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Prostuff1 is incorrect.  You can unzip everything to the unmenu folder.  When you first invoke the package-manager, it will move the  package.conf files from /boot/unmenu to the /boot/packages folder for you.  It will even create the folder /boot/packages if it does not exist.   

 

Now, to be kind, his method will work too, but the extra step he mentioned is not needed.  You don't need to create /boot/packages, and you do not need to manually move those files to that folder.

 

That is niffty, I did not realize that it would create and move the .conf files to /boot/packages.  I manually created and placed there all my .conf files, of course I have been using the packages folder for more than just the unmenu packages.

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In a future iteration of the package management (perhaps under v5), would it be helpful to specify a unique file extension for the package files?

In a future iteration of the package management (perhaps under v5), would it be helpful to specify a unique file extension for the package files?

The fact that they are all named

whatever-unmenu-package.conf

is a huge clue.

 

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OK, I'll have to try everything as soon as I can

Thanks to everybody for all the tips and explanation...

I have a question though: the reason of a "big" server is to centralize my digital pictures, and also create a juke box for all my movies (divx and dvd rip - iso) and stream them with my devices such as PS3, WD TV Live or NMT ICY Box

But it appears that streaming with the PS3 is complicated, and WD TV live is not 100% sure!!!

Does that mean unRaid Server is almost dedicated for HTPC?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

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Does it make sense to use a PATA disk for cache (~160Gb), while parity and data disks will be SATA?

unRAID is not dedicated to serve media to HTPCs, but that is the most common use of it.  Since I have neither a PS3 nor a WDTV, I can't really comment there.  However, if others have gotten them working, I'm sure you can too.

 

Yes, you can use a PATA disk for your cache drive.  It may be a bit slower than if you used a SATA drive, but it should still be faster than copying directly to the parity-protected array.

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Wow...I'm impressed with your knowledge about Unraid and Linux in general

Looks like I have a lot to do tonight

I'll try to install unMenu tonight and I'll let you know

1 question: If I need more SATA ports, what kind of SATA controller should I buy (I want to keep it cheap though)

I know I have 1 x PCI-e slot available on my mobo, and also 2 x PCI (But I've read that PCI-e is much better because faster)

Can I use the 4 SATA ports on my mother board AND the additonal SATA ports from this controller card?

So I have to download the 2 files, unzip them and save them on my flash drive into /boot/unmenu from my Windos XP laptop, right?

Then, on the Unraid server, after I logged in, I type the command: cd/boot/unmenu

Is that correct?

From your laptop //tower/flash IS /boot.  you meed make a unmenu directory, unzip the ONE TWO zip files there (as soon as I zip up everything into on zip file) (One zip file was too big to attach, I had to make it two zip files)

Then, log in via telnet or on the system console

type

cd  /boot/unmenu

(note the space between the "d" and the "/"  MS-DOS let you omit it, linux does not)

then type

./uu

 

OR...

just give the full path to where you unzipped it and don't bother cd'ing there first by typing:

/boot/unmenu/uu

 

Then, in your browser, type the url

//tower:8080

 

Prostuff1 is incorrect.  You can unzip everything to the unmenu folder.  When you first invoke the package-manager, it will move the  package.conf files from /boot/unmenu to the /boot/packages folder for you.  It will even create the folder /boot/packages if it does not exist.  

 

Now, to be kind, his method will almost work, but the extra step he mentioned is not needed.  You don't need to create /boot/packages, and you do not need to manually move those package.conf files to that folder.  

 

The bigger problem with his instructions are that there are several .conf files that must stay in the /boot/unmenu folder.   They are not for the package manager, but for the unmenu.awk application itself. He did not make it clear which files go where.  As I said, put them ALL in the unmenu folder, let it put them in their correct locations for you.

 

 

How do I create the unmenu directory once I've typed in //tower/flash IS/boot?

And will this mod be permnanent (the UnMenu will it available at each reboot of the server?)

And when you say "telnet", can I use Putty?

 

Thanks

In a future iteration of the package management (perhaps under v5), would it be helpful to specify a unique file extension for the package files?

