keland44 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 @tliptalk i think you might need to make a change in your bios i found this on another forum. you can leave onboard video enabled but should disable dual mode. with MMIO>4GB enabled, you should be able to use both blue slots for gfx card at the same time. I have a gtx 950 and nvs 510 in there t the same time. No sure if our board support SLI. prob not. this is the thread https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/intel-s2600cp-and-nvidia-gtx-1070-problem.11214/ i'm very interested in seeing how your 1060 works out i want to go with the natex setup with a 1070 or 1080 to do video editing via vm using adobe premiere. i wanted to see how feasible this is any insight you could provide would be awesome Having an issue trying to add a GPU to the s2600cp. Nvidia GTX 1060 3GB. Placing it in the bottom blue slot (slot 3) and the LSI raid card is in slot 5. Without the GPU works perfectly. With the GPU it stays stuck on the first bios screen with the BIOS number and server board name and the flashing bar in the bottom left. GPU fans spin up for a second then turn off. No beeps or other alerts. Keyboard lights up, raid card has lights etc. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment
talmania Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Well after posting a new thread on CPU/Mobo forum looking at a e5 v4 proc and motherboard I find this thread and realize the savings are more than substantial by going a dual e5-2670 route. I'm looking at the natex combo with the intel mobo and wondering for those who are running it are you still happy with the motherboard? I'm not planning on any GPU passthrough or even VM's at this point. But for 308.00 for the combo with mobo (I have tons of pulled DDR3-1600 PC3L-12800R from legacy systems) it seems like an absolute NO brainer! Using a Norco 4220 and the cooling would be my only sticking point (in addition to the PS requirements of the finicky board but I have a couple different models lying around Corsair 850 etc that I hope might work). People that went the Intel S2600 route still happy with it? Did you have to make modifications for cooling? Otherwise I'm looking at the Supermicro or ASRock option and those are more than the combo price alone! This may be my first post on the Unraid forums, but I have been reading and using for years. I am on my second Unraid system built from tips on the "Good Deal's" forum. My current rig is a Natex S2600 dual Xeon with 128 gig with the Intel case/power supply/cooler and drive cages talked about here. I built it about 8 months ago, originally planned on trying to run it as a Hackintosh server. That didn't work so well, so I put Windows 10 on it, but was never happy with it, so went back to trying to get OSX on it again. After wasting a bunch of time on that, I tried a demo of Unraid 6 on it, liked that so much that I moved all of my media off my old Unraid 5 server, and restarted the S2600 as a new Unraid 6 (using my purchased Key) server. Moved all my media, and have totally loved everything since then. I am learning about dockers and virtual machines, and when I mess something up, I can just delete the experimental thing and nobody knows about it. That is the coolest thing about the dockers and VMs. There is enough horsepower that I can spin up a test docker or VM and it does not affect the "production" Plex server. If I have it transcode, the fans will spin up high, but my CPU coolers are passive, so that is pretty much expected. I may try to replace the large Intel fans with Noctua fans to see if there is a difference. Chef Jay Thanks for the feedback on your experience. Much appreciated! For the cost I can't go wrong and have placed an order. I ended up digging into cooling solutions and found the Nocua referenced earlier is to tall for a Norco 4220/4224 so I bought the smaller NH-u9DXi4. If anyone comes across this post with a 4220/4224 the u12 won't fit apparently. Looking forward to the new build! Quote Link to comment
nToxik Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 A lot of these are engineering samples (ES, QS). Does that not bother anyone? Quote Link to comment
saarg Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 A lot of these are engineering samples (ES, QS). Does that not bother anyone? If you buy the wrong ones, but most of them were not ES samples. Quote Link to comment
RobJ Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 After 71 pages, it was about time this thread started to taper off! Perhaps as part of a good wrap-up, now would be a good time for any users with great systems built on the advice found here to write their system up in the new Hardware recommendations for unRAID servers with VM's thread. As I recall, I think there were several systems borne here in this long thread, with some good advice on hardware recommendations ... I'd love to see some of that in here: Hardware recommendations for unRAID servers with VM's Quote Link to comment
amazing21 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Please help to solve the amber light blinking and after it will becaome steady amber light of S2600cp board https://postimg.org/image/kstde27wl/6d40296c/ I'm not expert to this but I'm willing to learn about this things. Thank you Quote Link to comment
SSD Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Just thought I would post, if plex or other video is a primary use case for you, the Braswell and especially Kaby Lake CPUs have special features to support HEVC (a.k.A., h.265) streams. A slow Celeron with these features will outperform a fast Xeon on this particular task. Since HEVC is used extensively for 4k video, and produces smaller file sizes with comparable video quality for any video resolution, it is likely the future. I'd be hesitant to invest in pre-Kaby Lake for that reason. Quote Link to comment
