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4 hours ago, NoobSpy said:

It was a figure of speech. I dont think 10 years on UnRaid will even be relevant.

You cant keep supporting people who use ancient equipment without growing stagnant and stale.

I would support a GoFundme and strech goals just to get some often requested things rolling.

By all means, go fund yourself.

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9 minutes ago, TheBeast said:

+1

On 9/15/2020 at 5:58 PM, NoobSpy said:

I think 10 years later we still be debating something basic like this.

The obvious question here is why do you need it?  What use case is there that say Windows Explorer cannot accomplish?

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10 hours ago, Squid said:

The obvious question here is why do you need it?  What use case is there that say Windows Explorer cannot accomplish?

- Deleting a folder with thousands of files (Windows Explorer needs ages)

- moving files between two folders that are in different shares (Windows Explorer would down- and upload them)

- creating a zip (ages)

- create, delete, move, etc in a folder that has no user access

- etc

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9 hours ago, Squid said:

What use case is there that say Windows Explorer cannot accomplish?

I'm pretty sure you know that: All copy operations with Windows Explorer will go thru LAN. The only exception are copy operations between identical disk shares. ALL copy operations with a file manager running on Unraid will stay local - at full Unraid speed.

 

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3 hours ago, hawihoney said:

I'm pretty sure you know that: All copy operations with Windows Explorer will go thru LAN. The only exception are copy operations between identical disk shares. ALL copy operations with a file manager running on Unraid will stay local - at full Unraid speed.

 

Actually any copy operation, even initiated over the network will not traverse the network when using smb3

 

I just wanted to see why people wanted this

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4 hours ago, Squid said:

I just wanted to see why people wanted this

Just my own experience - why I vote for a native Unraid file commander:

 

Because I don't want to use the console and start CP/MV/MC. Whenever I need to start the console I'm in alarm-mode. It's way beyond my knowledge. There are so many things that I can do wrong. Uaahhh - I don't want that. I'm using Unraid since 2008 - up until now I never found out when to use / at the end of a directory and when it's better to leave it out. And that's only one thing out of trillions.

 

Everything is dockerized here. 99,9% of my apps are working in the browser. The browser is my desktop. But whenever I need to copy something on the server I have to open the console (or the web console).

 

Don't know if my Windows 10 uses SMB v3 and I don't know if Unraid uses SMB v3, but all server-side file operations walk slowly thru LAN. My desktop is a WLAN notebook. Whenever I copy a file on the server it's send thru WLAN - what a waste of time and resources.

 

I tried Krusader: OMG, I ended up with a deleted directory. Til today I have no clue what I did wrong. Many times the copy popup windows simply disappeared. I didn't find out if the copy operation is still in progress or not. Had to look on Unraids Main page to see if there's progress. Bah, terrible.

 

I tried CloudCommander?: It's using more space than Unraid. 200MB last time I looked. It's faster to open the garage and use an USB-stick than starting that dockerized app. On top I never found out how to select something, mark something. Try it with a touch screen - nearly impossible.

 

Just my own experience, I don't want to blame anybody or a tool. I do see Unraid as a user with - say 1% - Linux knowledge. The Unraid GUI is - mostly - intuitive and beautiful. It deserves a file commander.

 

+1 for a buildin file commander.

 

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+1 for File explorer, Just got a pain when I move important photos from a share to another share. Plz include this feature.

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+1 for me. One of the first thing I was looking for when I bought unraid and I was migrating data from others hard drive. I’m used to the file browser of QNAP and I am really missing the option. The current workaround of using docker is really clunky for me.

Edited by SkinnyV

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+1, this feature would be awesome, I decided to choose unRAID over QNAP/Synology, but this feature is one of those that I miss the most.

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+1

I can understand that lots of people say that you can use the client to move, but in that case you are moving files over the network. Using krusader is better because you are moving files directly in the array, but why use a docker for such a basic feature? 

Having it on the unRaid guy would be good, but then you can only access it in the server itself.

 

Conclusion: would be great to have a file browser with normal copy/move/delete in the webUI. There are a lot of web components already made that help with the design, so why not use one

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Man would it be great to have something like the Synology DSM (File Station) in Unraid !

I'm personnaly using a Syno just to manage file on the unraid server 😞

global needs, downloads, uploads, move, edit ...

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On 11/11/2020 at 8:14 PM, Nexius2 said:

Man would it be great to have something like the Synology DSM (File Station) in Unraid !

I'm personnaly using a Syno just to manage file on the unraid server 😞

global needs, downloads, uploads, move, edit ...

This.

 

Synology could find usecases for this, because the usecases are there. What they are, is open to speculation, and not awefully relevant to the question whether we should have this feature in a future version, or not.

Also keep in mind that if you specifically DON'T want a file manager built graphically into the WebUI, power to you - you're free to ignore it, and it won't get in your way.

 

Everyone is different, and since unRAID is being used in a variety of scenarios, you can't say something always makes sense, or indeed never makes sense. I think this topic has proven that many people would like this built into the WebUI (and it could even be offered as an official plugin) so it makes sense to, at the very least, get this onto some sort of todo list for the authors, if not already.

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1 hour ago, thany said:

it won't get in your way.

Except that every feature added directly to the OS consumes RAM, whether you use it or not. Unraid isn't like pretty much any other OS that runs from a drive, everything is installed into fresh into RAM at boot time. That's why Unraid doesn't include drivers for everything normally supported in linux, because all that space in RAM would be wasted for 90% of users.

 

Every feature that is included in the stock base of Unraid must be carefully evaluated whether or not the increase in RAM required to store the files used is worth it. It's kind of a double whammy, the files consume space on the RAM drive, whether or not you use them. When you run it, it uses RAM as well, but as you said, that part is optional, you don't have to run it.

 

Features added using the docker container system DON'T take up RAM, as those reside on the regular storage drives, and only use RAM when run.

 

As Unraid has added more features, the RAM requirements have increased significantly. As a NAS only, 1GB of RAM was plenty. Currently, even if somebody only needs the NAS functionality, the bare minimum is 4GB, and even that is too tight for some operations. That's because all of the added features take up RAM, even though they aren't used.

 

As time goes on, and the normal amount of RAM in older systems that people want to repurpose as NAS devices increases, then adding features becomes less of an issue. Right now though, we still regularly see people trying to get Unraid to run on 2GB of RAM.

 

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58 minutes ago, Nexius2 said:

then a plugin would be great !

If a programmer was interested, I think that he would have released something by now.

Unless you are willing to do it. ;) 

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Just thought I would mention in case anybody is unaware. Midnight Commander (mc from the command line), a textGUI file manager, is built-in and isn't difficult to figure out, google it.

 

And of course, there are file manager docker apps.

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