The fact that they are all named

whatever-unmenu-package.conf

is a huge clue.

 

True, true, I completely forgot that.

 

I suppose it's my DOS and Windows background that always thinks in terms of unique file extensions for each file type.  Linux does not seem to have the same concept.

Wow...I'm impressed with your knowledge about Unraid and Linux in general

Looks like I have a lot to do tonight

I'll try to install unMenu tonight and I'll let you know

1 question: If I need more SATA ports, what kind of SATA controller should I buy (I want to keep it cheap though)

I know I have 1 x PCI-e slot available on my mobo, and also 2 x PCI (But I've read that PCI-e is much better because faster)

Can I use the 4 SATA ports on my mother board AND the additonal SATA ports from this controller card?

So I have to download the 2 files, unzip them and save them on my flash drive into /boot/unmenu from my Windos XP laptop, right?

Then, on the Unraid server, after I logged in, I type the command: cd/boot/unmenu

Is that correct?

From your laptop //tower/flash IS /boot.  you meed make a unmenu directory, unzip the ONE TWO zip files there (as soon as I zip up everything into on zip file) (One zip file was too big to attach, I had to make it two zip files)

Then, log in via telnet or on the system console

type

cd  /boot/unmenu

(note the space between the "d" and the "/"  MS-DOS let you omit it, linux does not)

then type

./uu

 

OR...

just give the full path to where you unzipped it and don't bother cd'ing there first by typing:

/boot/unmenu/uu

 

Then, in your browser, type the url

//tower:8080

 

Prostuff1 is incorrect.  You can unzip everything to the unmenu folder.  When you first invoke the package-manager, it will move the  package.conf files from /boot/unmenu to the /boot/packages folder for you.  It will even create the folder /boot/packages if it does not exist.  

 

Now, to be kind, his method will almost work, but the extra step he mentioned is not needed.  You don't need to create /boot/packages, and you do not need to manually move those package.conf files to that folder.  

 

The bigger problem with his instructions are that there are several .conf files that must stay in the /boot/unmenu folder.   They are not for the package manager, but for the unmenu.awk application itself. He did not make it clear which files go where.  As I said, put them ALL in the unmenu folder, let it put them in their correct locations for you.

 

 

How do I create the unmenu directory once I've typed in //tower/flash IS/boot?

And will this mod be permnanent (the UnMenu will it available at each reboot of the server?)

And when you say "telnet", can I use Putty?

 

Thanks

If you are using windows file-explorer and type //tower/flash

you will see the contents of the flash drive.   It, in linux is mounted at /boot

therefore, if you log in using telnet, or putty, or on the system console, you'll find the contents of the flash drive viewable by typing

ls -l /boot

 

To create a directory there simply type

mkdir /boot/unmenu

 

(or, from in windows explorer, create a new folder named "unmenu" under //tower/flash )

//tower/flash/unmenu  in windows explorer is the exact same folder as /boot/unmenu when logged in via the console, or via telnet or putty.

 

To get unmenu to start itself each time you reboot you'll need to add a line to the end of /boot/config/go file.

 

That line would be

/boot/unmenu/uu

 

If that line is not present, (or to try it before rebooting) you'll be able to start it yourself by typing

/boot/unmenu/uu

on the linux command line.

 

 

 

 

In a future iteration of the package management (perhaps under v5), would it be helpful to specify a unique file extension for the package files?

The fact that they are all named

whatever-unmenu-package.conf

is a huge clue.

 

True, true, I completely forgot that.

 

I suppose it's my DOS and Windows background that always thinks in terms of unique file extensions for each file type.  Linux does not seem to have the same concept.

Linux has never had any need for any "extensions" on file names.  Initially there was a 14 character limit on the length of the names, but that was a very long time ago on much older file-systems.  The only two characters that cannot be used in a linux file name are the forward slash "/" (because it is used to delimit directories) and the "null" character (ascii/hex/decimal 0) because it is (or at least was) used to terminate the ends of the strings of the names of the files in the file-system.