keland44 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Just thought I would post, if plex or other video is a primary use case for you, the Braswell and especially Kaby Lake CPUs have special features to support HEVC (a.k.A., h.265) streams. A slow Celeron with these features will outperform a fast Xeon on this particular task. Since HEVC is used extensively for 4k video, and produces smaller file sizes with comparable video quality for any video resolution, it is likely the future. I'd be hesitant to invest in pre-Kaby Lake for that reason. i'm wondering if it would be possible to offload the streams decoding or encoding to a graphics card just thinking about the expense building something on par with a server grade setup vs using kaby lake cpu + in the setup Quote Link to comment
mgworek Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Just thought I would post, if plex or other video is a primary use case for you, the Braswell and especially Kaby Lake CPUs have special features to support HEVC (a.k.A., h.265) streams. A slow Celeron with these features will outperform a fast Xeon on this particular task. Since HEVC is used extensively for 4k video, and produces smaller file sizes with comparable video quality for any video resolution, it is likely the future. I'd be hesitant to invest in pre-Kaby Lake for that reason. Thanks for the info. I am going to rebuild soon and saw this these and was thinking about it. Quote Link to comment
garyhgaryh Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I just bought a pair of e5-2670 for $83 ea on ebay. I guess I'm late to the game as people were buying these for $65 just last year. Anyone have an opinion on the intel dual socket motherboards like the Intel S2600CO series? I just built up my i7-4790k and this dual xenon project is getting me excited :). Quote Link to comment
garyhgaryh Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) On 2/26/2017 at 9:58 PM, garyhgaryh said: I just bought a pair of e5-2670 for $83 ea on ebay. I guess I'm late to the game as people were buying these for $65 just last year. Anyone have an opinion on the intel dual socket motherboards like the Intel S2600CO series? I just built up my i7-4790k and this dual xenon project is getting me excited :). I'm done! I went on craigslist and bought an Intel Pedestal Server with dual Xenon e5-2620 with 500G HD, CD-ROM, 16G (8 x 2G) RAM, 550 Watt PS, and 8 hot swappable bays for $350. No OS installed. It's a P4000 chasis with a S2600co motherboard (P4308 to be exact on the chasis). I could not get the 500G in the hot swap rack recognized so I plugged into one of the white sata ports and was able to install win 7 pro (needed to copy the files to the HD first for some reason for it to install). How do I get the blue sata ports to work? I ran the passmark cpu test and got 13,500 marks for the dual e5-2620s. Not bad for 6-cores/12 threads. Slightly faster than my i7-4790k at 13,000 marks. I swapped the CPUs. I have one xenon that is from malay and the other from costa rica. Not exactly matching e5-2670.. Booted right up. Ran the benchmark and was rewarded with 19,500 marks (world avg is about 18,400). I spent a total of $516 on this very fast system and am stoked! I just added a cheap video card so I can run my 3d benchmark to completion and added a Samsung 250G SSD (parts I already have). Can anyone point me to cheap memory? I can't find 64G for $85 ($170 for 128G) anymore. You guys are luck to get the RAM at that price. I'm looking to go 128G. Edited March 5, 2017 by garyhgaryh Quote Link to comment
garyhgaryh Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 On 10/24/2016 at 6:52 AM, tliptak said: Having an issue trying to add a GPU to the s2600cp. Nvidia GTX 1060 3GB. Placing it in the bottom blue slot (slot 3) and the LSI raid card is in slot 5. Without the GPU works perfectly. With the GPU it stays stuck on the first bios screen with the BIOS number and server board name and the flashing bar in the bottom left. GPU fans spin up for a second then turn off. No beeps or other alerts. Keyboard lights up, raid card has lights etc. Any ideas? I had the same issue. Plugged the card in slot 3. Had to go to the bios and assigned vga output to cpu2. That worked for me. Quote Link to comment
tr0910 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 The Intel 2600 mb in p4000 chassis is a sweet combo. Server quality components at an affordable price. The only box it doesn't tick is lots of hot swap drive bays. Mine are configured with dual platinum hot swap PSU. Once the BIOS is updated the system is even quiet. Check Natex for RAM. It was $170 for 128 GB, but haven't checked recently. My blue SATA ports are working fine. BIOS issue? via mobile Quote Link to comment
Drider Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 3/5/2017 at 0:39 PM, tr0910 said: Check Natex for RAM. It was $170 for 128 GB, but haven't checked recently. I was recently looking as I've had thoughts of building a 3rd monster, however it looks like NATEX has doubled their price on the 64GB kits from ~ $85 to $170.00, (which was what I had bought [x2]), as they no longer have stock of those particular 64GB kits. Although this is still a decent option: Intel S2600CP2J Motherboard w/ Dual E5-2670 SR0KX , 128Gb. PC3L-10600R Ram I just personally use the ASRock Motherboard: ASRock EP2C602-4L/D16 SSI EEB Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 Intel C602 DDR3 1866 / 1600 / 1333 / 1066 R/LR ECC and UDIMM Quote Link to comment
