December 9, 20178 yr Hello guys and thanks in advance for anyone willing to share some custom advice. Backstory is that I had my server running on version 5 for a long time with no issues. about a week ago I starting noticing weird behavior out anything reading off of disk 5 and in the log there were lots of read errors on disk 5. I couldn't even stream a movie. as a test I deleted those files from disk 5 and excluded it in the share and it read fine off of the cache drive and then the next day off of another disk. So there's still a green ball on disk 5, but it's causing me problems and I do not trust it. I ordered a pair of 8TB WD red's and I ended up upgrading to unraid 6 so that my plus key would support more drives. I have them preclearing now, they should finish some time late tonight. My request for help is the order of operations for doing this upgrade and really what are my best options for the utilization of the new drives. I have 8 physical slots in my box for drives. I know one of the new 8TB drives will be the new Parity, the rest is kind of up in the air. The simplest would seem to be 1. replace parity drive and let it rebuild 2. replace disk 5 with the new 8tb data drive and let it rebuild 3. preclear the old parity drive, and replace one of the older 2TB drives with it or just add it in as a new data drive. I have some free space on some of these other drives though. Please see the screenshot below. It seems as if I could move everything from disk 5 to disk 4 and remove it from the array, then add in the new 8 as a new drive with the newer file system. would there be any benefit to that? I'm curious what some of you experienced guys would do in my situation? Thanks! Luke
December 9, 20178 yr Community Expert 6 minutes ago, VFRLuke said: The simplest would seem to be 1. replace parity drive and let it rebuild 2. replace disk 5 with the new 8tb data drive and let it rebuild If disk5 is really bad you may have problems replacing the parity drive, you could use the parity swap procedure, but without the diagnostics it's just guessing.
December 9, 20178 yr Author Not sure if this helps. This is snipped from a log file before I did the upgrade to v6 Dec 5 03:15:30 Tower kernel: ata8.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT Dec 5 03:15:30 Tower kernel: ata8.00: cmd 25/00:00:60:53:3d/00:04:ca:01:00/e0 tag 0 dma 524288 in Dec 5 03:15:30 Tower kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 5 03:15:30 Tower kernel: ata8.00: status: { DRDY } Dec 5 03:15:30 Tower kernel: ata8: hard resetting link Dec 5 03:15:31 Tower kernel: ata8: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 310) Dec 5 03:15:31 Tower kernel: ata8.00: configured for UDMA/100 Dec 5 03:15:31 Tower kernel: ata8.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0 Dec 5 03:15:31 Tower kernel: ata8: EH complete Dec 5 03:16:01 Tower kernel: ata8.00: limiting speed to UDMA/33:PIO4 Dec 5 03:16:01 Tower kernel: ata8.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen Dec 5 03:16:01 Tower kernel: ata8.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT Dec 5 03:16:01 Tower kernel: ata8.00: cmd 25/00:00:60:53:3d/00:04:ca:01:00/e0 tag 0 dma 524288 in Dec 5 03:16:01 Tower kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 5 03:16:01 Tower kernel: ata8.00: status: { DRDY } Dec 5 03:16:01 Tower kernel: ata8: hard resetting link Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: ata8: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 310) Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: ata8.00: configured for UDMA/33 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: ata8.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: Sense Key : 0xb [current] [descriptor] Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex): Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: 72 0b 00 00 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: 00 00 00 00 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: ASC=0x0 ASCQ=0x0 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] CDB: Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: cdb[0]=0x88: 88 00 00 00 00 01 ca 3d 53 60 00 00 04 00 00 00 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 7687983968 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: ata8: EH complete Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983904 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983912 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983920 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983928 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983936 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983944 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983952 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983960 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983968 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687983976 Dec 5 03:16:02 Tower kernel: md: disk5 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Tower kernel: ata8.00: cmd 25/00:00:60:67:3d/00:04:ca:01:00/e0 tag 0 dma 524288 in Dec 5 03:18:23 Tower kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 5 03:18:23 Tower kernel: ata8.00: status: { DRDY } Dec 5 03:18:23 Tower kernel: ata8: hard resetting link Dec 5 03:18:24 Tower kernel: ata8: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 310) Dec 5 03:18:24 Tower kernel: ata8.00: configured for UDMA/33 Dec 5 03:18:24 Tower kernel: ata8.