagate drives despite a relatively higher failure rate.

 

This data did give me the opportunity to pull some deeper statistics.  The first & obvious stat to consider when buying a drive is $/TB.  Then compare that to the failure rate and decide if the savings in $/TB between various options is worth the increase failure rate.  This chart also lists an average # months in service.  Now I can also price TB over time to find HGST 2TB may be a better deal even if it cost more per TB, since it may live about 40% longer.

 

 

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