RobJ Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Questions r.e. the SMART details shown when running a SMART Status Report on the UnMenu Disk Management page ... (1) Is there a good overview of what the various values actually mean? I can find plenty of descriptions of the generic meaning of any specific attribute (e.g. "Raw_Read_Error_Rate") ... but nothing that really says what the Value/Worst/Threshold columns mean of what values are acceptable in these columns. I presume the "Raw Value" column is the current value -- right? For example, for this specific parameter, one of my drives shows 200-001-051 in the 3 columns, and a raw value of 0. (2) What does "In_the-past" means in the "When Failed" column? Does this mean the drive has previously failed a SMART test, but now passes?? I just ran SMART Status reports on all my drives, and this one drive has this value (all the others are all clear in the "When Failed" column). All of my drives show "SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED" ... but this one drive has the strange "In_the-past" comment. Just curious what that might mean. FWIW I've attached a PDF showing the SMART data for the drive with the strange comment. That is extraordinarily unusual, can you attach the full SMART report, no need to PDF it. Currently, the VALUE is perfect, and the entire table of attributes looks near perfect, especially for a drive with 20000 hours. But at some time in the past, something went terribly wrong, and the Raw_Read_Error_Rate temporarily bottomed out. Nothing else did, including the Seek_Error_Rate, so it would appear to be a brief software anomaly, a flu that it got over. (1) Is there a good overview of what the various values actually mean? I can find plenty of descriptions of the generic meaning of any specific attribute (e.g. "Raw_Read_Error_Rate") ... but nothing that really says what the Value/Worst/Threshold columns mean of what values are acceptable in these columns. That is exactly what I have long wanted to create a wiki page for, but it's still one of my many barely started but unfinished projects. Sorry, I especially felt it could help lessen the support load on Joe. Quote Link to comment
wildchild22 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Hi there my unraid does not have a pass on root. I have installed the image server but my neotv 550 media stream still says I need to log on to access the location. I put unmenu on both my servers today and this issue came up since then. As I watched some stuff from both servers yesterday without issue. When viewing file folder and so forth in windows it functions fine. So I am unsure what has changed any ideas? I can enter whatever I like for username with no pass but it needs to be done everytime where as before it never. I can tell the neotv that the username is a or b c etc guest whatever and it opens the folder where as before it just opened the folder without asking for username and pass. The only thing changed is unmenu. Hi All I installed unMenu on both my servers. Now my media servers I need to enter guest as a username for my media streamer where before I didnt have to enter anything. My unraid server is running the latest beta and the USERS under the original unraid menu has just root listed as an account. How can I make it so everything do not need any user name or pass? You probably have a password on the "root" account. this has nothing directly with unMENU, but unRAID itself. the work-around for unMENU is to install the image-server package. For unRAID you cannot use"root" for remote access on current releases. you must connect as a different user or set the security to the correct mode. Quote Link to comment
JimmyJoe Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I am running unMENU 1.5 on unRAID 5.0-rc11. Thanks for the GREAT tool! I recently upgraded my cache drive to a 4TB Seagate drive and every time I go to MyMain and then Inventory I see the following warning in my syslog: Feb 16 22:43:50 voyager unmenu[4063]: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdm'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. (Minor Issues) /dev/sdm is my 4TB cache drive. Should I be concerned about this warning or can this be ignored? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Harpz Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Take a look at a post I made asking the very same http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=25867.msg225376#msg225376 Nothing to with about Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 I am running unMENU 1.5 on unRAID 5.0-rc11. Thanks for the GREAT tool! I recently upgraded my cache drive to a 4TB Seagate drive and every time I go to MyMain and then Inventory I see the following warning in my syslog: Feb 16 22:43:50 voyager unmenu[4063]: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdm'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. (Minor Issues) /dev/sdm is my 4TB cache drive. Should I be concerned about this warning or can this be ignored? Thanks! You can ignore the waning. It is expected on any drive over 2.2TB. The "fdisk" command is being used to read the first block on the disk, but not to partition it, so you are fine. If it did not detect a GPT partition there would be a problem... Quote Link to comment