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0 Dec 5 03:18:24 Tower kernel: ata8: EH complete Dec 5 03:18:54 Tower kernel: ata8.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen Dec 5 03:18:54 Tower kernel: ata8.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT Dec 5 03:18:54 Tower kernel: ata8.00: cmd 25/00:00:60:67:3d/00:04:ca:01:00/e0 tag 0 dma 524288 in Dec 5 03:18:54 Tower kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 5 03:18:54 Tower kernel: ata8.00: status: { DRDY } Dec 5 03:18:54 Tower kernel: ata8: hard resetting link Dec 5 03:18:55 Tower kernel: ata8: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 310) Dec 5 03:18:55 Tower kernel: ata8.00: configured for UDMA/33 Dec 5 03:18:55 Tower kernel: ata8.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0 Dec 5 03:18:55 Tower kernel: ata8: EH complete Dec 5 03:19:25 Tower kernel: ata8.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen Dec 5 03:19:25 Tower kernel: ata8.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT Dec 5 03:19:25 Tower kernel: ata8.00: cmd 25/00:00:60:67:3d/00:04:ca:01:00/e0 tag 0 dma 524288 in Dec 5 03:19:25 Tower kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 5 03:19:25 Tower kernel: ata8.00: status: { DRDY } Dec 5 03:19:25 Tower kernel: ata8: hard resetting link Dec 5 03:19:26 Tower kernel: ata8: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 310) Dec 5 03:19:26 Tower kernel: ata8.00: configured for UDMA/33 Dec 5 03:19:26 Tower kernel: ata8.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0 Dec 5 03:19:26 Tower kernel: ata8: EH complete Dec 5 03:19:56 Tower kernel: ata8.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen Dec 5 03:19:56 Tower kernel: ata8.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT Dec 5 03:19:56 Tower kernel: ata8.00: cmd 25/00:00:60:67:3d/00:04:ca:01:00/e0 tag 0 dma 524288 in Dec 5 03:19:56 Tower kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 5 03:19:56 Tower kernel: ata8.00: status: { DRDY } Dec 5 03:19:56 Tower kernel: ata8: hard resetting link Dec 5 03:19:57 Tower kernel: ata8: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 310) Dec 5 03:19:57 Tower kernel: ata8.00: configured for UDMA/33 Dec 5 03:19:57 Tower kernel: ata8.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0 Dec 5 03:19:57 Tower kernel: ata8: EH complete Dec 5 03:20:27 Tower kernel: ata8.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen Dec 5 03:20:27 Tower kernel: ata8.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT Dec 5 03:20:27 Tower kernel: ata8.00: cmd 25/00:00:60:67:3d/00:04:ca:01:00/e0 tag 0 dma 524288 in Dec 5 03:20:27 Tower kernel: res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) Dec 5 03:20:27 Tower kernel: ata8.00: status: { DRDY } Dec 5 03:20:27 Tower kernel: ata8: hard resetting link Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: ata8: SATA link up 6.0 Gbps (SStatus 133 SControl 310) Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: ata8.00: configured for UDMA/33 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: ata8.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: Sense Key : 0xb [current] [descriptor] Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex): Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: 72 0b 00 00 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: 00 00 00 00 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: ASC=0x0 ASCQ=0x0 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] CDB: Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: cdb[0]=0x88: 88 00 00 00 00 01 ca 3d 67 60 00 00 04 00 00 00 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 7687989088 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: ata8: EH complete Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989024 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989032 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989040 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989048 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989056 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989064 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989072 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989080 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989088 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989096 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687989104 Dec 5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: 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5 03:20:28 Tower kernel: md: disk5 read error, sector=7687990040 Dec 5 03:40:01 Tower logger: mover started Dec 5 03:40:01 Tower logger: skipping */ Dec 5 03:40:01 Tower logger: mover finished Dec 5 03:47:07 Tower sSMTP[15972]: Sent mail for root@localhost (221 2.0.0 dnvrco-cmomta02 cmsmtp closing connection) uid=0 username=root outbytes=1555 Dec 5 04:50:27 Tower sSMTP[16118]: Sent mail for root@localhost (221 2.0.0 dnvrco-cmomta01 cmsmtp closing connection) uid=0 username=root outbytes=1555 Dec 5 05:47:05 Tower sSMTP[16242]: Sent mail for root@localhost (221 2.0.0 dnvrco-cmomta03 cmsmtp closing connection) uid=0 username=root outbytes=1555 Dec 5 06:27:10 Tower kernel: mdcmd (58): nocheck Dec 5 06:27:25 Tower kernel: md: md_do_sync: got signal, exit... Dec 5 06:27:48 Tower kernel: md: recovery thread sync completion status: -4 Dec 5 07:27:18 Tower kernel: mdcmd (59): spindown 0 Dec 5 07:27:19 Tower kernel: mdcmd (60): spindown 5
