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Noobie Misc and Plex Questions

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Hello,

I think I finally have my server setup after reading as much as I can find and watching YouTube videos. Thanks Spaceinvader One. 

Looks like the one glitch I had with my SAS card is solved.... changed to LSI.

With setup and copying files a couple questions have come up that I am struggling to find answers to (search)

My Trial period is almost up and I am going to be buying a license.

  1. I'm not 100% sure that I have it set up correctly. For example is there a means of backing up the configuration for future reset. I attached the diagnostic incase that helps for a quick sanity check on setup
  2. when I finished copying my TV folder I noticed that I cannot do a properties inquiry on network drive, (I wanted to compare the two locations) is this typical? I checked in User shares calculate and it returned a result 719G, I mapped the network drive and is shows 748G and the original folder is 669G... thoughts?
  3. I 'm going to keep copying unless told otherwise as I am going to have many days of network based copy/paste

 

Next up is Plex. I currently have a plex server on a windows 7 machine that is being replace by unraid. I do NOT have a Plex Pass yet.... soon. I have not found much information/tutorials of Plex installation and setup within unraid. 

  1. Are there tutorials that I have missed that I can follow (noob) and not bug the community?
  2. I see there are a couple apps/ available for this Linuxserver, Plex Inc and limetech. Under dockers I only see the template for limetech..... Not sure what to do here?
  3. If I only have the free version of Plex at the moment with applying plex pass be an issue in the the future?
  4. I see there is also limited information that transferring setup may or may not be possible. Have there been any new developments or means discovered on this?

 

Sorry its long and wordy

Thank you

 

tower-diagnostics-20171112-0941.zip

6 minutes ago, Waterboy77 said:

Under dockers I only see the template for limetech..... Not sure what to do here?

Forget the "Add Container Button" ever exists.  Forget the "Docker Repositories" section in the docker tab ever exists.  Forget the Plugins - Install Plugin section ever exists.

 

Install this:  https://forums.lime-technology.com/topic/38582-plug-in-community-applications/  (ok, you'll have to use the Plugins -Install Plugin section this one time :D )

 

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4 minutes ago, Squid said:

Forget the "Add Container Button" ever exists.  Forget the "Docker Repositories" section in the docker tab ever exists.  Forget the Plugins - Install Plugin section ever exists.

 

Install this:  https://forums.lime-technology.com/topic/38582-plug-in-community-applications/  (ok, you'll have to use the Plugins -Install Plugin section this one time :D )

 

Hey Squid thanks

I do have the communities app installed  that that is where I seen all the plex stuff when I searched..... what to do from here....

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7 minutes ago, Squid said:

Clicking the harddisk with the arrow on it will install.  (Press Help in the top right)

 

Wouldn't be a bad idea to watch Gridrunner's videos https://forums.lime-technology.com/topic/52998-guides-and-videos/  (specifically this https://forums.lime-technology.com/topic/54834-video-guideall-about-docker-in-unraid-docker-principles-and-setup/ , but the screens will look a little different)

 

Hi Squid,

yup I get the arrow on drive to install thing but am more concerned/curious on the point that there are three different ones to choose from and uncertain which to choose

Thank for the links, I have watched the video once before and actually had it cued for another viewing this morning :)

 

Major differences in the Plex containers

 

  • Limetech  -  Created primarily for marketing reasons.  Does not auto update - Must wait for LT to release an update for Plex whenever they deem fit.  Support Level: B-
  • Binhex - Does not autoupdate.  Must wait for Binhex to release an update to it whenever he seems fit.  Support Level: A+
  • LSIO - Autoupdates with every start / restart of the app.  Support Level A+
  • Plex Inc.  Based on LSIO's.  Autoupdates with every start / restart of the app.  Support Level: F (probably A across the board, but definitely an F for unRaid itself)

Many other under the hood differences between those 4, but unless you're an uber-geek it really doesn't matter what baseOS the container is using etc.

 

Go with either LSIO or Binhex and you'll be happy.

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4 minutes ago, Squid said:

Major differences in the Plex containers

 

  • Limetech  -  Created primarily for marketing reasons.  Does not auto update - Must wait for LT to release an update for Plex whenever they deem fit.  Support Level: B-
  • Binhex - Does not autoupdate.  Must wait for Binhex to release an update to it whenever he seems fit.  Support Level: A+
  • LSIO - Autoupdates with every start / restart of the app.  Support Level A+
  • Plex Inc.  Based on LSIO's.  Autoupdates with every start / restart of the app.  Support Level: F (probably A across the board, but definitely an F for unRaid itself)

Many other under the hood differences between those 4, but unless you're an uber-geek it really doesn't matter what baseOS the container is using etc.

 

Go with either LSIO or Binhex and you'll be happy.

Wicked thanks!!!

I'm an amatuer, wanna be, no where close to uber-geek :)

Any thoughts on the other items I posted questions on? 

All the other Plex questions, I don't have the definitive answers as I don't use it and generally only watch videos locally through OpenElec / Kodi

 

Not being able to take properties on the mapped drive.  I would guess a windows thing.  I only use a mapped drive for a share that's mounted via the Unassigned Devices plugin and it shows properties no problems, so not sure.

 

Size differences:  unRaid is showing the size in GB (1000 MB) whereas Windows displays in GiB (1024 MiB).  669GiB = 718GB.  The 748GB could be from formatting differences, overhead, etc.

