Hi,

Purchased unmenu some time ago and had bubba raid running on it with an installer install-web or something like that.

 

I recently re-built my unraid box and am trying to get a couple things going on it, mainly unmenu and bubbaraid. I probably have old versions and after a couple hours searching through the forums, I cannot find any clear answers, so I did try to find answers before my post.

 

I have a clean install of unraid and the only change I have done is to telnet into it and ran this:

 

wget -O /tmp/unweb.tgz http://www.tcpatools.com/bubba/unraidweb-0.1.04-i386-bubba.tgz ;  installpkg /tmp/unweb.tgz

 

Now I have to run that every time in order to get bubbaraid up and running...

 

Probably something simular for unmenu, which I have not installed yet...

 

If there are better plugins then these 2 or newer versions, I have not found them in the forums...

 

All's I want to be able to do is run these with out the installer script above every time... in fact a large pie of my share would surfice along with drive temps...

 

I only use the unraid to backup a Windows Home Server about 1 to 4 times a month so it is turn it on, back up using ms sync-toy, turn off until next time.

 

It would be nice to turn it on and have these programs or any other that has been created just work without having to telnet in and run commands and I am sure there is a way to do this, but after searching throw a ton of very long threads I have not found the ones with the answers...

 

help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Tom

Hi,

Purchased unmenu some time ago

Huh?  Somebody sold unMENU to you?  I hope not.  It is free to download from here: http://code.google.com/p/unraid-unmenu/

 

You will need to put a few lines in your config/go script if you wish to not type when you reboot.

The exact line you put in your prior post can be appended to the end of you config/go script.  It will them be invoked when you reboot.

 

The unMENU post thread has instructions on where to download it, and how to install it.  If using unraid-web you don't need to even start up unMEN

U with "uu", as unraid-web will use its "lightty" web-server to provide the pages.  It will look for the unmENU files in a folder named "unmenu" on your flash drive.

 

Joe L.

I paid for unRaid Pro, not unmenu.

 

Anyways thanks for the link, I downloaded it and put it into a folder on my flash drive (unmenu), but cannot get it to run.

 

I think I will just buy a drobo because I really don't want to learn linux commands and there is no clear spot to get into on this here, searches result in hours of trying to find what your looking for, I know unraid works great and for tweakers and those who know linux or have an interest in it I know it is great, for those of us that do not want to learn linux and want a little more than the basic package you purchase, there are better soluitions... this is why I scrapped unraid a year ago. I just wish I would have remembered. Probably just ebay my unraid and be done with it.

i have used drobo and since moved to unraid. it is only as complicated as you make it. i have used unmenu and bubba, but for everyday use i just have the basic unraid web interface running. it tells me what i need to know (which drives are spun up, temps, space free, etc). i have very little linux knowledge, but unraid is still almost entry level. i will agree that the linux commands can become overwhelming, but that doesn't mean that unraid doesn't work wonderfully "right out of the box." if you are truly ready to give up pm me and let me know what you want for your system (i would like to know specs about the system, drive count, case, controllers, etc)

 

i hope you change your mind about switching because i think drobos, while user friendly, are over priced and not built for the expandability of unraid.

I paid for unRaid Pro, not unmenu.

 

Anyways thanks for the link, I downloaded it and put it into a folder on my flash drive (unmenu), but cannot get it to run.

Sorry to learn you could not get it to run.  The command to start it was probably more complicated than you prefer, but I'm not sure what you tried, since you gave up so quickly.

If you un-zipped the three zip files in an "unmenu" folder on your flash drive, then logging in at the system console, or via "telnet" and then typing

/boot/unmenu/uu

would start the unMENU server running.  Once it is running, you use your web-browser to access its screens by entering

http://tower:8080

as the url. 

 

The wiki entry describing it has lots of easy to follow links to information... Find it here: http://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php?title=UnRAID_Add_Ons#UnMENU 

 

On the other hand, since you seem to have possibly made up your mind, enjoy your next drobo box.  If it suits your needs, then you'll have your data safe somewhere.

I think I will just buy a drobo because I really don't want to learn linux commands and there is no clear spot to get into on this here, searches result in hours of trying to find what your looking for, I know unraid works great and for tweakers and those who know linux or have an interest in it I know it is great, for those of us that do not want to learn linux and want a little more than the basic package you purchase, there are better soluitions... this is why I scrapped unraid a year ago. I just wish I would have remembered. Probably just ebay my unraid and be done with it.

 

I went back and read all your prior posts, and from what I can see, people responded answering all of your questions.  If you are looking for a simple summary of total "X GB used, Y GB free" then post your request for that feature to lime-technology, perhaps they'll add it in a future version.  It does exist in unMENU, as I was able to add it long ago. 