December 9, 20178 yr Author and here is the smart report, but honestly I have no idea what to look for in the smart results. smartctl 6.5 2016-05-07 r4318 [x86_64-linux-4.9.30-unRAID] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Green Device Model: WDC WD40EZRX-00SPEB0 Serial Number: WD-WCC4E6SDTPT3 LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2b651e2b1 Firmware Version: 80.00A80 User Capacity: 4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated) SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Sat Dec 9 10:49:01 2017 EST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity was suspended by an interrupting command from host. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (51120) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 512) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x7035) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 192 192 051 Pre-fail Always - 126204 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 180 178 021 Pre-fail Always - 7958 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 508 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 069 069 000 Old_age Always - 23164 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 28 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 9 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age Always - 4160 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 129 117 000 Old_age Always - 23 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 182 182 000 Old_age Offline - 7344 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 22998 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
December 9, 20178 yr Community Expert SMART looks fine but you should at least run an extended SMART test.
December 9, 20178 yr Author 24 minutes ago, johnnie.black said: SMART looks fine but you should at least run an extended SMART test. ok, I have that running now. You know that disk is on an external SATA card where the rest of the drives are plugged directly into the motherboard. Maybe the drive is good and I have another hardware problem. Thanks for your help
December 9, 20178 yr Community Expert The syslog errors are more consistent with a cable/controller issue, and since SMART looks good it's the more likely scenario, also eSATA cables are notoriously pron to timeouts.
December 12, 20178 yr Author This is after the extended test. I assume this means this drive is ok? I can't replicate the issue now smartctl 6.5 2016-05-07 r4318 [x86_64-linux-4.9.30-unRAID] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Green Device Model: WDC WD40EZRX-00SPEB0 Serial Number: WD-WCC4E6SDTPT3 LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2b651e2b1 Firmware Version: 80.00A80 User Capacity: 4,000,787,030,016 bytes [4.00 TB] Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated) SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s) Local Time is: Tue Dec 12 06:26:40 2017 EST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x85) Offline data collection activity was aborted by an interrupting command from host. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (51120) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 512) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x7035) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 192 192 051 Pre-fail Always - 126204 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 183 178 021 Pre-fail Always - 7841 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 514 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 069 069 000 Old_age Always - 23232 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 29 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 9 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age Always - 4195 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 129 117 000 Old_age Always - 23 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 001 001 000 Old_age Offline - 91707 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 23228 - # 2 Extended offline Aborted by host 90% 23165 - # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 22998 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
December 12, 20178 yr Community Expert It's OK for now, but these are a very bad sign on WD drives: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 192 192 051 Pre-fail Always - 126204 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 001 001 000 Old_age Offline - 91707 They should be 0 for an healthy WD drive, it did pass the extend test so looks fine for now but likely has slow sectors that will fail in the near future.