JimmyJoe Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Cool, thanks! Not sure how I missed that, I did search before I posted. Must just be tired. Quote Link to comment
zoggy Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 latest unmenu with a fresh install, if you go to the System Info > PCI Devices page, you get the message: The command '/sbin/lspci ' was not found on your system. You may need to install it. PCI Utilities can be installed from the unMENU Package Manager. The link to the package manger is incorrect. It takes you to "package_manager" rather than "pkg_manager" Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 latest unmenu with a fresh install, if you go to the System Info > PCI Devices page, you get the message: The command '/sbin/lspci ' was not found on your system. You may need to install it. PCI Utilities can be installed from the unMENU Package Manager. The link to the package manger is incorrect. It takes you to "package_manager" rather than "pkg_manager" Well, that was its original name... I guess it is not smart enough to do what you want, instead of what I originally coded. I'll fix it the next time I'm working with the code. Thanks for the bug report. Joe L. Quote Link to comment
JimmyJoe Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 So I just swapped out a bunch of hardware and now my temps for my drives no longer display in MyMain but the temps display fine in unraid Main. Running 5.0-rc11 with unmenu 1.5 rev 246. Syslog is clean. Parity check speed is good. Any ideas? Thanks! smartctl -a /dev/sd? does report temps: root@voyagerold:~# for drive in `ls -alF /dev/sd?`; do echo $drive |grep dev; smartctl -a $drive |grep Temp; done /dev/sda 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 116 109 000 Old_age Always - 34 /dev/sdb 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 116 109 000 Old_age Always - 34 /dev/sdc 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 066 059 045 Old_age Always - 34 (Lifetime Min/Max 34/34) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 034 041 000 Old_age Always - 34 (0 11 0 0) /dev/sdd 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 117 108 000 Old_age Always - 33 /dev/sde 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 112 107 000 Old_age Always - 38 /dev/sdf 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 157 157 000 Old_age Always - 38 (Lifetime Min/Max 13/43) plugdev /dev/sdg Temperature Warning Disabled or Not Supported /dev/sdh 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 114 109 000 Old_age Always - 36 /dev/sdi 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 064 060 045 Old_age Always - 36 (Lifetime Min/Max 34/36) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 036 040 000 Old_age Always - 36 (0 9 0 0) /dev/sdj 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 068 058 000 Old_age Always - 32 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 142 112 000 Old_age Always - 32 /dev/sdk 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 071 061 000 Old_age Always - 29 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 151 121 000 Old_age Always - 29 /dev/sdl 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 068 062 000 Old_age Always - 32 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 142 124 000 Old_age Always - 32 /dev/sdm 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 114 108 000 Old_age Always - 36 root@voyagerold:~# Old Hardware: Motherboard - SuperMicro C2SEA - 6 sata ports CPU - Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5200 Processor, 2.5 GHz, 2M L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB, LGA775 Power Supply - CORSAIR 750w TX Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply Memory - CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 TW3X4G1333C9 Controller - Qty 2 - Adaptec 1430SA PCIe x4 - 8 ports (4 each) Controller - Qty 1 - SD-SA2PEX-2IR PCIe x1 - 2 ports (Sil3132 chipset) Controller - Qty 1 - LSI PCI SATA MegaRAID 150-6 Kit - 6 ports New Hardware: Motherboard: Supermicro X9SCM-IIF-O bios 2.0a CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 Sandy Bridge Power Supply: CORSAIR HX750 Memory: 32GB - 4x Super Talent DDR3-1333 8GB ECC Micron Controller: 2x IBM M1015 w/P15 IT Mode (used for unRAID) Controller: 1x IBM M1015 w/P15 IR Mode (installed but unused, future use for ESXi) Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Your newer disk controller may not need the "-d ata" options when queried. In myMain, for each of the disks you can set an additional parameter of "smartopt" with a value of "-A" Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Your newer disk controller may not need the "-d ata" options when queried. In myMain, for each of the disks you can set an additional parameter of "smartopt" with a value of "-A" Click on the disk identifier, then fill in the additional parameter, save it, and see if it helps. Quote Link to comment
