ijuarez Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 i got the intel board from Natex and need to apply the latest firmware, i know some members have found them. Is there a way to post them at the top of this thread to help other users. Quote Link to comment
jcconnell Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 How are those CPU coolers working for you? I'm putting together a similar build and I'm considering those same coolers. I'd like to know temps if you have them. Quote Link to comment
meep Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Starting my build. Case: Intel P4308XXMHGR - Price: $110 + $30 Shipping - http://www.ebay.com/itm/380946877466 Mobo / CPU: Intel S2600CP + Dual E5-2670 SR0KX - $305 - http://www.natex.us/product-p/s2600cp-cpu-kit.htm RAM: Nanya 8GB 2Rx4 PC3L-10600R x 8 for 64GB total - $64 - http://www.natex.us/8GB-2Rx4-PC3L-10600R-p/nt8gc72c4ng0nl-cg.htm Ducting: Intel FCPUPMAD Air Duct - Amazon $55 IO Shield: $10 Ordered all of that. Is there any concern with that RAM? Was very cheap. Wondering if I should go 128GB instead? Pretty happy with all of that for under $550 shipped. Then grab a few of the Seagate 4TB drives and I have several 2TB drives currently. For cooling do I need these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-AUPSRCBTP-Passive-HeatSink-S2600CP-S2600-LGA2011-3-LGA2011-/151787267251 or does the one from Natex cover it? Hi @tliptak Did you get the hardware yet? I'm interested in how that memory is working out as it's a good deal cheaper than what Natex are selling as part of the bundle deals. Is it even ECC? Very limited specs on the product page. Thanks Quote Link to comment
Naldinho Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 i got the intel board from Natex and need to apply the latest firmware, i know some members have found them. Is there a way to post them at the top of this thread to help other users. I didn't change the firmware --- everything seems to be working fine so I'm hesitant to go messing around now. What is the advantage of updating to the latest firmware? Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Starting my build. Case: Intel P4308XXMHGR - Price: $110 + $30 Shipping - http://www.ebay.com/itm/380946877466 Mobo / CPU: Intel S2600CP + Dual E5-2670 SR0KX - $305 - http://www.natex.us/product-p/s2600cp-cpu-kit.htm RAM: Nanya 8GB 2Rx4 PC3L-10600R x 8 for 64GB total - $64 - http://www.natex.us/8GB-2Rx4-PC3L-10600R-p/nt8gc72c4ng0nl-cg.htm Ducting: Intel FCPUPMAD Air Duct - Amazon $55 IO Shield: $10 Ordered all of that. Is there any concern with that RAM? Was very cheap. Wondering if I should go 128GB instead? Pretty happy with all of that for under $550 shipped. Then grab a few of the Seagate 4TB drives and I have several 2TB drives currently. For cooling do I need these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-AUPSRCBTP-Passive-HeatSink-S2600CP-S2600-LGA2011-3-LGA2011-/151787267251 or does the one from Natex cover it? Hi @tliptak Did you get the hardware yet? I'm interested in how that memory is working out as it's a good deal cheaper than what Natex are selling as part of the bundle deals. Is it even ECC? Very limited specs on the product page. Thanks Not yet, coming today it looks like. Will be a bit of a delay for a full setup until the ducting / CPU coolers get here. I did see someone else on the servethehome forum who had it and mentioned his system was working well (not the ram specifically). I am also curious about the firmware update. Seemed like there were some good benefits to the latest version with Intel chassis. Separately bought 4 of the 4TB Seagate drives to add to my 3 3TB drives I have currently. Also bought a 250GB SSD as a cache drive. Quote Link to comment
acropora Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Starting my build. Case: Intel P4308XXMHGR - Price: $110 + $30 Shipping - http://www.ebay.com/itm/380946877466 Mobo / CPU: Intel S2600CP + Dual E5-2670 SR0KX - $305 - http://www.natex.us/product-p/s2600cp-cpu-kit.htm RAM: Nanya 8GB 2Rx4 PC3L-10600R x 8 for 64GB total - $64 - http://www.natex.us/8GB-2Rx4-PC3L-10600R-p/nt8gc72c4ng0nl-cg.htm Ducting: Intel FCPUPMAD Air Duct - Amazon $55 IO Shield: $10 Ordered all of that. Is there any concern with that RAM? Was very cheap. Wondering if I should go 128GB instead? Pretty happy with all of that for under $550 shipped. Then grab a few of the Seagate 4TB drives and I have several 2TB drives currently. For cooling do I need these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-AUPSRCBTP-Passive-HeatSink-S2600CP-S2600-LGA2011-3-LGA2011-/151787267251 or does the one from Natex cover it? Hi @tliptak Did you get the hardware yet? I'm interested in how that memory is working out as it's a good deal cheaper than what Natex are selling as part of the bundle deals. Is it even ECC? Very limited specs on the product page. Thanks I'm using the nanya ram on a different motherboard and it works fine. Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Whats the best way to get more SATA ports on the SP2600? I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/IO-Crest-Controller-Non-Raid-SI-PEX40064/dp/B00AZ9T3OU but not sure that will cut it. Saw some mentions of the Intel boards but a little confused by the B0 vs D1 stepping and what the actually means for an Unraid user. Quote Link to comment
keland44 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Starting my build. Case: Intel P4308XXMHGR - Price: $110 + $30 Shipping - http://www.ebay.com/itm/380946877466 Mobo / CPU: Intel S2600CP + Dual E5-2670 SR0KX - $305 - http://www.natex.us/product-p/s2600cp-cpu-kit.htm RAM: Nanya 8GB 2Rx4 PC3L-10600R x 8 for 64GB total - $64 - http://www.natex.us/8GB-2Rx4-PC3L-10600R-p/nt8gc72c4ng0nl-cg.htm Ducting: Intel FCPUPMAD Air Duct - Amazon $55 IO Shield: $10 Ordered all of that. Is there any concern with that RAM? Was very cheap. Wondering if I should go 128GB instead? Pretty happy with all of that for under $550 shipped. Then grab a few of the Seagate 4TB drives and I have several 2TB drives currently. For cooling do I need these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-AUPSRCBTP-Passive-HeatSink-S2600CP-S2600-LGA2011-3-LGA2011-/151787267251 or does the one from Natex cover it? Hi @tliptak Did you get the hardware yet? I'm interested in how that memory is working out as it's a good deal cheaper than what Natex are selling as part of the bundle deals. Is it even ECC? Very limited specs on the product page. Thanks I'm using the nanya ram on a different motherboard and it works fine. that's good to know that's the board I was eyeing on natex Quote Link to comment
alternativesurfer Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Whats the best way to get more SATA ports on the SP2600? I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/IO-Crest-Controller-Non-Raid-SI-PEX40064/dp/B00AZ9T3OU but not sure that will cut it. Saw some mentions of the Intel boards but a little confused by the B0 vs D1 stepping and what the actually means for an Unraid user. It would be a better idea to grab something like: http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Serveraid-M1015-Controller-46M0831/dp/B0034DMSO6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=21jD0PFfhNL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0GK614Y1459NK25XENRF That would allow you to add 8 additiona drives (using SAS to SATA breakout cables) and wouldn't run into the same bandwidth issues that PCIE 1X slot would have. Quote Link to comment
betaman Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Probably a stupid question but after reading the white paper on updating the FRUSDR, I'm still not sure how I execute the SDR without actually running through the entire BIOS update again? I need to change some fan configuration options because I'm removing the passive copper heatsinks and installing two CPU fans. I know there's a couple txt files that can manually be edited but I'd prefer not to go that route if there's an easy way to initiate the SDR update (I say update because I'm not updating the SDR version but rather just the configuration information)? Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Whats the best way to get more SATA ports on the SP2600? I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/IO-Crest-Controller-Non-Raid-SI-PEX40064/dp/B00AZ9T3OU but not sure that will cut it. Saw some mentions of the Intel boards but a little confused by the B0 vs D1 stepping and what the actually means for an Unraid user. It would be a better idea to grab something like: http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Serveraid-M1015-Controller-46M0831/dp/B0034DMSO6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=21jD0PFfhNL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0GK614Y1459NK25XENRF That would allow you to add 8 additiona drives (using SAS to SATA breakout cables) and wouldn't run into the same bandwidth issues that PCIE 1X slot would have. Must be a cheaper option out there. Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 They're about $60 off ebay or ebay stores. Quote Link to comment
