jrd680 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Curious how much storage people have in their build's. Also curious about people's builds who have 100TB or more worth of space. Quote Link to comment
BillClinton Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Mine is still pretty small. 8.5TB across 6 data discs. Not much money to get large data disks. This is one of the main reasons for going for unRAID for mass storage, the ability to scrounge HDDs and add at will. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
burtjr Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 16TB using two 8TB Reds. With the streaming services available I find I don't buy movie's any more and my storage needs are minimal. I would imagine that I will never fill these 2 drives. Pictures and important files are the only new items being put on the server, which makes my true backups easy to manage. Quote Link to comment
tjb_altf4 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 12TB array (+parity) 250GB cache (fast) 2TB unassigned for temp download storage Array will be bumped up to 16TB soon, which will be limit for attached drives before add in card or mobo upgrade. Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 3 hours ago, burtjr said: 16TB using two 8TB Reds. With the streaming services available I find I don't buy movie's any more and my storage needs are minimal. I would imagine that I will never fill these 2 drives. Pictures and important files are the only new items being put on the server, which makes my true backups easy to manage. Fair point. I know thee's a plugin to show which movies are on your server and Netflix. Is there a plugin that just disables downloading movies and tv shows already on Netflix? Not sure but that's a thought. Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 hours ago, tjb_altf4 said: 12TB array (+parity) 250GB cache (fast) 2TB unassigned for temp download storage Array will be bumped up to 16TB soon, which will be limit for attached drives before add in card or mobo upgrade. Solid system! You've gotta start somewhere of course. Do you think you'll exceed above 16TB in the coming year? Quote Link to comment
Alex.vision Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 86TB array with dual parity. Using 20 4TB disks and 1 6TB disk. 1 2TB Cache drive. Though I will say that I just lost three drives due to a Norco backplane failure so I'm down 12TB. I just purchased 10 8TB drives to make a backup though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
S80_UK Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Interesting poll. I have 20TB, but another 20TB in the backup server. I responded as 11-20, but I can only vote once of course. Quote Link to comment
ashman70 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 107TB currently, 2x8TB parity drives, one 2TB cache drive. Quote Link to comment
tjb_altf4 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 hour ago, jrd680 said: Solid system! You've gotta start somewhere of course. Do you think you'll exceed above 16TB in the coming year? 16TB should serve me well for the next 12 months at least, cache pool expansion will probably be the next focus. Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Alex.vision said: 86TB array with dual parity. Using 20 4TB disks and 1 6TB disk. 1 2TB Cache drive. Though I will say that I just lost three drives due to a Norco backplane failure so I'm down 12TB. I just purchased 10 8TB drives to make a backup though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk @Alex.vision wow that's an impressive system. A bummer though that those disks crashed. So are the 10 8TB disks for a separate backup system or to throw into your Norco system? None the less your on the right track for sure. 38 minutes ago, S80_UK said: Interesting poll. I have 20TB, but another 20TB in the backup server. I responded as 11-20, but I can only vote once of course. @S80_UK Smart to have a backup server. Do you buy 2 drives at a time and have nearly identical systems? 33 minutes ago, ashman70 said: 107TB currently, 2x8TB parity drives, one 2TB cache drive. @ashman70 Solid, is your cache drive a 2TB SSD? 21 minutes ago, tjb_altf4 said: 16TB should serve me well for the next 12 months at least, cache pool expansion will probably be the next focus. Smart @tjb_altf4 sounds like a plan. Quote Link to comment
ashman70 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 No its not an SSD, I don't require the speed, its a normal 2TB hard drive. Quote Link to comment
Alex.vision Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jrd680 said: @Alex.vision wow that's an impressive system. A bummer though that those disks crashed. So are the 10 8TB disks for a separate backup system or to throw into your Norco system? None the less your on the right track for sure. The 10 new 8TB drives are part of a separate build. I've needed to build an actual backup server for a while, but it's hard to do when you want to back up 80ish TB's of data. The best deal I could find on HDD was for 10 external USB drives. So despite the headache of that it was worth $20-30 less per drive to go that route. I'll use something like Drive Pool to map them all together then use beyond compare to sync them with my array. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edit: can't quote proper portion on my phone Edit: there we go Edited March 13, 2017 by Alex.vision Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 54 minutes ago, ashman70 said: No its not an SSD, I don't require the speed, its a normal 2TB hard drive. Ah I see. Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 48 minutes ago, Alex.vision said: The 10 new 8TB drives are part of a separate build. I've needed to build an actual backup server for a while, but it's hard to do when you want to back up 80ish TB's of data. The best deal I could find on HDD was for 10 external USB drives. So despite the headache of that it was worth $20-30 less per drive to go that route. I'll use something like Drive Pool to map them all together then use beyond compare to sync them with my array. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edit: can't quote proper portion on my phone Edit: there we go Interesting, is your separate build another server? In looking online at Beyond Compare it says it's a Windows, Mac, and Linux program. How do you sync that with UnRaid? Quote Link to comment
Alex.vision Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 24 minutes ago, jrd680 said: Interesting, is your separate build another server? In looking online at Beyond Compare it says it's a Windows, Mac, and Linux program. How do you sync that with UnRaid? It will be a separate system. I will most likely plug in the 10 new drives periodically into my main desktop, use Drive Pool to mount all the drives as one large single disk, then use beyond compare (on my windows desktop) to sync the two systems. If the drives were not external I would just make another unRaid server, yet since they are, managing which drive has what data on it could become an issues. Right now I'm just trying copy all of my data to new drives, with having three disks down on my unRaid box it means I don't have any protection against other drive failures, so I'm backing it all up as fast as I can. Once that's finished I'm going to pull my three bad drives (all of which are the exact same models) plus one other disk of the same make. Im going to try and swap the control board to see if I can access the data, it could be that the bad back plane only smoked the control boards to the disks, not the disks themselves. If I can recover that data, then I will be super happy. Ill replace those three drives with new ones, reinitialize my array with the new disks, and bring it back online. At that point with my array back online and protected, I may void the warranty and pull my new 10 8TB drives out of their enclosures and put them in a new server box running unRaid, and run it as a backup that way. Super long and convoluted method perhaps, but its what I came up with as the best option I had. Right now I am still preclearing half of new drives @ 131 hours each, while also copying the first 8 array disk to the new external ones. I've been kicking myself this whole time, why didn't I move all of my hardware into this case, test it, THEN plug in the disks. My mistake of rushing through things my have cost me 12TB of files. Wont be making that mistake again. Quote Link to comment
BobPhoenix Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) I put 150TB because I have multiple unRAID arrays: 90TB - BluRay/DVD rips and Netflix/Amazon prime recordings and system backups - vm server (all headless though) 55TB - HD & SD recordings off cable analog/cable qam/satellite/ATSC. 72TB - ATSC/QAM 96TB - HD recordings off cable analog/cable qam/satellite/ATSC not setup again but was 48TB before disassembly will be again in summer - SD recordings off cable analog/satellite HD ATSC/QAM Edited March 13, 2017 by BobPhoenix Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 It will be a separate system. I will most likely plug in the 10 new drives periodically into my main desktop, use Drive Pool to mount all the drives as one large single disk, then use beyond compare (on my windows desktop) to sync the two systems. If the drives were not external I would just make another unRaid server, yet since they are, managing which drive has what data on it could become an issues. Right now I'm just trying copy all of my data to new drives, with having three disks down on my unRaid box it means I don't have any protection against other drive failures, so I'm backing it all up as fast as I can. Once that's finished I'm going to pull my three bad drives (all of which are the exact same models) plus one other disk of the same make. Im going to try and swap the control board to see if I can access the data, it could be that the bad back plane only smoked the control boards to the disks, not the disks themselves. If I can recover that data, then I will be super happy. Ill replace those three drives with new ones, reinitialize my array with the new disks, and bring it back online. At that point with my array back online and protected, I may void the warranty and pull my new 10 8TB drives out of their enclosures and put them in a new server box running unRaid, and run it as a backup that way. Super long and convoluted method perhaps, but its what I came up with as the best option I had. Right now I am still preclearing half of new drives @ 131 hours each, while also copying the first 8 array disk to the new external ones. I've been kicking myself this whole time, why didn't I move all of my hardware into this case, test it, THEN plug in the disks. My mistake of rushing through things my have cost me 12TB of files. Wont be making that mistake again. That's a lot of work though a worthy challenge. Best of luck! Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 I put 150TB because I have multiple unRAID arrays: 90TB - BluRay/DVD rips and Netflix/Amazon prime recordings and system backups - vm server (all headless though) 55TB - HD & SD recordings off cable analog/cable qam/satellite/ATSC. 72TB - ATSC/QAM 96TB - HD recordings off cable analog/cable qam/satellite/ATSC not setup again but was 48TB before disassembly will be again in summer - SD recordings off cable analog/satellite HD ATSC/QAM Do you hoard data like crazy or do you use those to prep, store, and upload to trackers/Usenet? Would it be feasible to combine all into one UnRaid server? Quote Link to comment
burtjr Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 21 hours ago, jrd680 said: Fair point. I know thee's a plugin to show which movies are on your server and Netflix. Is there a plugin that just disables downloading movies and tv shows already on Netflix? Not sure but that's a thought. I haven't seen one, but would be a great tool. I have Amazon and Netflix, but do not download any movies or shows. Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 hours ago, burtjr said: I haven't seen one, but would be a great tool. I have Amazon and Netflix, but do not download any movies or shows. wait you don't download movies or tv shows? Those people exist in the UnRaid world?? Quote Link to comment
BobPhoenix Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, jrd680 said: Do you hoard data like crazy or do you use those to prep, store, and upload to trackers/Usenet? Would it be feasible to combine all into one UnRaid server? I record everything from DirecTV STBs and HD-PVRs as well as recording from ATSC tuners. Most of the recordings have been done multiple times. So while I don't have a byte for byte backup of a single show I have multiple servers containing recordings of the same show that may have aired at the same time or at different times. For instance for one move I might have recordings of it from the same channel at the same time on multiple servers. Or I might have multiple recordings of the movie that were recorded at different times on the same server And combinations of those. I too do not and have not downloaded anything to watch on TV. I even have recordings from Amazon Prime and Netflix done with PlayOn. Not as good as I can get from the STB because the size is 720p and stereo rather than 1080i and 5.1 but I have them mostly for series and to avoid commercials on the commercial networks. Plus you don't get the popups in the recordings or reformatted to fit the screen recordings like you do with the premium channels like HBO and Stars for instance. And yes I am a digital hoarder. I don't watch shows once and delete them I record them and only delete if I don't like them. If I like them well enough I buy the BluRays and then delete the recordings. Edited March 15, 2017 by BobPhoenix Quote Link to comment
burtjr Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 19 hours ago, jrd680 said: wait you don't download movies or tv shows? Those people exist in the UnRaid world?? Lol, why yes they do, I think there are quite a few us here actually......My storage needs were for older DVD's and a couple of blue rays......I'm not current, typically a season behind, but I use Netflix and Amazon for my movie and TV needs. Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Lol, why yes they do, I think there are quite a few us here actually......My storage needs were for older DVD's and a couple of blue rays......I'm not current, typically a season behind, but I use Netflix and Amazon for my movie and TV needs.Ah I see. Sorry if I offended. Gotta remember people decide to just digitize their own DVD collections. Quote Link to comment
jrd680 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 I record everything from DirecTV STBs and HD-PVRs as well as recording from ATSC tuners. Most of the recordings have been done multiple times. So while I don't have a byte for byte backup of a single show I have multiple servers containing recordings of the same show that may have aired at the same time or at different times. For instance for one move I might have recordings of it from the same channel at the same time on multiple servers. Or I might have multiple recordings of the movie that were recorded at different times on the same server And combinations of those. I too do not and have not downloaded anything to watch on TV. I even have recordings from Amazon Prime and Netflix done with PlayOn. Not as good as I can get from the STB because the size is 720p and stereo rather than 1080i and 5.1 but I have them mostly for series and to avoid commercials on the commercial networks. Plus you don't get the popups in the recordings or reformatted to fit the screen recordings like you do with the premium channels like HBO and Stars for instance. And yes I am a digital hoarder. I don't watch shows once and delete them I record them and only delete if I don't like them. If I like them well enough I buy the BluRays and then delete the recordings.Fantastic! Not my cup of tea though it seems awesome. How do you name tv shows and movies? Quote Link to comment
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