JimmyJoe Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Your newer disk controller may not need the "-d ata" options when queried. In myMain, for each of the disks you can set an additional parameter of "smartopt" with a value of "-A" That worked, thanks! Quote Link to comment
Aigolf Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Your newer disk controller may not need the "-d ata" options when queried. In myMain, for each of the disks you can set an additional parameter of "smartopt" with a value of "-A" thanks joe! since i changed to m1015 controllers unmenue refused to display disk temps. adding this parameter solved the "problem"... Quote Link to comment
JimmyJoe Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Problem Solved - see Updates below. I am having a hard time getting ssmtp to work and could use some help. I was previously using unraid_notify and had no problem sending email but want to try the email packages that are part of unmenu. This is on a test system. To troubleshoot the problem and remove any variables from my old installation I did a fresh install. 1. Format USB stick 2. Install 5.0rc11 and make bootable 3. Install unmenu 1.5 Revision: 246 4. Use unmenu Pkg Manager to install gcc-4.2.4-i486-1.tgz 5. Use unmenu Pkg Manager to install ssmtp_2.64.orig.tar.bz2 Before setting config I tried to use ssmtp, knowing it wouldn't work: root@Tower:/boot/unmenu# echo -e "Subject: a test\n\nThis is the email body." | ssmtp -d root ssmtp: Cannot open your_host:0 I then set the config and hit "Re-Install Now with Edited Variables" and tried again: root@Tower:/boot/unmenu# echo -e "Subject: a test\n\nThis is the email body." | ssmtp -d root ssmtp: Connection lost in middle of processing After 10 minutes I get the message: "ssmtp: Connection lost in middle of processing". I assume it is timing out. root@Tower:/boot/unmenu# which ssmtp /usr/sbin/ssmtp root@Tower:/boot/unmenu# ssmtp -? ssmtp: No recipients supplied - mail will not be sent root@Tower:/boot/unmenu# ssmtp -V sSMTP 2.64 (Not sendmail at all) root@Tower:/boot/unmenu# net lookup smtp.gmail.com 173.194.79.108 Syslog entries: Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Set Root="your_id@your_email_host.com" Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Set MailHub="your_host" Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Set RemotePort="0" Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Set HostName="localhost" Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Set UseSTARTTLS="False" Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Set AuthUser="your_id@your_email_host.com" Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Set AuthPass="your_password" Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Set FromLineOverride="True" Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Unable to locate your_host Mar 7 07:55:08 Tower sSMTP[9968]: Cannot open your_host:0 Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Set Root="[email protected]" Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Set MailHub="smtp.gmail.com" Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Set RemotePort="465" Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Set HostName="[email protected]" Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Set UseSTARTTLS="True" Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Set AuthUser="myemail" Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Set AuthPass="mypassword" Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Set FromLineOverride="True" Mar 7 07:55:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Creating SSL connection to host Mar 7 08:05:35 Tower sSMTP[10209]: Connection lost in middle of processing My problem looks very similar to the one posted here: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=5568.msg61670#msg61670 Any ideas? Update 1: OK, I must be doing something stupid with my gmail account setup. I tried it with another email (not gmail) and it worked fine. Do I have something set incorrectly to use gmail? Thanks! Update 2: Yup, I was doing something stupid I guess. unraid_notify works for me with port 465, ssmtp doesn't. I had to change it to port 587 and now it works fine with gmail. Hopefully this post will help someone else that may have the same problem as me. Quote Link to comment
zoggy Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Looking at myMain [smart] view, it is not showing all my drives... they are all there but i have to change the sort order to get to them. is there a way to tweak it so i see all the drives? Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 Looking at myMain [smart] view, it is not showing all my drives... they are all there but i have to change the sort order to get to them. is there a way to tweak it so i see all the drives? no idea... you've given no detail and you are the first to report such an issue. A screen shot might help, along with an attached syslog. Joe L. Quote Link to comment