 

Since you've never asked for any assistance in installing ANY of the add-on programs developed by us users of unRAID, we can only assume you were able to read and understand the instructions posted.    I know people constantly request help, and they are pointed in the right direction.  (those who ask for help are smart enough to admit they don't know-it-all  )

 

I know I constantly go back to older post to clarify them based on questions I'm asked, or feedback I get.  I know the wiki is constantly tweaked in the same way.  For you to simply state, there's too much for you to read in the forum, and your ability to find the answers with searches of your own is lacking, and you just want storage, but not to learn linux, then you are selling the unRAID forum, linux, and yourself short.

 

Since kingpin seems interested in your unRAID hardware, send him the e-bay link when you put it up for sale.

 

Joe L.

sheez, no need to be harse...

 

I am communicating with him on possibly selling my unraid box.

 

I did get unmenu to work back when I purchased unraid as well as bubbaraid, bubbaraid had an installer that made it easier, but that no longer works.

 

I also today did manage to get both working again. If I knew in unRaid 5 the feature of a simple pie chart would be added and many some additional stats I would gladly keep my unraid setup, it is not it's functionality per say that I am not happy with, it is having to learn something new, I do not have the time for that. Sure unraid "out of the box" is turn key but very basic and a couple small changes would make it better, or a good install script for the most popular add-ons that just run when the machine is booted.

 

Perhaps I am not the best at searching forums, I tried numerous searches and went through many pages before finding what I was looking for, this time I cut and paste the instructions so I will not have to do that again if I keep my unraid and ever have to re-build it, having to download bubbaraid everytime is a bit of a pain in the a** but at least it is working.

 

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you are saying and I was not trying to diss the community, nor the product. I was just saying not everyone looking at unraid wants to spend the time to get real deep into the community as far as plugins, linux, development and how it works... some of us just want to use the product and have it work and not care how or have to learn commands to get simple things accomplished... as I said I think unRaid is a great idea and functionally it works great from I can tell, implentation as far as user friendlyness and GUI could have been better, but it has "it" where it counts, it's just in my case I do not know if that makes up for the other stuff.

If you can see your tower(UnRaid) on your network, then simple to into the UnRaid Drive, open the 'config' folder and then edit the 'go' file in something like wordpad.

 

Add the line 'installpkg /tmp/unweb.tgz' at the bottom of the file.

Should look something like this:

#!/bin/bash

# Start the Management Utility

/usr/local/sbin/emhttp &

# Start unraidweb

installpkg /tmp/unweb.tgz

 

 

Save it and reboot.

 

Unraidweb will now automatically start every boot. Simple.

as I said I think unRaid is a great idea and functionally it works great from I can tell, implentation as far as user friendlyness and GUI could have been better, but it has "it" where it counts, it's just in my case I do not know if that makes up for the other stuff.

You'll get no argument from me about the supplied user-interface being lacking in features... That is EXACTLY why I started writing what eventually evolved into unMENU, as it was simply a way to explore possible improvements in the user-interface.

 

Lime-technology's developer sees the product from a different perspective than a non-linux savy user.  It is for that reason some simple (to you or me) features do not yet exist.  They've not made the top of the to-do list.

 

We've managed to convince Tom that the development of an API to the user-interface would help him and his product.  I can only hope it really evolves once version 5.0 is started.  At that point, it will get far more user-friendly, as the user-community here will not be shy about requesting user-interface improvements.  I'll be very happy once the 4.5-final is announced (possibly Monday?? if not other issues surface) and then we can go forward.

 

In fact, it was the initial thread here: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=2110.0 that started it all... and what do you know, the exact same request for a total amount of used and free space was requested and existed in my very first sample unMENU screen.  Many others besides yourself have said the interface needs improvement... it will get there... soon enough... check back in 6 months, or a year, or two... when/if the drobo does not do as much as you might need at that time.

 

Joe L.

Thanks for the honest banter. Another user posted a way to get unweb running automatically, I have inplemented his instructions and have to reboot in order to see if bubbaraid and unmenu will work.

 

In my opinion if unraid were to offer even a mildly improved UI and MUCH easier installs, especially for us mainly windows users it would take off.

ppp

I had a Drobo and the 4 drive limit was killing me because I went way past the "sweet spot" which I am sure you know what I mean, it is the point where you are forced to purchase the largest and most expensive drives on the market just so it could keep up with my space requirements, thus I purchased unRaid last year.

 

I still think functionally with the 20 drive mix and match it is the best option for backing up a windows home server which is what I use it for with the Microsoft Power Sync Toy, and it allows me to retire drives from the home server and add them to the unRaid box so both grow together which is the most cost effective way I can think of, but the UI really needs a re-work for us eye candy types...