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Thanks @Squid 

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Hello again,

I have installed the LSIO plex server.... it was a little glitchy and stalled on me but I believe it to be installed

Now I am trying to transfer over my setup from a windows machine to docker following https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201370363-Move-an-Install-to-Another-System

 

However I am running into a permissions error when trying to copy over to the cache drive....

I can get this far \\TOWER\appdata\plex\Library....and \\TOWER\cache\appdata\plex\Library.....  but then no permission and unsure which to use

 

Any assistance appreciated 

 

 

tower-diagnostics-20171118-1052.zip

I don't believe you should be copying to the cache drive directly, but to your share, unRAID will then copy the content to the cache drive itself and then the mover will move it from the cache drive to the share.

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2 minutes ago, ashman70 said:

I don't believe you should be copying to the cache drive directly, but to your share, unRAID will then copy the content to the cache drive itself and then the mover will move it from the cache drive to the share.

OK.... I'm not sure how to do that... but I have run into a bigger issue.....

I was trying to edit the plex settings in docker to add /media when it gave me an error and now Plex is gone.....

 

Not sure what to do next

If you go into docker and see an orphaned image, you'll have to delete it and add the plex docker again. I would suggest from now on when you setup a docker, you take a screen shot of the settings in case this happens again, I've had it happen to me several times and it saves a lot of time if you have the settings saved so you can just reference that to put them back.

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No orphaned image... it's totally gone.

The file structure within the apps and cache are still there 

I'll try and install again

Good tip on screen shots

 

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Ok I was able to get Plex Linuxserver re-installed..... no glitch on install this time so that's good

I have a bunch of shares that took some time in the start up install

Followed this video which helped..... HERE... older layout which as a little confusing but I got it

I also tested that it was viewable/accessible from my client and looks ok so far

 

Ok so back to previous issue..... really want to get my original setup into unraid plex (lots of custom sorting) 

@ashman70 can you explain the mover and getting the files from my original server (windows) to the unraid path

I wasn't able to copy directly via windows due to permissions 

NOTE.... total noob and its all new to me :( 

 

44 minutes ago, ashman70 said:

I don't believe you should be copying to the cache drive directly, but to your share, unRAID will then copy the content to the cache drive itself and then the mover will move it from the cache drive to the share.

I've not used Plex, but my guess would be that you'll need to go through the Plex Docker settings one page at a time and configure them to match what you've got on your Win machine. It's possible that Plex saves all its config in a file that you can copy from Win to unRAID, but I'm not certain about that, and even if it does, paths to files, etc. will be different because they're referencing different locations, or, at the least, the same locations, but from a different point of view.

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8 minutes ago, FreeMan said:

I've not used Plex, but my guess would be that you'll need to go through the Plex Docker settings one page at a time and configure them to match what you've got on your Win machine. It's possible that Plex saves all its config in a file that you can copy from Win to unRAID, but I'm not certain about that, and even if it does, paths to files, etc. will be different because they're referencing different locations, or, at the least, the same locations, but from a different point of view.

Hi FreeMan,

I think that the files are in "common" config files that should be transferable

The Plex topic HERE discusses replacing existing directories and re doing file locations.

It's more the metadata and sorting infor that I spent a lot of time on

 

Below Left is structure from windows machine.... Right is in unRaid

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As I said, I've never used Plex, so that was just a guess...

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Hey no problem thanks

 

I guess a more core question is.... how to be able to transfer files to the plex media server folder as I don't have permissions.

Looked everywhere but couldn't see where I could change the permissions 

 

Thanks

Under "Tools", you should have "Docker Safe New Permissions" that I think you can run at any time. Double check the docs before you run it, though. It's been ages since I've had any permissions issues, so I'm not sure.

1 hour ago, Waterboy77 said:

how to be able to transfer files to the plex media server folder as I don't have permissions

 

1 hour ago, FreeMan said:

Under "Tools", you should have "Docker Safe New Permissions"

Docker Safe New Permissions won't work as it will not allow you to change the permissions on appdata, hence the "Docker Safe"

 

You could run the Tools - New Permissions tool against the appdata share, or alternatively from the command line:

newperms /mnt/user/appdata/plex

which will only run the tool against plex's appdata

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1 hour ago, Squid said:

 

Docker Safe New Permissions won't work as it will not allow you to change the permissions on appdata, hence the "Docker Safe"

 

You could run the Tools - New Permissions tool against the appdata share, or alternatively from the command line:

 


newperms /mnt/user/appdata/plex

which will only run the tool against plex's appdata

Hi Squid, 

I'm trying to understand the Tools - New permissions

Does running the below configuration set the permissions for all that is "behind" appdata?

Which only happens to be plex at the moment.... 

 

Edit do I need to turn off the app and docker before doing this? 

 

Sorry....when saying run at command line I'm assuming that means with a monitor and keyboard connected to the server.... or is there another way (headless)?

 

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OH YA...... its worked.... I got all my watched history, sort configuration, etc.... 

Thanks @Squid I found where to go for command line entries and entered the command you posted.

That gave me the access to the folder structure I needed.

Then I copied ALL the files (except cache) from the tree I posted earlier onto the unraid appdata structure.

 

THANK YOU EVERYBODY!!!!

15 hours ago, Squid said:

Docker Safe New Permissions won't work as it will not allow you to change the permissions on appdata, hence the "Docker Safe"

 

Derp... :(

 

That's why I always recommend people wait for someone smarter than me to confirm my suggestions...

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