zoggy Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Looking at myMain [smart] view, it is not showing all my drives... they are all there but i have to change the sort order to get to them. is there a way to tweak it so i see all the drives? no idea... you've given no detail and you are the first to report such an issue. A screen shot might help, along with an attached syslog. Joe L. attached default view and the smart view. notice smart view is leaving off disk14. (if i change the sort order it will show it), also attached syslog (had to zip due to filesize restrictions on forum). using unraid rc12a and latest unmenu. syslog-2013-03-30.zip Quote Link to comment
opentoe Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 When I visit the download page that is on the first page it only has version 1.3 there. The thread title says 1.5. Where is the 1.5 version to download? Thanks. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 When I visit the download page that is on the first page it only has version 1.3 there. The thread title says 1.5. Where is the 1.5 version to download? Thanks. It is version 1.3 of the install utility. It will download the most current 1.5 version of unMENU. I updated the text on the google.code page to make it more clear. Quote Link to comment
zoggy Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I noticed that everytime I reboot my unraid box unmenu always has a few updates it can do, one is hdparm one.. If i have it do the unmenu update from the user scripts it says it installs.. reboot its back to needing that update. noticed that there are these in my packages folder: hdparm-9.27-unmenu-package.conf hdparm-9.37-unmenu-package-1.conf while the package manager page still shows the old 9.27 hdparm. if I do 'hdparm -V' it says that i already have 9.37 installed. side note, I thought unmenu d/led packages for it to install on startup.. I didn't realize that some packages d/l stuff when it installs.. as yesterday on unraid startup it went to install the perl package and it hung on trying to retrieve from span some file.. was stuck at 25% and the timer just kept increasing. i couldn't exit out of the thing, no matter what keyboard combindation i tried. eventually just had to hit the power button and cycle the server.. that startup the package installed just fine as it's done many times before. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 I noticed that everytime I reboot my unraid box unmenu always has a few updates it can do, one is hdparm one.. If i have it do the unmenu update from the user scripts it says it installs.. reboot its back to needing that update. noticed that there are these in my packages folder: hdparm-9.27-unmenu-package.conf hdparm-9.37-unmenu-package-1.conf while the package manager page still shows the old 9.27 hdparm. if I do 'hdparm -V' it says that i already have 9.37 installed. side note, I thought unmenu d/led packages for it to install on startup.. I didn't realize that some packages d/l stuff when it installs.. as yesterday on unraid startup it went to install the perl package and it hung on trying to retrieve from span some file.. was stuck at 25% and the timer just kept increasing. i couldn't exit out of the thing, no matter what keyboard combindation i tried. eventually just had to hit the power button and cycle the server.. that startup the package installed just fine as it's done many times before. Don't install hdparm at all. Unless you have a need for a different version, use the one supplied by unRAID. You need to realize that unMENU has included packages for years now, and that at one time they might be newer than the one supplied by the stock unRAID, but sooner or later, they are not the newest, and in fact eventually might be older than what is in unRAID itself. Currently, unRAID ships with version 9.37 of hdparm. There is no need to install ANY version from unMENU. Yes, the PERL package does download additional modules when it installs. It runs: PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT=1 perl -MCPAN -e 'install MP3::Tag' You can examine any unMENU install package file to see what it will do on installation using the view/edit link in unMENU. Quote Link to comment
opentoe Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 When I visit the download page that is on the first page it only has version 1.3 there. The thread title says 1.5. Where is the 1.5 version to download? Thanks. It is version 1.3 of the install utility. It will download the most current 1.5 version of unMENU. I updated the text on the google.code page to make it more clear. Ahh, ok. I got it now. Thanks for clearing that up. Once installed, is there an uninstaller or how is the best way to uninstall it? Unmenu indicates my 4TB drive as HPA. Thanks Quote Link to comment