jwegman Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 If you have an Intel S2600 family board (such as the natex.us s2600cpj2), $40 will get you a *new* bulk packaged RMS25KB080 (B0 stepping) PCIe gen2 card with the LSI SAS2208 chipset; which crossflashes (if your inclined) with the LSI/Avago 9205-8e IT or IR FW. However Intel uses a plain LSI IR FW, so there's no large incentive to crossflash. Unraid will work just fine with IR fw. Link (note they advertise $150, but they've been accepting $40): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-RMS25KB080-OEM-SG35828-Integrated-PCIe-RAID-Module-New-Bulk-Packaging-/182094011933?hash=item2a65a61e1d Disclaimer; this card is hardware locked to only work on select Intel E5 Xeon boards (such as the Intel S2600). These will *not* work on other manufacturer's boards. Crossflashing does not remove this limitation. These are a great way to add ports for people with this natex e5-2670 cpu / S2600cp combo's. The cards run hot, but so do all SAS2208's (along with the SAS2008's) If you purchase one, and happen to get the newer D1 stepping (which wouldn't actually surprise me, as they have ~500 of these cards, some may be D1 steppings despite their claims of not having any), this is a PCIe gen3 card and crossflashes with the LSI 9207-8i FW. Again, this works just fine with unRAID and as it's a PCIe gen3 card, has more PCie bandwidth for lots of SSD's (not really a concern for most unRAID systems)... This is a cheaper, and IMHO a better card *when* you happen to have one of the select Intel E5 Xeon boards that the card will work in, than the IBM M1015 (SAS2008 chipset) that was mentioned. But the IBM M1015 is a good/very popular card too. Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 If you have an Intel S2600 family board (such as the natex.us s2600cpj2), $40 will get you a *new* bulk packaged RMS25KB080 (B0 stepping) PCIe gen2 card with the LSI SAS2208 chipset; which crossflashes (if your inclined) with the LSI/Avago 9205-8e IT or IR FW. However Intel uses a plain LSI IR FW, so there's no large incentive to crossflash. Unraid will work just fine with IR fw. Link (note they advertise $150, but they've been accepting $40): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-RMS25KB080-OEM-SG35828-Integrated-PCIe-RAID-Module-New-Bulk-Packaging-/182094011933?hash=item2a65a61e1d Disclaimer; this card is hardware locked to only work on select Intel E5 Xeon boards (such as the Intel S2600). These will *not* work on other manufacturer's boards. Crossflashing does not remove this limitation. These are a great way to add ports for people with this natex e5-2670 cpu / S2600cp combo's. The cards run hot, but so do all SAS2208's (along with the SAS2008's) If you purchase one, and happen to get the newer D1 stepping (which wouldn't actually surprise me, as they have ~500 of these cards, some may be D1 steppings despite their claims of not having any), this is a PCIe gen3 card and crossflashes with the LSI 9207-8i FW. Again, this works just fine with unRAID and as it's a PCIe gen3 card, has more PCie bandwidth for lots of SSD's (not really a concern for most unRAID systems)... This is a cheaper, and IMHO a better card *when* you happen to have one of the select Intel E5 Xeon boards that the card will work in, than the IBM M1015 (SAS2008 chipset) that was mentioned. But the IBM M1015 is a good/very popular card too. Excellent thanks. Put in an offer for $30 just trying my luck. Will try again at $40 if rejected. I have the Natex S2600 combo. What is the benefit to cross flashing to the LSI/Avago 9205-8e IT fw over leaving the default Intel fw if it's Unraid compatible? Quote Link to comment