December 12, 20178 yr Author 10 hours ago, johnnie.black said: It's OK for now, but these are a very bad sign on WD drives: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 192 192 051 Pre-fail Always - 126204 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 001 001 000 Old_age Offline - 91707 They should be 0 for an healthy WD drive, it did pass the extend test so looks fine for now but likely has slow sectors that will fail in the near future. Well, I've certainly suspected something going on with this particular disk, I don't mind getting it out of there, my current disk 1 also has a couple of reallocated sectors as well so that could be another one that gets replaced being that I have 2 8TB drives ready to go in. This leads me to my original post about what would be the best order of operations of doing this? I'm also thiking about doing some hardware upgrades also. My old gaming machine is collecting dust and I have a Asus p8p67pro board and an I5-2500k not being used. My current hardware is the old old recommended budget box with the semperon and 2g of memory. I don't plan on using any of the advanced features, but it seems like I have this stuff laying around, I could use it. If I was going to upgrade the hardware, should I just start from scratch with the 2 8tb hard drives on a new install and put the drives in one by one and copy the stuff to the new array. I think I saw a tutorial about how to install unassigned devices and copy over. Edited December 12, 20178 yr by VFRLuke
December 14, 20178 yr Author Hello guys, I wanted to bump this as I think I have my upgrade plan pretty well planned out in my mind. I just want someone to make sure I'm not overlooking anything. * I'm upgrading hardware, I have a cpu/mobo/memory that I will be using from my last gaming pc. * I'm planning on putting 2 precleared 8TB drives into my old gaming PC which will hold everything on my server. * I got a 30 day trial of another liscence and I have 2 boxes up now (no drives yet in the new box) Here's my plan 1. Get temporary install of unraid running on gaming machine with new hardware (done) 2. Install 2 8G hard drives in this machine 3. Transfer everything on my current server to that array (what's the best way to transfer a massive amount of data between 2 unraid machines?) 4. Take down original unraid machine and transfer the new motherboard into my current case and populate with drive I want to reuse 5. Reformat the additional drives with the newer file system and add into array I know that's pretty basic, but is there anything I should be careful of with the handling of the USB drives and or keys? Thanks in advance! Luke
December 15, 20178 yr Hi - Assuming one of the 8TB drives was going to be Parity, you may want to leave that off for now - the copy will go much faster without Parity.
December 16, 20178 yr Community Expert 23 minutes ago, VFRLuke said: OK, so I have both drives installed in the new temporary box and a trial key version of unraid up and running. I assigned one of the 8's as a data disk and did not assign the parity to speed up the copy. FYI with only 2 drives there's no parity speed penalty, it works as raid1. 24 minutes ago, VFRLuke said: I'm trying to create the same shares so I can copy from share to share, but everytime I try to create a share it immediately says that share has been deleted. Is it because of it being an unprotected array? Shares are just all the top folders, you just need to copy them from source to destination.
December 17, 20178 yr Author I was being stupid. I didn't have a filesystem on the new disk yet so it wouldn't let me create the shares. I was hoping I got my question deleted before I exposed my ignorance Thanks for your help. I am in the process of copying the files over now
December 18, 20178 yr Author OK, hopefully my last question. I'm almost finished copying stuff over to the new temporary build. Once that's finished I'm going to install all of the hardware in my existing case with all of the drives. My question is about the flash Drive. I will need to use the drive from the old server since it has the key on it I assume. Should I copy the entire contents of the "tower2" thumb drive over to the thumb drive for "tower 1"? Is there anything common mistakes that I need to look out for? I just want to make sure the part of it that remembers the data disk is in tact, the rest of it I can muddle through and play with settings if need be. Thanks in advance, Luke
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