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Green Drives & LCC Issues

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I have 11 Western Digital Green drives in my system. I've used the wdidle3.exe program to disable the power saving features because it drastically increasing LCC count (About 1000/day). This is a common issue, and a common solution to the problem (according to google results...) Everything was fine for a week, no more LCC increases. Then today after a parity check I find 4 drives out of the 10 have drastically skyrocketed. All these drives were <3,000 LCCs before the parity check. The other 6 drives are fine and did not increase.

 

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   185   185   000    Old_age   Always       -       46413

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   176   176   000    Old_age   Always       -       72607

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   177   177   000    Old_age   Always       -       71522

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   184   184   000    Old_age   Always       -       49245

 

What the heck could cause this? The drives are rated for 300k LCCs and i've had them for less than a month! At this rate they will be dead in less than 5 months.

I have 3 WD 2TB EAD Green drives and don't seem to be experiencing this issue. I'll check further into it once I'm back home.

I have 11 Western Digital Green drives in my system. I've used the wdidle3.exe program to disable the power saving features because it drastically increasing LCC count (About 1000/day). This is a common issue, and a common solution to the problem (according to google results...) Everything was fine for a week, no more LCC increases. Then today after a parity check I find 4 drives out of the 10 have drastically skyrocketed. All these drives were <3,000 LCCs before the parity check. The other 6 drives are fine and did not increase.

 

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   185   185   000    Old_age   Always       -       46413

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   176   176   000    Old_age   Always       -       72607

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   177   177   000    Old_age   Always       -       71522

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   184   184   000    Old_age   Always       -       49245

 

What the heck could cause this? The drives are rated for 300k LCCs and i've had them for less than a month! At this rate they will be dead in less than 5 months.

What do you have the drive spin-down timer set to?  This would possibly be something to look at.

I think LLC is the heads being parked.  There's a different counter for spinning down, maybe Start_Stop_Count?

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I have 11 Western Digital Green drives in my system. I've used the wdidle3.exe program to disable the power saving features because it drastically increasing LCC count (About 1000/day). This is a common issue, and a common solution to the problem (according to google results...) Everything was fine for a week, no more LCC increases. Then today after a parity check I find 4 drives out of the 10 have drastically skyrocketed. All these drives were <3,000 LCCs before the parity check. The other 6 drives are fine and did not increase.

 

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   185   185   000    Old_age   Always       -       46413

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   176   176   000    Old_age   Always       -       72607

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   177   177   000    Old_age   Always       -       71522

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   184   184   000    Old_age   Always       -       49245

 

What the heck could cause this? The drives are rated for 300k LCCs and i've had them for less than a month! At this rate they will be dead in less than 5 months.

What do you have the drive spin-down timer set to?  This would possibly be something to look at.

 

1 hour, the default.

 

I just re-ran another parity check to see if it would happen again. They only increased in 1 LCC, which is normal. This seems like something Tom should look at. This may have lowered the life of my drives, or perhaps something bugged out SMART.

Just checked my WD10EACS and they all have around 30k LLC in 10000 hours :-

 

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   086   086   000    Old_age   Always       -       10346
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       119
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   192   192   000    Old_age   Always       -       26918

 

 

Here's what my always on server with 15 minute idle spindown time shows on it's 2TB WD EADS:

 

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       5417
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       43
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       466

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       5413
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       57
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       634

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       5314
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       36
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       353

 

For comparison purposes, here's the system/cache drive 1TB WD FALS:

 

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   094   094   000    Old_age   Always       -       4940
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       44
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       50

 

Hmm, the drive I posted about yesterday went up 2500 LLC's in 24 hours..... just rebooted the box so no logs unfortunatly.    Have killed all of my addons for now to see if they stop it rising.  (cache_dirs, unraid_notify, SABNZBD)

Did you figure out your issue?

 

Other than the fact they stopped after a reboot... no

  • 1 month later...

About one month later and here's my current stats, with old numbers in (). All firmware revisions are 01.00A01.

 

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   092   092   000    Old_age   Always       -       6306 (5417)
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       46 (43)
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       536 (466)

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       6321 (5413)
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       60 (57)
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       709 (634)

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       6222 (5314)
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       39 (36)
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       411 (353)

 

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