keland44 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 If you have an Intel S2600 family board (such as the natex.us s2600cpj2), $40 will get you a *new* bulk packaged RMS25KB080 (B0 stepping) PCIe gen2 card with the LSI SAS2208 chipset; which crossflashes (if your inclined) with the LSI/Avago 9205-8e IT or IR FW. However Intel uses a plain LSI IR FW, so there's no large incentive to crossflash. Unraid will work just fine with IR fw. Link (note they advertise $150, but they've been accepting $40): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-RMS25KB080-OEM-SG35828-Integrated-PCIe-RAID-Module-New-Bulk-Packaging-/182094011933?hash=item2a65a61e1d Disclaimer; this card is hardware locked to only work on select Intel E5 Xeon boards (such as the Intel S2600). These will *not* work on other manufacturer's boards. Crossflashing does not remove this limitation. These are a great way to add ports for people with this natex e5-2670 cpu / S2600cp combo's. The cards run hot, but so do all SAS2208's (along with the SAS2008's) If you purchase one, and happen to get the newer D1 stepping (which wouldn't actually surprise me, as they have ~500 of these cards, some may be D1 steppings despite their claims of not having any), this is a PCIe gen3 card and crossflashes with the LSI 9207-8i FW. Again, this works just fine with unRAID and as it's a PCIe gen3 card, has more PCie bandwidth for lots of SSD's (not really a concern for most unRAID systems)... This is a cheaper, and IMHO a better card *when* you happen to have one of the select Intel E5 Xeon boards that the card will work in, than the IBM M1015 (SAS2008 chipset) that was mentioned. But the IBM M1015 is a good/very popular card too. nice thanks for the info!!! Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ordered two of the RMS25KB080. They took $40 / each. jwegmen, assuming because you have two of the cards you expanded the storage of your P4xxx case. What did you end up getting? Quote Link to comment
jwegman Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ordered two of the RMS25KB080. They took $40 / each. jwegmen, assuming because you have two of the cards you expanded the storage of your P4xxx case. What did you end up getting? What are you asking? What stepping of the cards did I end up getting? The two RMS25KB080's that I received were B0 stepping, and the RMS25JB080 (mezzanine variant of that controller) was also B0 stepping. I did see confirmation from another person who received a D1 stepping of the RMS25JB080 mezzanine card; so we know that they have a mix of steppings of those in their inventory. FYI, the Intel PCN (Product Change Notification) document ID is 11829-00: http://qdms.intel.com/dm/i.aspx/4CC49E0F-EB14-46EA-8791-FE5E232DDC50/PCN111829-00.pdf The PDB (little white sticker) of the RMS25KB080 B0 stepping (that I had received) is G35828-302, and the updated PDB of the D1 stepping is G35828-310. So look for that when you receive your cards to identify the stepping. Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ordered two of the RMS25KB080. They took $40 / each. jwegmen, assuming because you have two of the cards you expanded the storage of your P4xxx case. What did you end up getting? What are you asking? What stepping of the cards did I end up getting? The two RMS25KB080's that I received were B0 stepping, and the RMS25JB080 (mezzanine variant of that controller) was also B0 stepping. I did see confirmation from another person who received a D1 stepping of the RMS25JB080 mezzanine card; so we know that they have a mix of steppings of those in their inventory. FYI, the Intel PCN (Product Change Notification) document ID is 11829-00: http://qdms.intel.com/dm/i.aspx/4CC49E0F-EB14-46EA-8791-FE5E232DDC50/PCN111829-00.pdf The PDB (little white sticker) of the RMS25KB080 B0 stepping (that I had received) is G35828-302, and the updated PDB of the D1 stepping is G35828-310. So look for that when you receive your cards to identify the stepping. Great will do. Apologies for not being clear. Was asking what you purchased to add more hard drive rack space in the P4000. I have the 8x3.5" hotswap bay it came with. It looks like there is not a ton of room behind the three top slots and wondering if you purchased something that fit and / or have any recommendations. Quote Link to comment
jwegman Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Each of my P4000's are currently outfitted with (1) 8x3.5" HSBP drive cage (FUP8X35HSDK) and (1) 8x2.5" HSBP drive cage (FUP8X25HSDKO) (in the 2x5.25" bays). Intel FUP8X35HSDK 8x3.5 Hot-Swap Drive Cage Kit New http://www.ebay.com/itm/380990951500 Intel FUP8X25HSDKO Spare 8x2.5 Hot-Swap Drive Cage Kit for 5.25" Cage Area New http://www.ebay.com/itm/181522558516 Too bad OEMXS doesn't have any more of the FUP8X25HSDKO, they were $40 ea... Hell of a deal for an 8x2.5" HSBP drive cage... Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Each of my P4000's are currently outfitted with (1) 8x3.5" HSBP drive cage (FUP8X35HSDK) and (1) 8x2.5" HSBP drive cage (FUP8X25HSDKO) (in the 2x5.25" bays). Intel FUP8X35HSDK 8x3.5 Hot-Swap Drive Cage Kit New http://www.ebay.com/itm/380990951500 Intel FUP8X25HSDKO Spare 8x2.5 Hot-Swap Drive Cage Kit for 5.25" Cage Area New http://www.ebay.com/itm/181522558516 Too bad OEMXS doesn't have any more of the FUP8X25HSDKO, they were $40 ea... Hell of a deal for an 8x2.5" HSBP drive cage... Great thanks. What is the difference between this http://m.ebay.com/itm/Intel-FUP8X25HSDKS-Spare-8x2-5-Hot-Swap-Drive-Cage-Kit-New-/201158917786?nav=SEARCH and the KO? Wonder if it comes with cabling Quote Link to comment
