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Stuck on boot on upgrade.

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I'm a bit frustrated to be stuck so early on but I am finally getting around to trying to upgrade an older build I had run 4.7 on up to the current stable build. It gets to the blue  Unraid load screen and locks up. I can not tab to any of the other options so I can't run the memtest. I have reformatted and made the same USB thumb drive I used to run 4.7 off of bootable repeatedly on both a Mac and Windows work station. Everytime the utility had said the thumbdrive was bootable. I've gone through the BIOS settings and none of them seems to be changed or wrong from what I can tell. Short of going back to 4.7, any ideas?

 

What is the exact processor in the system?  Is it 64bit capable?

 

Try a different flash drive.

Double check that the Flash Drive will boot in another computer.  As soon as you see that it will boot that computer just shut it down immediately!  You will not damage the OS or data on that computer unless you do same thing stupid like assigning the drives to an array. 

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So its been a while (~7 years) since I set this up for an older version of unraid but I followed one of Raj's recommended budget builds way back when in 4.7. 
Processor is an AMD Athlon II x2 250 which I realize is not much for the modern virtual machines stuff going on is OS6 maybe.

I ran the grep command in the upgrade wiki when it was still booting in 4.7 and the response said "lm" several times, which I thought indicated it was 64 bit capable.

I was able to use the same thumb drive to boot up a Windows laptop into UnRaid so I think the thumbdrive is OK and obviously bootable.

Thanks so much for the responses. Is there other things to tryor other information I can provide?

 

 

 


 

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I saw a different but sort of similar thread indicating it might have something to do with memory but it freezes up as soon as the UnRaid blue screen comes up so I never get the option to tab down to select memtest. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

1 hour ago, seand said:

but it freezes up as soon as the UnRaid blue screen comes up

You've got other major problems.  First on the list is memory.  Since you can't select memtest, in the BIOS, disable any quick POST options.  Possibly post would find a problem.

 

Try the stick in a different computer.  unRaid won't touch any hard drive(s) in it, but if you're really paranoid, then pull the cables to the drives before hand.

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You mentioned the POST screen. This is what I got. Not sure what to look for.

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OK weird. So just randomly I tried the BIOS Flash option but when I escaped out of that it stayed on the UnRaid long enough for me to skip down to Memtest. Ran that for a while, it went through first test of all 4 memory chips with no errors, hit escape to reboot and appeared to boot UnRaid this time. Odd.

 

 

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Yeah so if I (in this order) go into the Flash bios utility, escape to exit, then when unraid tries to boot run memtest for a while, then escape to exit, it will eventually boot. Does not recognize my old  drive assignments unfortunately in the GUI.

 

 

First, make sure that your Flash Drive is plugged into a USB2 port (Black plastic insert) and not a USB3 port (Blue plastic insert).  

 

Then get to your BIOS setup and start looking for and at the various boot options.  You want to make sure that that flash drive is the first option.  (I can't tell where to look as every BIOS setup is different--- even from the same manufacturer!) 

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OK well it seems to boot into Unraid if I do the exact order mentioned above. Would love to know if there was a bios setting that could avoid the 3-step ritual but its up and running.

 

IF you can get to the GUI (which you seem to indicate), get a diagnostics file.   'Tools'  >>>  'Diagnostics'

I looked at the syslog and I didn't see anything unusual (to my somewhat untrained eye) but, of course, the system had booted up that time. 

 

One thing, you could try is to select/deselect any option for a slow/fast boot process in the BIOS setup.  (This option is available on many MB but it always is bit cryptic in its name.  You generally get to the BIOS setup by hitting the 'Del' key during the first part of startup procedure.)   This slows the boot process down by a few seconds which allows some extra time for everything to get properly initialized.

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