zoggy Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I noticed that everytime I reboot my unraid box unmenu always has a few updates it can do, one is hdparm one.. If i have it do the unmenu update from the user scripts it says it installs.. reboot its back to needing that update. noticed that there are these in my packages folder: hdparm-9.27-unmenu-package.conf hdparm-9.37-unmenu-package-1.conf while the package manager page still shows the old 9.27 hdparm. if I do 'hdparm -V' it says that i already have 9.37 installed. side note, I thought unmenu d/led packages for it to install on startup.. I didn't realize that some packages d/l stuff when it installs.. as yesterday on unraid startup it went to install the perl package and it hung on trying to retrieve from span some file.. was stuck at 25% and the timer just kept increasing. i couldn't exit out of the thing, no matter what keyboard combindation i tried. eventually just had to hit the power button and cycle the server.. that startup the package installed just fine as it's done many times before. Don't install hdparm at all. Unless you have a need for a different version, use the one supplied by unRAID. You need to realize that unMENU has included packages for years now, and that at one time they might be newer than the one supplied by the stock unRAID, but sooner or later, they are not the newest, and in fact eventually might be older than what is in unRAID itself. Currently, unRAID ships with version 9.37 of hdparm. There is no need to install ANY version from unMENU. Yes, the PERL package does download additional modules when it installs. It runs: PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT=1 perl -MCPAN -e 'install MP3::Tag' You can examine any unMENU install package file to see what it will do on installation using the view/edit link in unMENU. yes, I did not install hdparm as I know it comes pre-installed. I was just reporting the fact unmenu always wants to upgrade its 9.27 version to 9.37 package reference on each startup. It's like the unmenu doesnt really take. I've tried a fresh install and it has the same problem. Always shows me a thing about local_myMain and hdparm. is there an unmenu irc channel? about that perl package, is there a way to just d/l that package locally to save it from d/ling on each reboot / possibly hang on downloading and messing unraid from starting up update: fresh boot back on rc12a, ran unmenu -> user scripts - > check for unmenu updates resulted in: Available files on current release list: hdparm-9.37-unmenu-package-1.conf :Revision: 252 Date: 2012-05-09 08:13:45 -0400 (Wed, 09 May 2012) myMain_local.conf :Revision: 182 Date: 2010-12-04 08:15:52 -0500 (Sat, 04 Dec 2010) Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 To un-install, just remove the /boot/unmenu directory and delete the line it adds to the end of the /boot/config/go file to find and invoke the *.auto_install files. The 4TB size is not known by unMENU (You can just ignore the warning, or, see this post on how to mark the size as valid See here: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=26490.msg231904;topicseen#msg231904 ) Quote Link to comment
zoggy Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 If I wanted to update a package that is part of unmenu, is there any advised way to do so? Also, if someone wanted to contribute to unmenu is there a documented proper way? Taking a quick look at PERL, whats currently installed via unmenu: 08-Sep-2008 01:14 16M - http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/slackware/d/perl-5.10.0-i486-1.tgz looking at whats newer, the next upgrade would be: 02-Oct-2009 13:31 13M - http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware/d/perl-5.10.1-i486-1.txz which is 3 megs smaller.. but notice its in txz not tgz format. I've not seen txz before, so looking it up: *NOTE: Slackware packages typically end with file extensions .tgz and .txz(txz starting version 13) for installation with installpkg tool. *NOTE: The only difference with the tgz from the txz, is the compression used, the tgz is just a typically tarball compressed with gz while the txz is a tarball that uses LZMA compression, which greatly compresses the file size of the txz compared to the tgz. so now brings up another question, so does unraid tar support txz? or is this one of the main reasons most of the packages are a bit out of date (I understand the whole concept of why upgrade if its working.. but to save 3megs on each startup for this package I would think would be enticing for most -- at the expense of a few extra cpu cycles to extract a slightly advanced compression format) then, if txz is supported.. why not just jump to the latest stable (the current trunk only does x64 it appears, perl-5.16.3-x86_64-1.txz), 20-Aug-2012 12:44 13M - http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-14.0/slackware/d/perl-5.16.1-i486-1.txz so looking at perl 5.10.0 vs 5.16.1, there have been a bit of changes and it might be more trouble than its worth to really validate nothing will break.. but in case someone knows perl and wanted to glance.. here are the changelog migration for the major releases, 5.16.0 -> 5.16.1 - http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5161delta.html 5.14.0 -> 5.16.0 - http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5160delta.html 5.12.0 -> 5.14.0 - http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5140delta.html 5.10.0 -> 5.12.0 - http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5120delta.html -- just posted this info in the PERL specific unmenu package thread :: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=2999.0 Quote Link to comment
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