DVD Decrypter equiv for slackware?

[queeg]

I'm currently using DVD Decrypter to rip DVDs into iso files containing either the entire DVD or sometimes just the main movie.  I run it with a script.

 

Is there anything that could be run natively on slackware that could do that?  Ultimately I'd like to be able to have a DVD player in the unRAID box and be able to have it rip the movie and copy it to the correct folder just like I do with DVD Decrypter.  Any hope here?

[WeeboTech]

What I'm planning to do is move my vmware ripping machine over to my unRAID server.

 

The drawbacks at this time.

 

1. unraid needs to support CDROMs

2. The amount of work it takes to get vmware up and running on unRAID.

 

Still, I believe this is feasible.

I was able to get this to work on VMware Server 1.x using a SCSI DVD-ROM on a linux 2.4 kernel.

 

Since a few hours ago, I am able to rip DVD's with ANYDVD and audio CD's with EAC on a VMware workstation XP instance and a USB DVD-RW drive on a 2.6 kernel. It took a few tries to get it to work. It's faster on my higher powered workstation since it's a dual core 2 Xeon 3ghz.

 

Ahh.. I can retire my LV 2.4Ghz dual Xeon machine now. It's been rock solid, but it's time to save some electricity.

[queeg]

Is the current unRAID kernal 2.6?  So a usb DVD player can be passed through to the virtual machine client...hmm.  I wouldn't have thought of that.

 

Did you create your virtual machine on the slackware box?  I've used vmware server 1 and 2 on Windows.  Never a non-gui linux.  What kind of interface? 

 

 

[WeeboTech]

I did it on vmware workstation.

 

Actually I built it initially on vmware server 1.x.

 

At that point it only worked with SCSI drives on the pass through.

 

I brought that machine over to my current XEON system running workstation 6.

I could not get the USB to do digital audio extraction correctly.

I installed a SCSI drive but it wreaked havoc on the system.

 

Two different adaptec driver sets (SAS and 2940U) along with ESB SATA 12GB memory a flash drive and other hardware. It just caused all sorts of driver issues.

 

So I upgraded the virtual hardware to WS 6 (Which removes server 1.x compatibility).

After that the USB DAE and DVD ripping worked correctly.

 

If you get vmware server 2 working with an XP instance and DVD ripping DAE extraction, it should work on linux if the base drivers are there.

 

You can do a gui style instance with vmware server 1. A tool called vmware-server-console.

I don't know how to do it with vmware server 2, but supposedly it's easier with a built in browser plugin.

 

The current unRAID kernel is 2.6.

[BRiT]

unRAID 4.5.4 uses the 2.6.32.9 Linux kernel.

 

Linux kernel 2.6.34. was just released.

 

There also also two other maintained branches of the Linux kernel, 2.6.32 and 2.6.33. The latest versions there are 2.6.32.13 and 2.6.33.4. [ http://kernel.org/ ]

 

Slackware 13.1 uses the 2.6.33.4 kernel.

[Ford Prefect]

Is there anything that could be run natively on slackware that could do that?  Ultimately I'd like to be able to have a DVD player in the unRAID box and be able to have it rip the movie and copy it to the correct folder just like I do with DVD Decrypter.  Any hope here?

 

...I'd recommend to have a look at Handbrake or OGMRip

Regarding Handbrake there is already a thread on how to apply it to an unRAID installation.

[queeg]

I did it on vmware workstation.

 

I might be going a little off topic here in my own thread but I'm also checking into installing the  ESXi hypervisor on the bare metal and then having unRAID in a vm.  I'd only do this if ESXi could present unRAID with direct enough access to the hard drives.  It might be more transparent than using VMware Server.

[WeeboTech]

I considered going that route too. I'm not sure unRAID has direct enough access to the SATA drives.

 

Also, I do not think you can access the CD-ROM at such a low level interface like vmware workstation or server.

 

So certain ripping or digital audio extraction will not work. I have not fully tested it out.

So someone with more esx experience will need to chime in.

[WeeboTech]

Is there anything that could be run natively on slackware that could do that?  Ultimately I'd like to be able to have a DVD player in the unRAID box and be able to have it rip the movie and copy it to the correct folder just like I do with DVD Decrypter.  Any hope here?

