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23 minutes ago, PhiPhi said:

 @trurl Copying as in duplicating the contents of 1 folder to another in the same server.

OK. Just wanted to make sure you weren't encountering #2 I mentioned in my post above:

On 2/20/2019 at 10:06 AM, trurl said:

The Linux command for Move and Rename are the same, mv. So when you try to move files from one user share to another, Linux will often simply rename the files so they have a different path on the same disk, in violation of any user share settings such as included disks. The workaround for this is to copy from source to destination, so that new files get created following the user share settings, then deleting from the source.

 

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1 hour ago, ibasaw said:

+1

 

krusader is good, but...native in the gui ui will be better ;)

The problem with a web based file manager is getting decent performance.    I have done some work on getting a couple of ones that look good from a functional point of view integrated into the Unraid GUI and although I have technically managed to get them working I have not managed to get acceptable performance on any array that is not relatively trivial in size.   Not sure what it is that causes this performance problem but it does seem to be a consistent pattern.

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I would preferably say that this is not a needed feature. From my experience in using web based file explorers for website management (cpanel, etc) the performance is not very good.

 

The best case would be to use FTP, SMB, etc as they will have much better performance over a web based solution. Not to mention the amount of work that will entail to make the web based version work.

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53 minutes ago, Conmyster said:

The best case would be to use FTP, SMB, etc as they will have much better performance over a web based solution. Not to mention the amount of work that will entail to make the web based version work.

For those who want a GUI based file manager that is hosted on Unraid then Dolphin/Krusader docker containers already provide a solution that performs better than a browser based version. 

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6 minutes ago, itimpi said:

For those who want a GUI based file manager that is hosted on Unraid then Docker/Krusader docker containers already provide a solution that performs better than a browser based version. 

Did not know about Krusader existed...

 

In which case it would be solved with the docker container...

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On 9/11/2019 at 4:57 PM, Conmyster said:

Did not know about Krusader existed...

 

In which case it would be solved with the docker container...

I so use Krusader and sometimes the performance is really good but inconsistent especially when moving or copying large amounts of data which can take many more hours than for example; copying the same data within a Windows server running on lesser hardware.

 

Strange when you think about it, Unraid as a storage/NAS OS but doesn't have a reliable fast and full featured file mover.  Sitting at your client unable to close the Krusader tab for 15 hours or close the client machine is far from a good solution. 

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15 hours ago, PhiPhi said:

I so use Krusader and sometimes the performance is really good but inconsistent especially when moving or copying large amounts of data which can take many more hours than for example; copying the same data within a Windows server running on lesser hardware.

 

Strange when you think about it, Unraid as a storage/NAS OS but doesn't have a reliable fast and full featured file mover.  Sitting at your client unable to close the Krusader tab for 15 hours or close the client machine is far from a good solution. 

I mean if you are thinking it to be equivalent to say a Dell storage array, then I can tell you that they don't have file moving facilities. Not to mention you can move/copy files with linux mv and cp respectively.

 

or there is midnight commander

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On 9/16/2019 at 2:07 AM, Conmyster said:

I mean if you are thinking it to be equivalent to say a Dell storage array, then I can tell you that they don't have file moving facilities. Not to mention you can move/copy files with linux mv and cp respectively.

 

or there is midnight commander

No, I was actually thinking of something that runs like a modern file explorer or at least like the old Windows Total Commander.  

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53 minutes ago, PhiPhi said:

I havNo, I was actually thinking of something that runs like a modern file explorer or at least like the old Windows Total Commander.  

That is where the Dolphin/Krusader dockerr can be used.

 

As I have mentioned earlier in this thread the browser based file managers that give that type of presenation do not seem to be capable of achieving acceptable performance (I have experimented with integrating a couple that are freely available into Unraid)

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As I have previously mentioned Dolphin & Krusader are clunky relics which are horrible to use.  If a browser based docker is impractical then a true remote desktop access file manager docker would be fine or even better as a native service.

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On 4/14/2018 at 9:34 PM, Kuusou said:

currently utilizing the Krusader docker

The thing is that Krusader does not respect disk Inclusion and disk Exclusion setup in shares settings.

 

I.e : in the event where (i) share1 is setup to include only disk1 and (ii) share2 is setup to include only disk2; then if you copy move a file from share1 (on disk1) to share2, Krusader will not move that file to disk2.

 

Obviously, one would expect that any such file operations performed within the Unraid WebUI do respect disk inclusions and exclusions.

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corrected: "move" instead of "copy"

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3 hours ago, Opawesome said:

I.e : in the event where (i) share1 is setup to include only disk1 and (ii) share2 is setup to include only disk2; then if you copy a file from share1 (on disk1) to share2, Krusader will not move that file to disk2.

Actually, copy works as expected, it is moving that contains the surprise. This is just a specific example of the more general problem I outlined earlier in this thread, see item 2 here:

 

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/61985-file-browser-in-webui/?do=findComment&comment=723474

 

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3 hours ago, trurl said:

Actually, copy works as expected, it is moving that contains the surprise. This is just a specific example of the more general problem I outlined earlier in this thread, see item 2 here:

 

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/61985-file-browser-in-webui/?do=findComment&comment=723474

 

I indeed did not see this comment but totally agree that it would be great to fix those issues.

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On 9/14/2019 at 11:48 PM, PhiPhi said:

Strange when you think about it, Unraid as a storage/NAS OS but doesn't have a reliable fast and full featured file mover.  Sitting at your client unable to close the Krusader tab for 15 hours or close the client machine is far from a good solution. 

Am I missing something? I routinely close my laptop while running large moves with Krusader and take my laptop to work... Reboot it a time or two and then reopen the VNC window for Krusader and see everything either finished or progressing nicely. Why do you think you need to leave it open?

 

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As for a general solution, I use Krusader (Granted it feels a little antiquated) and have a "Custom Tab" configured to open directly to it. I wish the Custom tab was a little more flexible, resizing and making better use of the screen itself. But that's more of a problem with the implementation of "Custom Tab" than Krusader.

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