 

Other things missing that would put unRaid over the top for me would be some windows tools like Drobo has as far as seeing space w/o web or telnet, perhaps a little pie or progress tray icon... a super home run would be to have unRaid have the ability to show the same way as a USB drive does to Windows, then my home server would recognize it as a potential home server back up.

 

Since I was able to get it going at least somewhat how I wanted it, I decided I am better off keeping what I have then buying the $1200 8 drive-less Drobo.

 

Again I like unRaid for what it does, I do not like neccesarily some of the side things, the docs are user friendly to Linux or Dos users, not to Windows Users. I am a developer by trade (c#, vb.net) and have been since VB 3.0 and I have a hard time with it and am probably the only person I know including many co-workers who would bother with it, certainly no normal windows user would even think about it, even though it is far better and cheaper than a drobo unit or just about any other NAS there is at the moment...

 

anyways...

 

If there is a way to have it show as NAS (ie: something my home server could recognize as a backup device), I would certainly like to know...

 

also great job with unmenu!

 

If there is a way to have it show as NAS (ie: something my home server could recognize as a backup device), I would certainly like to know...

 

also great job with unmenu!

 

 

If you want the unit to show as 'NAS', then change it's name from 'TOWER' on the Settings page of Unraid (Not unraidweb interface) to 'NAS' (for example).

I can't be sure, but you may not need to reboot.  I Highly recommend rebooting your computer to reset the DNS from TOWER to NAS, else you'll have to type in the IP Address into your Web Browser to get access again.

 

PS, I am by no means an Advanced user, but have done a LOT of reading before attempting to set up my first UnRaid system.  And I still ask questions.

I don't think simply naming it "NAS" will do what I was talking about.

 

What I was talking about is having my home server recognize it as a backup NAS device. If I plug an external USB drive into the home server or install a NAS unit with software on the home server, it recognizes that and will ask if you want to use it as a backup device. unRaids shares do not currently do this.

Any backup software which can backup to a network drive will be able to use unRAID for backup.

 

I backup to unRAID using:

- SyncBackPro from PCs

- rsync from Apple Macs

 

Any backup software which can backup to a network drive will be able to use unRAID for backup.

 

I backup to unRAID using:

- SyncBackPro from PCs

- rsync from Apple Macs

 

 

MS Free program SyncToy works as well, but it would be nice if the home server could recognize the unraid box as a backup because it will then do it natively.

 

 

 

Speaking of my usage scenario...

 

is there a way to write a script that would send a wake on lan to my unRaid Server, then launch an application like synctoy and one done shut down the unRaid server?

 

This would be awesome because I could just schedule the task and forget about it alltogether.

is there a way to write a script that would send a wake on lan to my unRaid Server, then launch an application like synctoy and one done shut down the unRaid server?

 

Yes, one way is to create a batch file (script) along the lines of:

WOL <unRAID box>

synctoy <...>

shutdown <unRAID box>

 

Then use Windows "Scheduled Tasks" to execute the batch file when needed.

 

There are a number of topics in the forums about WOL and shutting down the server remotely which will help with those aspects.

 

You should check if your MB's WOL works under Linux/unRAID before spending too much time on setting up the script.

is there a way to write a script that would send a wake on lan to my unRaid Server, then launch an application like synctoy and one done shut down the unRaid server?

 

Yes, one way is to create a batch file (script) along the lines of:

WOL <unRAID box>

synctoy <...>

shutdown <unRAID box>

 

Then use Windows "Scheduled Tasks" to execute the batch file when needed.

 

There are a number of topics in the forums about WOL and shutting down the server remotely which will help with those aspects.

 

You should check if your MB's WOL works under Linux/unRAID before spending too much time on setting up the script.

 

Started research already, I have a mainboard that does support Wake on Lan, I already tested this with some vb.net code. I think my preference will be to write the app in .net because I can make it report back things I want to know and have a WHS add on interface.

 

I have no clue about shut down though as far a linux and what I would have to send... that could be the deal breaker...

I have no clue about shut down though as far a linux and what I would have to send... that could be the deal breaker...

 

It can be done.  The following provides details on how to "Shutdown unRAID from shortcut" http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=812.0.  It may provide you with a starting point.

Well I decided to stick with unRaid.

 

I wrote a Windows Home Server Add-on that let's me do what I want...

 

It lets me schedule what I want using the Home Server Counsel and easily change it.

 

It powers on my unraid server, performs a sync and then powers off the unraid server.

 

Does not get much easier, set it and forget it...