Hi All,

 

Anyone remember the Intel 80386? OK, I'm old.

 

I started my working life as a data communications engineer with British Telecoms in 1972. I've been around computers since 1985 when I built my first Intel 80386 computer in one form or another. I've custom built more than 300 computers and installed several servers networks for small business, but none during the past 18 years. In 1988 I began to learn H/DHTML, then Visual Basic, JavaScript and later php.

 

I've recently looked at storage (NAS custom built), streaming (PLEX, Kodi, Nvidia Shield) and VM's (various) and have aquired 5x Seagate 2TB SAS 12GB/s 3.5" HDD's, Intel server board S2600CWTSR, 8x 4GB DDR4 and 2x Xeon E5-2650 v3. All are brand new and sealed except for the Xeon's.

 

I've read about and looked at many YouTube reviews of the various NAS software including FreeNas, but now I'm thinking my choice of server board is serious overkill for what I may eventually build, because I forgot I had an LSI SAS9340 8i flashed to SAS9300 8i P-13 IT (I have a lot of bits and seemingly fading memory lol), which won't work with my current mobo.

 

unRAID looks like software that would tax my brain and I think it's what I need to get my failing memory back to full working order.

 

SYDDOS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you have a question? The subject line seems to imply you want to use a 80386 (I remember several before that, including 8080). If that is what you have in mind I would say NO. Current versions of unRAID require 64bit CPU. And in general I would say trying to use anything more than a few years old is not going to give a good experience, and more than a decade old will probably not work at all.

Wecome to the unRAID forum!

4 hours ago, Fireball3 said:

Wecome to the unRAID forum!

 

Thanks very much.

4 hours ago, trurl said:

Did you have a question? The subject line seems to imply you want to use a 80386 (I remember several before that, including 8080). 

 

"80386 unRAID"  it's tongue-in-cheek, I did write that I've installed several servers and that I have a new Intel S2600CWTSR server board for a possible home build, though currently thinking about downgrading my equipment list for something more suitable for home build.

Yes

4 hours ago, SYDDOS said:

"80386 unRAID"  it's tongue-in-cheek, I did write that I've installed several servers and that I have a new Intel S2600CWTSR server board for a possible home build, though currently thinking about downgrading my equipment list for something more suitable for home build.

 

There are quite a few old-timers here.  Not me of course, I'm quite young, but at one time programmed Commodore Business Machines, the CBM series for small businesses, prior to IBM's first 8088-based lemon computer, and well before that advanced 80386.  And I'm sure it was in a past life I wrote punch card programs in Fortran and Cobol.  

 

As to your hardware, if you are going to run multiple VM's, especially full blown desktops, I'm not sure there is such a thing as overkill in hardware.  They are hungry beasts!

 

I think many problems on here, especially in terms of lackluster vm performance, is because people are trying to cram 10 lbs of "wants" in a 5 lb computer sack. 

 

Jut one of my servers runs multiple concurrent vm's while moving terabytes  of data across the network and simultaneously doing multiple transcodes with plex at the same time, and doesn't skip a beat. 

 

So, go big, have room for expansion, enjoy the benefits of having a 25lb sack with 10 lbs of "wants."

Edited March 27, 20179 yr by 1812

10 hours ago, RobJ said:

 

There are quite a few old-timers here.  Not me of course, I'm quite young, but at one time programmed Commodore Business Machines, the CBM series for small businesses, prior to IBM's first 8088-based lemon computer, and well before that advanced 80386.  And I'm sure it was in a past life I wrote punch card programs in Fortran and Cobol.  

 

As to your hardware, if you are going to run multiple VM's, especially full blown desktops, I'm not sure there is such a thing as overkill in hardware.  They are hungry beasts!

Hey RobJ,

 

Why I was thinking "overkill" is because by the time I build and run this system, I'll likely be the only one left in the house to use it and could I honestly justify the expense for a single user system.

 

10 hours ago, 1812 said:

 

I think many problems on here, especially in terms of lackluster vm performance, is because people are trying to cram 10 lbs of "wants" in a 5 lb computer sack. 

 

Jut one of my servers runs multiple concurrent vm's while moving terabytes  of data across the network and simultaneously doing multiple transcodes with plex at the same time, and doesn't skip a beat. 

 

So, go big, have room for expansion, enjoy the benefits of having a 25lb sack with 10 lbs of "wants."

 

Hey 1812,

 

I agree with you having read many post on this site, and maximum performance/functionality on minimum hardware will always stress any system.

 

I remember when pocket calculators came out... the ones that did percentaqge, square root and had an "M" button. Does that count?

1 hour ago, hernandito said:

I remember when pocket calculators came out... the ones that did percentaqge, square root and had an "M" button. Does that count?

That was the 2nd generation. I remember the "4-bangers", add subtract multiply divide and with a 3-digit price tag.

On 28/03/2017 at 7:26 AM, RobJ said:

 

There are quite a few old-timers here.  Not me of course, I'm quite young, but at one time programmed Commodore Business Machines, the CBM series for small businesses, prior to IBM's first 8088-based lemon computer, and well before that advanced 80386.  And I'm sure it was in a past life I wrote punch card programs in Fortran and Cobol.  

 

The first program I wrote was on a Micromation CP/M system.  Basic. I miss line numbers.  First job in IT I was an operator and had to deal with punch card readers.

 

By the time the 80386 came out IT was easy.

39 minutes ago, dalben said:

By the time the 80386 came out IT was easy.

I don't know. Back then it seemed like it was possible to understand the whole thing from the ground up. Now there are so many layers, both in the hardware and the software.

Hi Syddos, i am not exactly young as well but who's counting eh?. unRaid brought me full circle with Slackware which i used an odd 25 years ago or so to build my own router / firewall system hehe.

 

Anyway, there is affordable though not widely know server hardware, I recommended looking at the $118 Fujitsu D-3417-B motherboard. (https://sp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp/Publications/public/DS-D3417-B.pdf)

 

 

Edited April 10, 20179 yr by praaphorst