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What I really wanted to see was the Compute All of your User Shares. Why are you even sharing disks?

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2 hours ago, JQNE said:

I just removed binhex-krusader and reinstalled it.

Were you in previous apps by chance?  That would install the same template as before.  You need to do it from the category list or via a search for krusader

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2 hours ago, trurl said:

What I really wanted to see was the Compute All of your User Shares. Why are you even sharing disks?

Why not? Something wrong?

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1 minute ago, Squid said:

Were you in previous apps by chance?  That would install the same template as before.  You need to do it from the category list or via a search for krusader

I have always used only search option to locate krusader.

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2 minutes ago, JQNE said:

I have always used only search option to locate krusader.

Then there were probably 2 results, and assuming that you're running the latest CA with the new GUI, then you're the first to find a minor oversite - on the main display's it isn't showing that one of those 2 results is "private" (ie: the install from dockerHub).  *Alternatively, and I'd have to test is that it only displayed one, but because of the identical naming and repository it displayed the private one.  In which case you've found a bug in CA :( 

 

Go to statistics, click on Private Templates and hit the red-x on anything you're not actually using (esp. krusader) and try the whole thing again.

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1 hour ago, JQNE said:

Why not? Something wrong?

It isn't necessary to share disks. If for some reason you want to control which disks get used you can do this with User Share settings.

 

Sharing disks has a number of ways it can get you into trouble, including data loss.

 

I always recommend just working with User Shares, at least until you get a good idea of how User Shares actually work "under the hood" so you will know how to avoid the problems if you ever decide you do need to access the disks directly for some reason.

 

I never put the disks on the network and I know how this stuff all works. I always just work with the disks directly on the server if the need arises.

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36 minutes ago, trurl said:

It isn't necessary to share disks. If for some reason you want to control which disks get used you can do this with User Share settings.

 

Sharing disks has a number of ways it can get you into trouble, including data loss.

 

I always recommend just working with User Shares, at least until you get a good idea of how User Shares actually work "under the hood" so you will know how to avoid the problems if you ever decide you do need to access the disks directly for some reason.

 

I never put the disks on the network and I know how this stuff all works. I always just work with the disks directly on the server if the need arises.

Thanks for info! ✌️ I once tested is there any usage difference when using share or straight harddisk on win vm. So I left disk share on. I also have had no luck to get krusader work, and I have been moving stuf inside server with root share acces on Osx Finder... And also tested MC.. But still had little slow speeds. I have tested various versions of krusader, but still no luck with gui.

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10 minutes ago, JQNE said:

Thanks for info! ✌️ I once tested is there any usage difference when using share or straight harddisk on win vm. So I left disk share on. I also have had no luck to get krusader work, and I have been moving stuf inside server with root share acces on Osx Finder... And also tested MC.. But still had little slow speeds. I have tested various versions of krusader, but still no luck with gui.

Writes to the parity array will be slower than the normal write speed of the disk being written, because parity must be updated at the same time. This actually involves reading the data and parity disk, calculating the parity change the new data will cause, and writing the data and parity disk. This is how it works whether you are working directly with a data disk, or whether you are working with a user share.

 

But you actually bypass some features of Unraid if you work directly with the disks.

 

User Shares can span disks. This allows you to have a folder with some of its files on one disk, and other files on another disk.

 

And User Shares can be cached. This allows new files to be written to cache and later moved to the parity array. The speed of writing to cache isn't impacted by the parity update, and people often use SSDs as cache so caching user shares can be a way to write faster.

 

Is there something specific you want to do with Krusader? It isn't going to help with the speed problems since they are just the way parity works. I always just use Midnight Commander since it is built-in and I have been using it in Unraid since long before dockers were introduced.

 

There is another method of doing parity writes that is somewhat faster. This thread explains the 2 different methods of writing parity:

 

 

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18 hours ago, trurl said:

Writes to the parity array will be slower than the normal write speed of the disk being written, because parity must be updated at the same time. This actually involves reading the data and parity disk, calculating the parity change the new data will cause, and writing the data and parity disk. This is how it works whether you are working directly with a data disk, or whether you are working with a user share.

 

But you actually bypass some features of Unraid if you work directly with the disks.

 

User Shares can span disks. This allows you to have a folder with some of its files on one disk, and other files on another disk.

 

And User Shares can be cached. This allows new files to be written to cache and later moved to the parity array. The speed of writing to cache isn't impacted by the parity update, and people often use SSDs as cache so caching user shares can be a way to write faster.

 

Is there something specific you want to do with Krusader? It isn't going to help with the speed problems since they are just the way parity works. I always just use Midnight Commander since it is built-in and I have been using it in Unraid since long before dockers were introduced.

 

There is another method of doing parity writes that is somewhat faster. This thread explains the 2 different methods of writing parity:

 

 

Nothing really different than MC can do. I thought krusader would be easier and faster to use. But MC is looking verta string for me because it works.

 

I have 3 drives, and only one of them is filling up. I have high Water choosed across all shares.  

 

I been thinkin to use turbo write but it has its own drawbacks ✌️

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19 minutes ago, JQNE said:

I have 3 drives, and only one of them is filling up. I have high Water choosed across all shares.

There are 3 settings for a User Share that Unraid considers when deciding which disk to write: Split Level, Minimum Free, and Allocation Method.

 

Split Level has the highest precedence. When choosing a disk to write, if Split Level says the file should go on the same disk other files are already on then that is the disk that will be chosen.

 

If a disk has less than Minimum Free remaining, then Unraid will choose a different disk (except Split Level has precedence).

 

High-water Allocation is a good compromise between using all (included) disks without constantly switching disks simply because one disk temporarily has more free space than another. It is a little complicated to explain but fortunately there are already explanations in the wiki:

 

https://wiki.unraid.net/Un-Official_UnRAID_Manual#High_Water

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hi guys can someone please tell me how do i clean the history list and if is there a way to select the default folder when open Krusader, thanks in advanced

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