garyhgaryh Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 On 3/5/2017 at 9:39 AM, tr0910 said: The Intel 2600 mb in p4000 chassis is a sweet combo. Server quality components at an affordable price. The only box it doesn't tick is lots of hot swap drive bays. Mine are configured with dual platinum hot swap PSU. Once the BIOS is updated the system is even quiet. Check Natex for RAM. It was $170 for 128 GB, but haven't checked recently. My blue SATA ports are working fine. BIOS issue? via mobile I haven't found anything close to the $170 for 128GB. For that price you can get 64GB. I ended up getting 64GB for $70, but it was 16x4GB. The 4GB sticks are the only good deals now-a-days. I got in too late on these deals (RAM and CPU). 8 hours ago, Drider said: I was recently looking as I've had thoughts of building a 3rd monster, however it looks like NATEX has doubled their price on the 64GB kits from ~ $85 to $170.00, (which was what I had bought [x2]), as they no longer have stock of those particular 64GB kits. Although this is still a decent option: Intel S2600CP2J Motherboard w/ Dual E5-2670 SR0KX , 128Gb. PC3L-10600R Ram I just personally use the ASRock Motherboard: ASRock EP2C602-4L/D16 SSI EEB Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011 Intel C602 DDR3 1866 / 1600 / 1333 / 1066 R/LR ECC and UDIMM I thought about getting that kit. They also have one for $608. Same specs but the ram, i think, is slower. I just can't justify having another system (I built two new systems in the past two months). Quote Link to comment
keland44 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 just picked up the 64gb ram 2670 model one along with a gtx1080 and 3 8tb hd's Quote Link to comment
DoeBoye Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, keland44 said: just picked up the 64gb ram 2670 model one along with a gtx1080 and 3 8tb hd's Congrats! This thing is a monster! Enjoy!! Quote Link to comment
keland44 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 hours ago, DoeBoye said: Congrats! This thing is a monster! Enjoy!! ha thanks. hopefully the case i have will fit everything :-S if not i'll have to pick up a case and power supply well see through Quote Link to comment
Living Legend Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 What are people finding Xeon E5-2670 pairs for now? $163 is the lowest I see on eBay for 2. 1 Quote Link to comment
Living Legend Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Thoughts on this one? Only $50: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-E5-2670-2-6GHz-Eight-Core-CM8062101082713S-Processor-/112359307107?hash=item1a2922f763:g:2fgAAOSwhQhY5BP1 Quote Link to comment
DoeBoye Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Living Legend said: Thoughts on this one? He's a new account with zero feedback. Price is (was) great, but I would be leery of buying from this seller (though it looks like someone already bought all 10 chips). Also, no mention of which stepping. If you plan on using it for virtualization, you need to be sure to get the SR0KX version. Edited April 5, 2017 by DoeBoye Quote Link to comment
Living Legend Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, DoeBoye said: He's a new account with zero feedback. Price is (was) great, but I would be leery of buying from this seller (though it looks like someone already bought all 10 chips). Also, no mention of which stepping. If you plan on using it for virtualization, you need to be sure to get the SR0KX version. Good point @DoeBoye Outside of the E5-2670, what else have people had success with on unRAID virtualization? Anyone using the 2650, 2660 or 2665? EDIT: And out of curiosity, what type of differences will there be when comparing a single core of higher speed, say 3.2GHz to an 8 core of slower speed, like the E5-2650 @ 2.0GHz? Obviously the multi core can multitask better, but how will performance suffer on a single core dropping from 3.2GHz to 2.0GHz? Edited April 5, 2017 by Living Legend Quote Link to comment
DoeBoye Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Living Legend said: Outside of the E5-2670, what else have people had success with on unRAID virtualization? Anyone using the 2650, 2660 or 2665? I'm pretty sure some people in the forums have bought the 2650 without issue. Not much difference between it and the 2670. I believe the stepping you would want is the SR0KQ. Have you checked out Natex? They still have some decent deals on mobo/chip/ram packages. 1 Quote Link to comment
Living Legend Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, DoeBoye said: I'm pretty sure some people in the forums have bought the 2650 without issue. Not much difference between it and the 2670. I believe the stepping you would want is the SR0KQ. Have you checked out Natex? They still have some decent deals on mobo/chip/ram packages. @DoeBoye I have not checked them out, but I'll take a look. I'm currently running an old Pentium single core G2120 without any VMs and just a bunch of dockers. Essentially maxing it out now. Do you think there will be any noticeable differences in the single core performance stepping down 3.2 to 2.0Ghz? Quote Link to comment
DoeBoye Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Living Legend said: Do you think there will be any noticeable differences in the single core performance stepping down 3.2 to 2.0Ghz? Nope. Your G2120 scores a 1640 Passmark for a single core, while the 2670 gets a 1597 Passmark score. Not enough of a difference to be noticeable. And of course, if you look at the combined score for the dual 2670 vs the G2120, the difference is enormous (at the cost of more power, of course) :). With 2 VMs, a bunch of dockers, and 15 or so plugins installed, I rarely see cpu usage above 15%. What I really love with having so many cores available, is that I can dedicate cores to specific tasks (Vms and Dockers) without concern for usage overlap or affecting the core functionality of unRaid. [Edit] Also, for the record, if we're talking the 2670, it runs at 2.6Ghz, not 2.0 [Edit 2] And, your G2120 runs at 3.1Ghz, without turbo. The 2670 has turbo boost to 3.3Ghz when required... Edited April 5, 2017 by DoeBoye Quote Link to comment
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