Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Unraid

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Wanted to check about removing disks...

Featured Replies

Hey guys, so I just wanted to 100% confirm, say I have 5TB of data total in the array, & a mashup of disks (for this example, 3x 2TB & 1x4TB), if I removed the 4TB disk (which does have at least 1TB of data on it) & then followed the removal instructions at

https://wiki.lime-technology.com/UnRAID_6_2/Storage_Management#Removing_disks

...this is doable, right? The data just redistributes itself to the other disks?

 

TL;DR: As long as you have enough total disk space for your data, after removing a disk, a parity-sync will redistribute the data without issue?

 

Thanks guys!

53 minutes ago, youngnapoleon said:

Hey guys, so I just wanted to 100% confirm, say I have 5TB of data total in the array, & a mashup of disks (for this example, 3x 2TB & 1x4TB), if I removed the 4TB disk (which does have at least 1TB of data on it) & then followed the removal instructions at

https://wiki.lime-technology.com/UnRAID_6_2/Storage_Management#Removing_disks

...this is doable, right? The data just redistributes itself to the other disks?

 

TL;DR: As long as you have enough total disk space for your data, after removing a disk, a parity-sync will redistribute the data without issue?

 

Thanks guys!

 

Absolutely not!

 

If you remove a disk from the array (do a new config and recompute parity excluding one of your disks), any data on the disk you removed will remain on the disk you removed. It will not be redistributed onto other array disks. After it is removed, you could mount it outside the array and copy the data back onto the array, but 1T will take a while. And until it is complete, the data will not be protected.

 

I think you might want to look into the unbalance plugin. That would redistribute the data from the disk while it remains in the array. Afterwards you could remove the disk and all of the data would remain on the array.

 

Keeping checking in before you do anything significant to confirm you understand the instructions and outcomes. It is easy to make mistakes, and we're happy to help.

  • Author
46 minutes ago, bjp999 said:

If you remove a disk from the array (do a new config and recompute parity excluding one of your disks), any data on the disk you removed will remain on the disk you removed. It will not be redistributed onto other array disks.

 

Thanks for the response!

 

What would my options be then? Obviously, if a disk with 1TB of data had to be removed due to damage etc, the whole point of the parity is to be able to reconstruct it on a replacement disk. Is there no way to redistribute the data around the already-present disks without having to physically install another?

  • Community Expert
2 hours ago, youngnapoleon said:

 

Thanks for the response!

 

What would my options be then? Obviously, if a disk with 1TB of data had to be removed due to damage etc, the whole point of the parity is to be able to reconstruct it on a replacement disk. Is there no way to redistribute the data around the already-present disks without having to physically install another?

If you remove a single disk from a parity protected array then the data is still there as unRAID will emulate the missing/damaged disk using the combination of parity plus the other data drives.    At this point you are no longer protected against data loss if another drive fails.    To get back to a protected state you add in a replacement disk and unRAID rebuilds the contents of the ‘emulated’ drive onto the replacement physical drive.  When that completes you are back into a protected state.

 

note that is different to removing a disk drive that you do not intend to replace.   If you want to reduce the number of drives then it is your responsibility to handle getting the data of the drive that is to be removed, there is no automated built-in capability in unRAID for this task although plugins such as unBALANCE can help.

  • Author

Okay, that makes sense. Can the data be moved to the remaining drives from the emulated state?

  • Community Expert
1 hour ago, youngnapoleon said:

Okay, that makes sense. Can the data be moved to the remaining drives from the emulated state?

Yes.   The 'emulated' disk will be treated just like the original physical disk as far as accessing its data is concerned.

  • Author

Great! Well, thanks a lot for your help, I think I've been set straight :)

Welcome to the forums!

 

You've already demonstrated a valuable skill that many new users lack - asking a question before doing something you don't fully understand. We are all influenced by our experiences and preconceptions, and what we read is colored by those, leading us to not fully grasp everything in the first read. Although tinkering and trying things is part and parcel to learning unRaid, operations that affect array integrity should be confirmed until you fully understand how parity works.

 

When a disk is being simulated (I.prefer that word, but same meaning as emulated), you are in a precarious position. Another disk dropping from the array will cause the simulation to end and your data to be potentially lost. And contrary to what you might think, drives drop for lots of reasons unrelated to actual drive failure. Putting humpty dumpty back together so you can simulate again can get very tricky if a cable is loose and another drive gets kicked. Loose or slightly skewed cables are incredibly common! I would advise that you be extremely careful if you need to enter the case that all connections are secure! Consider investing in drive cages (look at the CSE-M35T-1B).

 

Enjoy your array, and keep asking questions, and you'll avoid your own Waterloo!.:)

  • Author

Luckily I'm asking this one in advance - my unRAID is currently out of commission due to a near-instant failure of a drive during my trial run haha

I'll definitely check out that drive cage, thanks :)

  • Community Expert

If you go to Tools - Diagnostics and post the complete diagnostics zip we can help determine the cause of the failure. As already mentioned, often the drive is not to blame.

  • Author
On 19/07/2017 at 9:47 PM, trurl said:

If you go to Tools - Diagnostics and post the complete diagnostics zip we can help determine the cause of the failure. As already mentioned, often the drive is not to blame.

 

Sorry to take so long! It was something I actually already posted on here about:

https://forums.lime-technology.com/topic/58394-drives-randomly-missing-cant-rebuild/

Serial Number:    WD-WCC4E2ZZFYAH
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   133   133   140    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 1963
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       24

 

tbh I haven't really turned it on since & am yet to arrange for the RMA. Starting a new job on Monday & am gonna just buy a new 4TB to take its place before I send it away.

 

Direct link to diag if you're still interested :)

https://forums.lime-technology.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=28757

Edited by youngnapoleon
Added diag link

  • Community Expert
2 hours ago, youngnapoleon said:

 

Sorry to take so long! It was something I actually already posted on here about:

https://forums.lime-technology.com/topic/58394-drives-randomly-missing-cant-rebuild/


Serial Number:    WD-WCC4E2ZZFYAH
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   133   133   140    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 1963
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       24

 

tbh I haven't really turned it on since & am yet to arrange for the RMA. Starting a new job on Monday & am gonna just buy a new 4TB to take its place before I send it away.

 

Direct link to diag if you're still interested :)

https://forums.lime-technology.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=28757

Sorry I didn't remember. I read so many posts helping so many people.

 

I'm the one that told you to replace the drive.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.