 

Convention led to some suffixes being commonly adopted.  (to keep the MS-Dos types happy)

 

In any case, there is no problem identifying all the unmenu packages.

ls -l /boot/packages/*unmenu-package.conf

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Wow...I'm impressed with your knowledge about Unraid and Linux in general

Looks like I have a lot to do tonight

I'll try to install unMenu tonight and I'll let you know

1 question: If I need more SATA ports, what kind of SATA controller should I buy (I want to keep it cheap though)

I know I have 1 x PCI-e slot available on my mobo, and also 2 x PCI (But I've read that PCI-e is much better because faster)

Can I use the 4 SATA ports on my mother board AND the additonal SATA ports from this controller card?

So I have to download the 2 files, unzip them and save them on my flash drive into /boot/unmenu from my Windos XP laptop, right?

Then, on the Unraid server, after I logged in, I type the command: cd/boot/unmenu

Is that correct?

From your laptop //tower/flash IS /boot.  you meed make a unmenu directory, unzip the ONE TWO zip files there (as soon as I zip up everything into on zip file) (One zip file was too big to attach, I had to make it two zip files)

Then, log in via telnet or on the system console

type

cd  /boot/unmenu

(note the space between the "d" and the "/"  MS-DOS let you omit it, linux does not)

then type

./uu

 

OR...

just give the full path to where you unzipped it and don't bother cd'ing there first by typing:

/boot/unmenu/uu

 

Then, in your browser, type the url

//tower:8080

 

Prostuff1 is incorrect.  You can unzip everything to the unmenu folder.  When you first invoke the package-manager, it will move the  package.conf files from /boot/unmenu to the /boot/packages folder for you.  It will even create the folder /boot/packages if it does not exist.  

 

Now, to be kind, his method will almost work, but the extra step he mentioned is not needed.  You don't need to create /boot/packages, and you do not need to manually move those package.conf files to that folder.  

 

The bigger problem with his instructions are that there are several .conf files that must stay in the /boot/unmenu folder.   They are not for the package manager, but for the unmenu.awk application itself. He did not make it clear which files go where.  As I said, put them ALL in the unmenu folder, let it put them in their correct locations for you.

 

 

How do I create the unmenu directory once I've typed in //tower/flash IS/boot?

And will this mod be permnanent (the UnMenu will it available at each reboot of the server?)

And when you say "telnet", can I use Putty?

 

Thanks

If you are using windows file-explorer and type //tower/flash

you will see the contents of the flash drive.   It, in linux is mounted at /boot

therefore, if you log in using telnet, or putty, or on the system console, you'll find the contents of the flash drive viewable by typing

ls -l /boot

 

To create a directory there simply type

mkdir /boot/unmenu

 

(or, from in windows explorer, create a new folder named "unmenu" under //tower/flash )

//tower/flash/unmenu  in windows explorer is the exact same folder as /boot/unmenu when logged in via the console, or via telnet or putty.

 

To get unmenu to start itself each time you reboot you'll need to add a line to the end of /boot/config/go file.

 

That line would be

/boot/unmenu/uu

 

If that line is not present, (or to try it before rebooting) you'll be able to start it yourself by typing

/boot/unmenu/uu

on the linux command line.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Joe

I don't know what I will do without your help

I'll keep you posted

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To modify the go file and add the line /boot/unmenu/uu, what kind of editor should I use?

Can i do it within notepad, or should I use a specfic editor?

Thanks

To modify the go file and add the line /boot/unmenu/uu, what kind of editor should I use?

Can i do it within notepad, or should I use a specfic editor?

For the 'go' file it doesn't matter.

 

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To modify the go file and add the line /boot/unmenu/uu, what kind of editor should I use?

Can i do it within notepad, or should I use a specfic editor?

Thanks

OK, so I followed all the instructions and...it works

However, I still have a very low transfer rate (~1.3Mb/s) when I copy/paste from my NAS to UnRaid Server with my laptop (which is wireless in G mode)

I'll try tomorrow from my desktop which is wired (gigabit)...I'll let you know

But I'm already thinking about a bigger server with a cache disk and a parity disk.....Sounds great!!!