 

...I'd recommend to have a look at Handbrake or OGMRip

Regarding Handbrake there is already a thread on how to apply it to an unRAID installation.

 

Does handbrake or OMGrip work on protected DVD's?  That's probably the main reason i go with anydvd.  A new protection comes out and anydvd usually has it covered soon after.

[queeg]

You can do a gui style instance with vmware server 1. A tool called vmware-server-console.

I don't know how to do it with vmware server 2, but supposedly it's easier with a built in browser plugin.

 

I have VMware server 1 installed with multiple clients on one machine.  It's really nice.  I installed VMware Server 2 and experimented with it.  For my Win2k clients it's a pain because with Server 1 I can see at a glance which are running and which aren't.  With Server 2 you have to check individually.  Bah!

But for an HTPC with just a couple of clients version 2 might work.  I could telnet to unRAID and remote into the Win side.  It's just a lot of experimentation to see if all the neccessary features for each work.  

 

I'm going to do a little more research on ESXi to see if it has any possibility.  If not it'll have to be the VMware Server 2 route or just installing stuff in slackware.  Personally, I like the unRAID distro but installing the more complicated stuff on it is both painful and alarms go off in my head with each new thing I install.  I mean the more junk that gets laid on the unRAID distro, the harder it will be troubleshoot any problems and the more possibility of not being able to roll back to a known state in case it starts hanging or not booting.  The joy of VM's is that each one can be very specific and more simple to manage/upgrade/replace than a single monolithic OS running all applications.

[WeeboTech]

There is also virtualbox, but I've not seen anything yet if it works with dvd/audio cd ripping.

 

One of the issues I had with ESX was... there is no way to access the VM's console locally.

Everything has to be done remotely. (at least this is where I stumbled and stopped).

 

With vmware workstation or server 1.x,  you would have an X11 session running, so you can access the vm's console locally or with vmware-server-console to another X11 session.

[purko]

There is also virtualbox, but I've not seen anything yet if it works with dvd/audio cd ripping.

In VB, DVD ripping works just fine (ANYDVD in XP guest). The rip has the same md5 as one made in real XP.

Digital Audio CD ripping doesn't work in VB (yet).

 

[Ford Prefect]

Is there anything that could be run natively on slackware that could do that?  Ultimately I'd like to be able to have a DVD player in the unRAID box and be able to have it rip the movie and copy it to the correct folder just like I do with DVD Decrypter.  Any hope here?

 

...I'd recommend to have a look at Handbrake or OGMRip

Regarding Handbrake there is already a thread on how to apply it to an unRAID installation.

 

Does handbrake or OMGrip work on protected DVD's?  That's probably the main reason i go with anydvd.  A new protection comes out and anydvd usually has it covered soon after.

 

Yes it does (not sure if libs are shipped with the app or if you have to fetch and install them seperately)...might not be legal in your part of world anyway 

IMHO the features are up to at least the same extend as DVD Decrypter (which is not maintained any longer and will not rip the newest titles).

[Ford Prefect]

There is also virtualbox, but I've not seen anything yet if it works with dvd/audio cd ripping.

 

One of the issues I had with ESX was... there is no way to access the VM's console locally.

Everything has to be done remotely. (at least this is where I stumbled and stopped).

 

With vmware workstation or server 1.x,  you would have an X11 session running, so you can access the vm's console locally or with vmware-server-console to another X11 session.

 

Virtualbox is quite fine to that respect....I had good results with DVDFab under virtualbox.

You can activate a pass-trough option for the drive.

DVD Decrypter works as well.

Choosing the right layer API for the drive (inside Win...is it called ASPI or NTnative or something?)

seems to be of importance.

 

What I like with virtualbox is, that it can run in headless mode too.

And it offers 3D Support with their guest-extensions installed (even XBMC will work inside a guest just fine).

Also USB support is superb, I'd say....a couple of days ago I had to do some team lesson on an external location

...and guess what?...the &§$"$§ LCD projector provided at the location came with USB only 

...so I fired up my VBox-ed WinXP and connected it to my linux host laptop...I was able to install the

WinXP drivers (the projector mimicked a graphics card and a CDROM with drivers), configured it

and everything was up and running in 5mins.

...and we had some fun after hours, because the projector was a fullHD and I carried some decentral backups