gr021857 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Hi all, I've recently started using Unraid (6.5) and bought the licence as everything is working well so far. Now I'm obviously got the bug and want to upgrade/merge my setups to expand into the extended features which are limited by my current setup. Currently running unraid on a Sempron 3850 APU with 6gb DDR3. It runs well but I'm wanting to move up to a new setup: Ryzen 2600 https://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-ryzen-5-2600-am4-zenplus-6-core-12-thread-34ghz-39ghz-turbo-19mb-cache-65w-cpu-retail-plus-wrait Using the https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming-amd-x470-s-am4-ddr4-sata3-dual-m2-2-way-sli-crossfire-gbe-usb31-gen I plan to merge with my existing components from a G5460 gaming build I made last year (will re-use it eventually when the ram prices come down!). I want to take out it's Nvidia GTX 1060 6gb and 16gb DDR4 Ballistix Sport LT 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin Memory - BLS2C8G4D240FSB (Grey). However I'm wanting to do this to remote into the VM display and play the games that way. I can either use Steam game streaming to an i7 Dell XPS13, Nvidia streaming to an Nvidia Shield TV or if neither will work sufficiently I also have a wireless HDMI sender but that would limit me to 1080p. I've read conflicting things about needing a second GPU to be able to pass through the 1060? Can I just pass through the 1060 using the vbios if I run unraid entirely via the web gui or do I definitely need a second gpu (have a Nvidia gt210 I could use for now) Is it inadvisable to try this build given the only recent release of the Ryzen 2 hardware or with it being a relatively incremental increase on Ryzen 1, should I expect the current Ryzen issues I've read about here? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment
HellDiverUK Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 There's not real issues with Ryzen now - either turn off C-states in BIOS, or add the zenstates command in your go file. Stable as a stable thing if you do either of those. My only issue with Ryzen is a high idle power consumption, or at least it was on my Strix X370-F board. Probably better on a B350 or whatever the cheaper boards have. Quote Link to comment
gr021857 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Thanks helldiver, I've bit the bullet and ordered the parts for delivery tomorrow then. Will provide an update of how I get on once it's all up and running, so others planning it will have something to go on. Quote Link to comment
david279 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I plan on replacing my r5 1600x with a 2700x sometime next month. Let us know how it goes for you. Quote Link to comment
gr021857 Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Ok, so setup and working fine so far for simple unraid usage with dockers sabz, sickrage, kodi headless, mariadb, delugevpn and OpenVPN all running for over an hour. I haven't tried plex yet though. For information so far I haven't changed any C states options in the bios (default is auto) and I've note enabled zenstates (which is being advised by Fix Common Problems plugin. The only issue I've had so far is I can't get the VM to boot if I passthrough the 1060 with a vbios (edited with hex editor as per the spaceinvaderone videos). I'll add a second GPU tomorrow and try again. It is a Windows 10 VM which is working via VNC on 3 cores as 6 threads. I'll leave it going overnight with a few things open (calculator, explorer, edge with a few tabs etc) to see if it crashes. Then download prime tomorrow night and see if hammering it will cause any issues. So far though it is looking good! 1 Quote Link to comment
gr021857 Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 I can't find that spare graphics card so currently stuck on VNC until I can order a 1030. @david279 The good news is, I've tested the VM with Prime 95 for a little while and it played nice with 3 cores and 6 threads + 8gb ram for the VM. See attached screenshots. Glad I bit the bullet and upgraded, it is rapid now compared to the now ancient Sempron I'd been using. I have no real use case for giving the VM more cores but if anyone needs me to test anything with my setup, let me know and I'll try my best to run it if I can. 1 Quote Link to comment
david279 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Can you run "watch grep \"cpu MHz\" /proc/cpuinfo" in the terminal to see if the processor is turbo-ing correctly? My 1600x never hits it's xfr so I just oc'ed it. Wondering if the 2000 series fixed it. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
gr021857 Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Think I've done this right for you: Without the VM running at all Every 2.0s: grep "cpu MHz" /proc/cpuinfo WHS: Fri Apr 27 00:52:10 2018 cpu MHz : 3516.097 cpu MHz : 2508.884cpu MHz : 1447.773 cpu MHz : 1468.260 cpu MHz : 1450.296 cpu MHz : 1466.493cpu MHz : 1666.737 cpu MHz : 1494.144 cpu MHz : 1568.931 cpu MHz : 1519.146cpu MHz : 2162.905 cpu MHz : 2554.976 With VM running prime Every 2.0s: grep "cpu MHz" /proc/cpuinfo WHS: Fri Apr 27 00:54:09 2018 cpu MHz : 1968.570 cpu MHz : 1967.582cpu MHz : 3784.486 cpu MHz : 3784.531 cpu MHz : 1825.635 cpu MHz : 2003.018cpu MHz : 3721.696 cpu MHz : 3721.190 cpu MHz : 3310.675 cpu MHz : 1988.240cpu MHz : 3754.720 cpu MHz : 3754.790 VM cores/threads in bold. I only have the 2600 which is base frequency 3400 and turbo 3900 but it appears to be hitting that, I couldn't get a copy of it as it is bouncing around the top range but it is hitting 3800+ at times. Managed to get the 1060 passed through but not had chance to test it with any games or anything yet. Just glad I've got it working now, might try dumping the bios and moving to the one card over the weekend. Quote Link to comment
david279 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Ok looking goodSent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
gr021857 Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Thought I'd come back and report that after initial setup and tweaking reboots for moving old drives in and out of the array. I have had the system running flawlessly for 25 days without zen states or any c state changes at all Quote Link to comment
david279 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 NiceSent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
un4given Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 7:59 PM, gr021857 said: Thought I'd come back and report that after initial setup and tweaking reboots for moving old drives in and out of the array. I have had the system running flawlessly for 25 days without zen states or any c state changes at all hi, do you have any data towards idle and load consumption? would be nice to know. my ryzen 2600 system, GTX 1070ti with drives spun down consumes 90w. think its a bit too high. 60-70 would be ok. i think things will change when i set up a vm and let it run. Quote Link to comment
ksignorini Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Did you happen to get the VBIOS passed through eventually? Quote Link to comment
gr021857 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 Hey, unfortunately not. I ended up buying a low profile GT 1030 from amazon warehouse on black friday. Set that up as the primary gpu in the bios and then as soon as I did that the 1060 worked straight away no problem. Quote Link to comment
gr021857 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 On 9/18/2018 at 10:49 AM, un4given said: hi, do you have any data towards idle and load consumption? would be nice to know. my ryzen 2600 system, GTX 1070ti with drives spun down consumes 90w. think its a bit too high. 60-70 would be ok. i think things will change when i set up a vm and let it run. Sorry I didn't see this question until now. I don't have any usage figures, would need a Watt measurer and I don't have one. Quote Link to comment
ksignorini Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, gr021857 said: Hey, unfortunately not. I ended up buying a low profile GT 1030 from amazon warehouse on black friday. Set that up as the primary gpu in the bios and then as soon as I did that the 1060 worked straight away no problem. Did you have that VBIOS working with a previous CPU/board but it just wouldn't work with this one? Or was this your first time with that GPU and VBIOS? Quote Link to comment
gr021857 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, ksignorini said: Did you have that VBIOS working with a previous CPU/board but it just wouldn't work with this one? Or was this your first time with that GPU and VBIOS? I had it running on a motherboard with integrated graphics. Moved to the new motherboard where it was the only gpu and it didn't work. Followed all the guides and nothing. Used an AMD card in another slot and it then worked straight away again. So I gave up and got the cheap 1030 when it was on offer. Quote Link to comment
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