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Where can I find some clear and detailled info on how to program a scheduled shut down of Unraid Server?

I'll use the BIOS to start it every morning at 8:00 AM, but want to have the server shuting down automatically at 11:00PM

Thanks

Where can I find some clear and detailled info on how to program a scheduled shut down of Unraid Server?

I'll use the BIOS to start it every morning at 8:00 AM, but want to have the server shuting down automatically at 11:00PM

 

Get WeeboTech's powerdown script, and schedule it as cron job for 11PM.

 

Where can I find some clear and detailled info on how to program a scheduled shut down of Unraid Server?

I'll use the BIOS to start it every morning at 8:00 AM, but want to have the server shuting down automatically at 11:00PM

Thanks

easiest is in the wiki here: http://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ#How_can_I_get_my_unRAID_server_to_shut_down_at_the_same_time_every_day.3F

 

Install the powerdown script, then add one line to the "go" script. No need to mess with "cron"

 

Joe L.

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I did the install with the Unmenu package manager

Is there any line I should add in the go file other than the one you mentioned?

Something like that for example:

CTRLALTDEL=YES LOGSAVE=30 installpkg /boot/packages/powerdown-1.02-noarch-unRAID.tgz

Right now, my go file looks like this:

#!/bin/bash

# Start the Management Utility

/usr/local/sbin/emhttp &

/boot/unmenu/uu

echo "/sbin/powerdown" | at 23:00

 

I did the install with the Unmenu package manager

Is there any line I should add in the go file other than the one you mentioned?

Something like that for example:

CTRLALTDEL=YES LOGSAVE=30 installpkg /boot/packages/powerdown-1.02-noarch-unRAID.tgz

Right now, my go file looks like this:

#!/bin/bash

# Start the Management Utility

/usr/local/sbin/emhttp &

/boot/unmenu/uu

echo "/sbin/powerdown" | at 23:00

 

That will work.

 

Joe L.

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Good morning

 

I'm still playing around with my UnRaid server before buying more hardware (disks, controller, disk cages, etc...)

I treid to run it headless, but had some issue to get connected with the //tower:8080

Then I reconnected the monitor and keyboard to check the IP address

When I connect to the server directly by typping the IP address, I'm in right away. With the //tower:8080 cpmmand, it's much longuer and more of the times, it doesn't even work!!!

But with the IP address, I don't have UnMenu...only the regular menu

What should I check or do?

Set a static IP address?

 

I'm not sure of your network but in mine I have a router that does static DHCP based on the mac address.  That way my unRAID system always gets the same IP and the router handles NAT for it on the network so my other machines find it right away.

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Still have some issue to connect with //tower:8080 while it's OK with the //tower

I'm usinf Firefox

Anyone with an idea of what I should check?

Still have some issue to connect with //tower:8080 while it's OK with the //tower

I'm usinf Firefox

Anyone with an idea of what I should check?

is the unmenu "awk" process running?

 

If not, you'll get nothing.

 

Type

ps -ef |grep awk

what do you see?

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This is what I've got:

Tower login: root

Linux 2.6.32.9-unRAID.

root@Tower:~# ps -ef|grep awk

root      1651  1639  0 15:04 pts/0    00:00:00 grep awk

root@Tower:~#

 

Is this "normal"????

This is what I've got:

Tower login: root

Linux 2.6.32.9-unRAID.

root@Tower:~# ps -ef|grep awk

root      1651  1639  0 15:04 pts/0    00:00:00 grep awk

root@Tower:~#

 

Is this "normal"????

It indicates the awk program that is the unMENU server is NOT running and the only command with the word "awk" in it is the "grep" you used to filter the output of the "ps" command.

 

You just need to start the unmenu server. (Typically by typing ./uu or /boot/unmenu/uu)

 

It should have looked like this (you will have different process IDs, and different run-times, but the commands on the two lines printed would be the same):

root@Tower:~# ps -ef | grep awk

root    13478 23739  0 15:13 pts/1    00:00:00 grep awk

root    25493 11749  0 10:28 ?        00:00:05 awk -W re-interval -f ./unmenu.awk

 

 

Joe L.

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