jwegman Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Each of my P4000's are currently outfitted with (1) 8x3.5" HSBP drive cage (FUP8X35HSDK) and (1) 8x2.5" HSBP drive cage (FUP8X25HSDKO) (in the 2x5.25" bays). Intel FUP8X35HSDK 8x3.5 Hot-Swap Drive Cage Kit New http://www.ebay.com/itm/380990951500 Intel FUP8X25HSDKO Spare 8x2.5 Hot-Swap Drive Cage Kit for 5.25" Cage Area New http://www.ebay.com/itm/181522558516 Too bad OEMXS doesn't have any more of the FUP8X25HSDKO, they were $40 ea... Hell of a deal for an 8x2.5" HSBP drive cage... Great thanks. What is the difference between this http://m.ebay.com/itm/Intel-FUP8X25HSDKS-Spare-8x2-5-Hot-Swap-Drive-Cage-Kit-New-/201158917786?nav=SEARCH and the KO? Wonder if it comes with cabling What you linked to will only fit in the main storage bay; where you can fit two of the FUP8X25HSDKS drive cages (16x2.5") in place of the 8x3.5" drive cage. It will *not* fit in the top (2) 5.25" bays unlike FUP8X25HSDKO. Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Each of my P4000's are currently outfitted with (1) 8x3.5" HSBP drive cage (FUP8X35HSDK) and (1) 8x2.5" HSBP drive cage (FUP8X25HSDKO) (in the 2x5.25" bays). Intel FUP8X35HSDK 8x3.5 Hot-Swap Drive Cage Kit New http://www.ebay.com/itm/380990951500 Intel FUP8X25HSDKO Spare 8x2.5 Hot-Swap Drive Cage Kit for 5.25" Cage Area New http://www.ebay.com/itm/181522558516 Too bad OEMXS doesn't have any more of the FUP8X25HSDKO, they were $40 ea... Hell of a deal for an 8x2.5" HSBP drive cage... Great thanks. What is the difference between this http://m.ebay.com/itm/Intel-FUP8X25HSDKS-Spare-8x2-5-Hot-Swap-Drive-Cage-Kit-New-/201158917786?nav=SEARCH and the KO? Wonder if it comes with cabling What you linked to will only fit in the main storage bay; where you can fit two of the FUP8X25HSDKS drive cages (16x2.5") in place of the 8x3.5" drive cage. It will *not* fit in the top (2) 5.25" bays unlike FUP8X25HSDKO. Understood thanks. Will keep an eye out for the DKO. Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 One more dumb question. Is this the right cable to go from the Intel raid card to the back of the hotswap tray that came with the P4308? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-ASR2612SASCBL-Mini-SAS-Cable-Accessory-Kit-New-Bulk-Packaging-/381225145336?ssPageName=ADME:L:COSI:US:1123 Quote Link to comment
jwegman Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 One more dumb question. Is this the right cable to go from the Intel raid card to the back of the hotswap tray that came with the P4308? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-ASR2612SASCBL-Mini-SAS-Cable-Accessory-Kit-New-Bulk-Packaging-/381225145336?ssPageName=ADME:L:COSI:US:1123 That is the proper type of cable; miniSAS to miniSAS (SFF-8087 male to SFF-8087 male)... But I'm not sure of that specific cable's length... You'll want something close to .70-.75meters long. I'm using these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812117662 ...and these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291453546599 Quote Link to comment
tliptak Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 One more dumb question. Is this the right cable to go from the Intel raid card to the back of the hotswap tray that came with the P4308? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-ASR2612SASCBL-Mini-SAS-Cable-Accessory-Kit-New-Bulk-Packaging-/381225145336?ssPageName=ADME:L:COSI:US:1123 That is the proper type of cable; miniSAS to miniSAS (SFF-8087 male to SFF-8087 male)... But I'm not sure of that specific cable's length... You'll want something close to .70-.75meters long. I'm using these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812117662 ...and these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291453546599 Heard back from Kalley - the ones I linked are 95cm so they should work. Got 4 of them for $32 shipped ($5 / each + shipping) Quote Link to comment
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