HP MicroServer Gen8 or something else?

[ebnerjoh]

Dear All,

 

I am running now since years an HP Microserver N40L on Gentoo as my Web- and App-Server.

 

Starting now digitalising my BluRay Discs I need more disk space. As well my Owncloud is using more and more space so I am looking for a new HomeServer and I think UnRaid should fit perfectly to me.

 

What do I want to run on the system:

*) OwnCloud or NextCloud

*) PiHole

*) Maybe Proxy (if possible at all)

*) Several small Websites on Apache, PHP, MySQL

*) Emby Server (mostly direct streams but estimated 1 to 2 trancoded streams in the next 2 to 3 years)

*) In future maybe TVHeadend

*) Maybe 1 Windows VM for testing.

 

The Server should run 24/7 so PowerConsumption is a topic. The Server will be located on my Cellar, RemoteManagement is needed. For the next 3 Years I think I will need not more then 8 to 10 TB HD-Space

 

I am really happy with my HP MicroServer, espacially with the RemoteManagement Console as well as the Quality (Running since ~5 Years 24/7) so first I was looking into the Gen8 Series:

 

Pro HP MicroServer:

*) Remote Management

*) Good Quality

*) Low Power Consumption

*) Cheap (the Celeron Version for 220 Euro)

 

Contra HP MicroServer:

*) only 5 SATA Drives possible (although maybe not more needed for me)

*) only 2 SATA with SATA 6GB/s, the rest is 3 GB/s (is this noticeable in UnRaid)

*) Poor Performace with Celeron compared to new Hardware

*) Expensive and still old performance when using XEON (700 Euro out of the box or 500 Euro if using a used processor and replace the Celeron)

 

Of course I have the knowledge to build my own Server, but I do not have the knowledge about the current architecture and best combination for my needs.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Best Regards,

Johannes

 

 

 

 

[HellDiverUK]

The Gen8 Microserver is a nightmare.  iLO is fussy, the fan profile is strange unless RAID is enabled, and the CPU is old and slow.

 

Look at the Gen9 ML10 instead, it's a much, much better machine.  Better power consumption, quieter, faster.  The only thing against it is no 'real' iLO - you have to use Intel's AMT, which works fine.

[ebnerjoh]

Hi,

 

You are talking about this Server?

 

HP ProLiant ML10 Gen9, Xeon E3-1225 v5

 

Currently available with 8GB RAM and 1TB HDD for less then 400 Euro... Very interesting...

[HellDiverUK]

That's the one. It's a good machine, very like the very popular Lenovo TS140 which is nearly impossible to get now.

 

The Dell T20 is another option, but case and therefore HDD cooling isn't great, and it only has 4 SATA ports on the board.

[ebnerjoh]

Another Question:

 

With Intel AMT I can get "Remote Console" and Power Controls?

I really do not want to use a Monitor+Keyboard for Installation and Maintenance.

 

EDIT: And what is the approximate PowerConsuption when running a basic UnRaid installation with ~3 Disks`? 

 

Br

Johannes

Edited May 29, 2017 by ebnerjoh

[HellDiverUK]

AMT is supposed to do remote control (via VNC I think), and does remote power control.  It worked OK the one time I tried it on my old Lenovo TS140.

 

Power consumption, I'd say you're looking approx 50W with the Microserver Gen8, probably about 20W with the ML10 Gen9.

[ebnerjoh]

Thanks, 

 

I think for Unraid the iLo is not that important. Either it is running or not...

 

Br,

Johannes

Edited May 29, 2017 by ebnerjoh

[HellDiverUK]

I see Lenovo have released the TS150.  G4400 or E3-1225v6 processors with DDR4 ECC.  

Edited May 31, 2017 by HellDiverUK

[ebnerjoh]

I have already ordered the HP :-)

 

Br,

Johannes